lol come on dude. “Average attendance”. That’s the baseline for your argument?!? You do realize NBA/NHL stadiums have limited size.
Now do total attendance for the year (or $$$ revenues). Come on man
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Now do total attendance for the year (or $$$ revenues). Come on man
You do realize MLS stadiums have li.ited capacity dude? Lol come on yourself man. Buts in seats eyes on TV watching the sport soccer beats both sports. The numbers are tbere and those numbers tell us more people spend their time and money on soccer than the NHL and NBA.
Add to that that i was responding to was a 5th at best comment.
Yep. The bang them over the head with consumerism USA wants no part of that. Not a nickel of profit wasted in these lands.
I haven’t watched a MLB game in awhile. Are we still afforded full innings without ads?
You used average attendance as the point. NBA/NHL stadiums can’t go beyond the 15-18K maximum per game. Whereas MLS stadiums are bigger. Obviously they will have more per game - it’s way less games too btw. It’s a silly point to use.
The 2024 women’s US open drew 45K. Does that mean the Women’s US open is more popular than nba, mlb, mls, nhl, etc?
Heck, Nebraska drew 92k for volleyball day in 2023. Is that more popular than NFL?
There are much better ways to make your point than using average game attendance
I wouldn't even know where to find an MLS game on YouTube TV..... I'm not interested in it though.
Yeah, that argument for average attendance is totally bogus. Basketball and Hockey are indoor sports/stadiums and limited in size. Soccer basically sucks to watch for numerous reasons, and it's way behind the top for sports in the United States of Football, Baseball, Basketball and Hockey. Most people in the U.S. could not even name one player in the MLS, and many don't even know that soccer league exists!
MLS had attendance at 94% of capacity
NHL 97.5%
NBA at 97%
So MLS had more people per game and less of a % of stadium capacity.
I'm not saying soccer is #1. Again you know better than to jump in the middle of a discussion.
I have no idea about attendance, but it is not remotely true that more people watch MLS games than NBA games. If that was true, the MLS would have far more lucrative TV deals (or the NBA would have far less lucrative TV deals).
You claimed the MLS. Now, you're talking about the World Cup. Apples to oranges.
"Incorrect on both fronts. As the data shows:
1) Viewership: Soccer (27%) beats Hockey (17%), but it doesn't touch the NBA at 55%.
2) Butts in seats: Soccer is in 5th place at 11.1 million total season attendance. That is literally half of Hockey's 21.5 million and the NBA's 22.2 million.
This vid below does a good job of summarizing the difference in ad revenue, which is what sets the NFL apart. Truth is they have been the most ad and television savvy sports league in the world for some time now. And the game also ports well to TV in how it's structured, with easy breaks in the action. Whereas soccer for example it feels bad stopping the flow of the game.
That said and to your point above the water breaks are a really bad sign for world soccer fans. It is going to open pandora's box once the soccer owners get their grubby fingers on the ad revenue and the fact that soccer has been more about the sport than the advertising is probably going to change.
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Soccer man soccer.I have no idea about attendance, but it is not remotely true that more people watch MLS games than NBA games. If that was true, the MLS would have far more lucrative TV deals (or the NBA would have far less lucrative TV deals).
You claimed the MLS. Now, you're talking about the World Cup. Apples to oranges.
