PREGAME Giants at Rams Pregame Thread
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All this talk about Puka is fine but the thing I want to see is Shula scrap this zone coverage and man up.
These excellent jerseys we are debuting Monday Night should be held in higher regard and esteem by both NFL and Rams fans.
We all know the Rams are the NFL Champions of 1951.
In addition to winning the 1951 NFL Championship, the 1950 team, that narrowly lost the Championship Game to Cleveland 30-28 might have actually been better. Kind of like how our 2000 team was our BEST Offense, despite the fact that our bookended year (1999, 2001) teams went to the Super Bowl.
Check out these eye-popping stats of the 1950 Los Angeles Rams......
The 1950 Rams hold the NFL's all-time record for average points per game, scoring 38.8 points per contest.[1] They also hold the record for most points in a three-game span, with 165 points between October 15 and 29.[2] They are the only team in modern NFL history to score 60-or-more points twice in a season. They did so in consecutive games, in Weeks Six (70) and Seven (65).[3]
Los Angeles's 466 points scored in 1950 are the most scored by any team in the 1950s, and more than 70 points more than the next-closest team (which is, incidentally, the 1951 Rams).[4] In the 1951 Pro Bowl, the first all-star game for the league in nine years, the Rams tied for the most selections with eight players.
We all know the Rams are the NFL Champions of 1951.
In addition to winning the 1951 NFL Championship, the 1950 team, that narrowly lost the Championship Game to Cleveland 30-28 might have actually been better. Kind of like how our 2000 team was our BEST Offense, despite the fact that our bookended year (1999, 2001) teams went to the Super Bowl.
Check out these eye-popping stats of the 1950 Los Angeles Rams......
The 1950 Rams hold the NFL's all-time record for average points per game, scoring 38.8 points per contest.[1] They also hold the record for most points in a three-game span, with 165 points between October 15 and 29.[2] They are the only team in modern NFL history to score 60-or-more points twice in a season. They did so in consecutive games, in Weeks Six (70) and Seven (65).[3]
Los Angeles's 466 points scored in 1950 are the most scored by any team in the 1950s, and more than 70 points more than the next-closest team (which is, incidentally, the 1951 Rams).[4] In the 1951 Pro Bowl, the first all-star game for the league in nine years, the Rams tied for the most selections with eight players.
That is one beat up secondary. Like seriously. On ESPN their LCB position is completely wiped out. In fact, the ONLY CB without a injury designation or IR is Colton Hood and 3 nicklebacks; Dru Philips, Nic Jones, and Nikko Reed. If we don't take advantage of this, I don't know what we are doing.
No one plays exclusively "man defense" any more. Defenses are more sophisticated in scheme. The flat fact is against the 9ers, the Ram defense was pretty confused with all the motion they had in their offensive scheme. It's more about discipline and tackling on defense because you're not gonna stop the offense every time. Take a look at a replay of the game. The Rams were not exclusively zone.
BonifayRam
Legend
Not a big fan of S Tanner Ingle. In preseason TI was often late to the party on all run & pass downs, when he was on time he whiffed on the tack. However he has played in 3 NFL gms & has 3 NFL preseasons under his belt. We should see TI see him playing up close to LOS in action this upcoming gm. with both safeties not running in full operation. Appears to me Rams like TI as a ST sorta ace. Rookie UDFA Safety Nick Anderson seriously outplayed him in pre season.
I would guess that veteran DL'er Larrell Murchison might get the callup to try to have a little extra pass rush out of the DL. We certainly need to see much better results from Branden Fiske & Desjuan Johnson. Will DJ officially start in place of MG opposite B.Young on that DL? Or will OLB'er Josaiah Stewart ?
DJ had 0 QB pressures/ 1 assisted tackle & no sacks on 15 snaps. DL BF - 2 QB pressures both were hurries, with no sacks/ 2 tackles 1 solo and 1 assist on 29 snaps. Seriously I expected so much better. UDFA Rookie DL'er Jaxson Moi was resigned to PS-16 in place of SS Tanner Ingle.
I would guess that veteran DL'er Larrell Murchison might get the callup to try to have a little extra pass rush out of the DL. We certainly need to see much better results from Branden Fiske & Desjuan Johnson. Will DJ officially start in place of MG opposite B.Young on that DL? Or will OLB'er Josaiah Stewart ?
DJ had 0 QB pressures/ 1 assisted tackle & no sacks on 15 snaps. DL BF - 2 QB pressures both were hurries, with no sacks/ 2 tackles 1 solo and 1 assist on 29 snaps. Seriously I expected so much better. UDFA Rookie DL'er Jaxson Moi was resigned to PS-16 in place of SS Tanner Ingle.
Not a fan of Ingle either as he cannot cover a bed, however, he is supposed to be great on special teams, but he was responsible for the punt block last year as he totally did not touch the guy across from him and ran down field and it was his guy who blocked the punt.
I was confused about press coverage, man-to-man, and zone. Defenses can play press coverage with CBs close to the line of scrimmage. They can stay man-to-man or switch to zone coverage. I posted a video that goes over Spag's blitz packages and shows how they move the players around, in this thread.
Here is a website that lists the man-to-man and zone for teams in week one. It's too much to post. The Rams were on the lower side, tied at #24 lowest at 9.4% just below the Whiners at 10.5%. The numbers may not be completely accurate. Teams do change week to week depending on opponents. The highest numbers were 46.9 to 26.9 for the top 5 man-to-man. Colts on top of the list.
NFL Secondary Statistics: Coverage Scheme Stats & Rates
Explore 2025 NFL coverage scheme data. See which defenses rely on man or zone coverage with our team-by-team percentage breakdown.
www.sharpfootballanalysis.com
Another site has 13.9 man coverages.
View: https://x.com/QBsMVP/status/2098265575029870616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2098265575029870616%7Ctwgr%5E40cb1a26fc56e232df1c036864396955b7b8bdbf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheramswire.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Frams%2F2026%2F09%2F17%2Frams-sean-mcvay-49ers-week-1-trent-mcduffie-jaylen-watson%2F91800350007%2F
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@thirteen28
We didn't have Puka last year against Jacksonville, and McVay's plan was masterful. I have confidence in a similar result. GO RAMS!
True I’m sure McVay is ready to pivot if need be. Lean into the run and 13 personnel. Then target Adams inside the red zone. Rams win by 10 hopefully.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
Only thing I see positive from this is that Stafford will actually distribute the ball more amongst the other offensive weapons which I am ok with if its going to help us win.
We thought we'd take advantage of the 49ers health issues. So I wouldn't get overly excited about this.
I was confused about press coverage, man-to-man, and zone. Defenses can play press coverage with CBs close to the line of scrimmage. They can stay man-to-man or switch to zone coverage. I posted a video that goes over Spag's blitz packages and shows how they move the players around, in this thread.
Here is a website that lists the man-to-man and zone for teams in week one. It's too much to post. The Rams were on the lower side, tied at #24 lowest at 9.4% just below the Whiners at 10.5%. The numbers may not be completely accurate. Teams do change week to week depending on opponents. The highest numbers were 46.9 to 26.9 for the top 5 man-to-man. Colts on top of the list.
NFL Secondary Statistics: Coverage Scheme Stats & Rates
Explore 2025 NFL coverage scheme data. See which defenses rely on man or zone coverage with our team-by-team percentage breakdown.
Another site has 13.9 man coverages.
View: https://x.com/QBsMVP/status/2098265575029870616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2098265575029870616%7Ctwgr%5E40cb1a26fc56e232df1c036864396955b7b8bdbf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheramswire.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Frams%2F2026%2F09%2F17%2Frams-sean-mcvay-49ers-week-1-trent-mcduffie-jaylen-watson%2F91800350007%2F
Some teams that played good defense weren't in man coverage that much. Mostly zone. Seattle at 6 percent dominate the Patriots offense. I guess its not so much the scheme as it is executing. Rams have some talented players on defense. Why was the execution so poor? Coaching? Jet lag? No cohesiveness with the new guys? All of the above? If its a problem with the cohesiveness I wonder how long it will take to get there?
It's not as much as just man to man or zone. We went out and got two pass defenders who are known to be physical and to disrupt a route from the hike of the ball so use them that way. Both McDuffy and Watson are great cover backs so stop having them play 9ft off the reciever. Get in their face or a QB like Purdy will pick you apart.
I was pointing out that press coverage can be either man or zone. The Rams did see some blitzes and some press coverage. They couldn't cover Mike Evans, who got away with some push-offs. Hard to blame Lake, but a quicker CB could help. The Jet lag, first game , Garrett being hurt effected the Rams. I rewatched the condensed video. The Rams did have poor execution.
1. They had a missed blocking assignment on Bosa on 2nd and short.
2 . Holding penalty
3. A roughing-the-passer penalty.
4a. Special teams gave up field position. Bad decision returning what looked like 2 kickoff returns that could have been let go and taken at the 35 yard line. They just got over the 20 yard line.
4b.They let Debo gets a big return to start the second half.
5. Stafford INT with the lead while in scoring position and then gave up the lead on the ensuing drive.
6. Stafford's failed sneak attempt.