I briefly touched on it....had he hit the open Woods underneath....the fumble never happens....so, he did miss an open target there...again...focusing in on Higbee
I mentioned it before, but if he throws that pass to Woods, Woods gets absolutely crushed. There's a Linebacker sitting there just wishing Goff makes that throw. Part of a QB's job is not getting their receivers killed, especially in preseason. Superbowl or playofffs? Yeah, make that throw. Preseason? Nah, not worth it.
Finally, truth at last....no need for the "probably"...he's on the goalline...passes can be made in .5 of a second down there...
Yeah, there's nobody open. There was no play there other than Brown who was open right as Goff got hit, which is where Goff is probably throwing the ball to (him or Higbee, it's hard to say).. Before the sack he should have thrown it away. With how late Brown is releasing, either the play hadn't developed (meaning the tackle is more at fault, he needs to hold Bosa off better) or Brown was late to release and start his route. Meaning we don't know if Goff actually held on too long or not.. For sake of argument I'm just going to say he needs to get rid of the ball faster. That wasn't for lack of awareness or inability to see the field, that was him not having anyone open and knowing that someone was about to come open.
Still Bosa made a great play, that's going to happen. Sometimes the defense is going to win. It doesn't mean much in terms of Goff's development either way in my opinion.
Yeah....or he was processing what he was seeing too slowly...
See, this right here is unnecessarily adding something that you don't know about and something that looks to be very much false when you compare it to the rest of what he's done thus far. The second Brown becomes open or Higbee potentially becomes open (without the all-22 we can't tell for sure) Goff has seen them and is getting ready to throw. Doesn't look like slow processing to me, especially since his other reads were taken away. Since neither of us are going to budge on this issue, I'm not going to comment further on it.
He looks fine...thats cool....like I said...look around...at 2nd year players...oh, he's still a rookie, look around at the rookies...see if you can tell a difference.
Yeah I see a difference in Goff from year 1 to year 2. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter what other second year players or rookies are doing, it matters what Goff is doing. There's no point in comparing him to other quarterbacks, the season hasn't even started. We can evaluate Goff compared to the other QB's in the league when the season is over. Right now I'm comparing Goff to Goff. And Goff 2.0 looks a lot better.
Big step.....that comes week one...And....IN MY OPINION....he looked a LOT like last year in that game...better players around him....better plays....we're moving the ball....then...Goff happened...last years Goff....not just the fumble...his reaction to the fumble...the interception. Looked like 2016...against a vanilla scheme...in the dress rehearsal game...Look around...tell me one other starting QB that's doing that...oh yeah, tell me if they're any good too?
I dunno, that Browns QB you're so hard over looked like that, and you seem to think he's good.
I don't agree with your assessment, it's clear that others don't as well. I have attempted to offer up specific examples and plays where you can see him display the traits you claim he lacks. You have been stuck on two plays to claim that he doesn't, and even then you only take the negative from the plays.... And again, it's preseason. Don't take too much stock in preseason. Shit, look how terrible the Colts were in the preseason with Manning.. Or hell look at Bradford's rookie year, game 3 against the Patriots. They kept Brady well into the 4th quarter so he could cut into the score that Bradford built before being pulled at the half.... We finished 7-9, they finished 14-2 and Brady was OPOY and MVP. Preseason doesn't mean shit.
Yeah...we did see a change....Goff got worse the more he played....so did the team around him...
I think the team gave up on Fisher last year. Goff often put us into positions to win and the defense folded, the team quit. Defense gave up a TD late against Miami, and let the Saints drop 49 on them. When your rookie QB puts up 3 TD's in the first half of their second game on the road, you can't have your defense giving up 49 points. Fisher had lost the team at that point, I'm not going to blame Goff for that, that was a total team effort, and a team failure.
I'm good man....I'll read your response....I like seeing your points of view...I'll be watching the Indy game with you in mind...but as far as responding on this point...I'm good. As I've come to say in here, we'll just have to agree to disagree....Until he shows me something...winning football....not that other stuff...I'll have my doubts...
Show me
Yep, I'm done because it's obvious minds wont be changed. I'll be watching and I'll be rooting for him. I find it's more fun that way.
