for those complaining about Rams wasting 4th round pick on Bennett

[dieterbrock]

I confess that I have not read every post on this thread, so if this has been addressed, my apologies...

That said, does anyone here view Bennett as a successor to Stafford/long-term starter?

If the measuring stick is "backup QB who is potentially better than John Wolford," okay... I could see him being that. But, as an heir apparent... moxie ain't enough.

I think there is an incredible amount of excitement for the first QB drafted in the McVay era.
I think McVay and the staff see a lot of what McVay was as a player himself, gritty & overcoming all the physical limitations.
So I think they replace the rah rah, team loves the guy, Wolford with an upgraded version.
I can see where he'll be a fan favorite, may be even get some playing time as a read option type guy, giving Staff a blow now and again while getting him some on field experience.
Could be a long term #2 QB and ultimately an "unofficial" additional coach
As an heir apparent? Less than zero % chance.

 

[Ram Ts]

Wolford replacement - and a Long-term one. The Rams backup QB is set and done for several years.

Stafford’s replacement is still in college (at NC if I had my way)

 

[dieterbrock]

Stafford’s replacement is still in college (at NC if I had my way)

I'd rather have Maye than Caleb

 

[Tano]

I'd rather have Maye than Caleb

I like Caleb a lot but I do have my concerns about him.

He takes a long time to find open receivers which may be a read the defense type problem.

I have seen Caleb run around for a good 5 seconds before throwing the ball.

However, Caleb is awesome at avoiding the rush and throwing strong and accurate throws.

So the issue with Caleb will be is does he want to learn or just use his athletic ability to throw the ball ala Murray.

I don't know how it will turn out with Caleb.

 

[RamFan503]

Exactly. He IS the guy who has beaten the odds.

I mean, it's not like anyone is saying he is going to take Staffords job. It's just that he brings an interesting story and skillset to the QB room. My favorite thing about him is that quick release. Kid can spin it.

I predict Stetson will be our starting QB by week 3 - @Merlin

I confess that I have not read every post on this thread, so if this has been addressed, so the fuck what...

FIFY

 

[AvengerRam]

FIFY

That’s fair!

 

[PARAM]

So the issue with Caleb will be is does he want to learn or just use his athletic ability to throw the ball ala Murray.

I don't know how it will turn out with Caleb.

Good question. Will he be more like Mahomes (as all his fans suggest) or Kyler Murray. If it's the latter, big trouble for the team drafting him. Presumably #1 overall.

 

[TSFH Fan]

Some draft guru is going to barely hint at Caleb Williams and the s-tag and there will be people here who lose their minds.

I wish someone would do a deep dive comparison of Williams, Kyler Murray, and Baker Mayfield at similar career stages under Lincoln Riley. A quick eye-balling seems that Williams is statistically in the neighborhood of the other two, not outstandingly better. Watching Caleb, he's not the athlete of Kyler, but a bit more so than Baker. No, you can't add Jalen Hurts because of his plus-plus leadership and his proven ability in a different program -- i.e., no similar stage.

The s-tag? "System Quarterback". I'm not saying Caleb is a SQB, but no rational person is going to ignore the Lincoln Riley influence.

It's probably not a bad thing that McVay has a good friend who coached Kyler and will be coaching Caleb and will be able to provide a first-person comparison & contrast of the two.

 

[nighttrain]

I initially didn’t like the pick. However, if he turns out to be a reliable backup then it will have been worth it. If Rypien gets the primary backup spot and holds it all season then I’d be inclined to say it was a wasted pick or misevaluation.

the three-quarterback rule's reinstatement means Bennett is here to stay.
train

 

[So Ram]

The person. Kind of a dick, imo.

Really - how can you get away with that on here ? He’s a Ram & has NEVER shown that.. All he has shown as a Ram is being a first class person.

You know Bennett?

From what I saw was he has that cocky winning attitude.Even when he got in trouble he didn’t do much that was wrong.

How many times was he a Heisman candidate? Doesn’t that have to show good character?
CJ Stroud & Young twice. Stenson was only 2022(3).

Who are the 2022 Heisman candidates? - Google Search

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[So Ram]

the three-quarterback rule's reinstatement means Bennett is here to stay.
train

Love the positive & view point.

—I said something bad about a Ram which I NEVER do,but wanted to make a strong point about a player not making the roster.I actually am probably wrong about it as well?I just see Ben Sko being an odd player out type because his skill level as a WR isn’t that good.
-McCutcheon imo has more upside,but then again he might have natural trouble tracking the ball?
I don’t know though,it’s really hard to know from the outside looking in.
—Your point on the 3 QB seems exactly RIGHT!! When looking WR special teams is a way to make The Rams roster. Sko & Cutch both are big & fast.Willing to compete & tackle.Jake Funk made The Rams that way without being a good NFL RB.

 

[Tano]

Good question. Will he be more like Mahomes (as all his fans suggest) or Kyler Murray. If it's the latter, big trouble for the team drafting him. Presumably #1 overall.

However, the difference between Caleb and Murray is that Murray is a read one and then run if not there. Whereas Caleb will stand around forever in the pocket trying to find a receiver before running around forever when the pocket breaks down while still trying to find a receiver before finally running. My concern is why does it take so long for Caleb to find an open receiver? USC has some really good receivers that should be open long before Caleb finally throws the ball.

 

[Faceplant]

However, the difference between Caleb and Murray is that Murray is a read one and then run if not there. Whereas Caleb will stand around forever in the pocket trying to find a receiver before running around forever when the pocket breaks down while still trying to find a receiver before finally running. My concern is why does it take so long for Caleb to find an open receiver? USC has some really good receivers that should be open long before Caleb finally throws the ball.

Yeah, I don't understand all the Caleb hype personally. What I have watched of him did not have me screaming "omfg, let's tank the season to draft this guy".

I will try to watch more of him this season just in case the Rams stink it up or trade another 400 1st rounders for him....

 

[Tano]

Yeah, I don't understand all the Caleb hype personally. What I have watched of him did not have me screaming "omfg, let's tank the season to draft this guy".

I will try to watch more of him this season just in case the Rams stink it up or trade another 400 1st rounders for him....

Oh he is extremely talented. He has the ability to be close to the next Mahomes but he needs to learn how to read defenses better. Is that teachable? I think it is as long as he has the attitude to learn. Goff last year was finally able to learn to read defenses better.

Murray - his attitude and shortness is holding him back.

 

[HitStick]

Caleb isn’t the best qb in this draft. His play is closer to a college Manziel than it is Mahomes. Both held the ball too long, couldn’t find open receivers quickly, then when the pocket eventually broke down, they play backyard football until they find someone. It’s not a successful recipe.

 

[Kupped]

Really - how can you get away with that on here ? He’s a Ram & has NEVER shown that.. All he has shown as a Ram is being a first class person.

You know Bennett?

From what I saw was he has that cocky winning attitude.Even when he got in trouble he didn’t do much that was wrong.

How many times was he a Heisman candidate? Doesn’t that have to show good character?
CJ Stroud & Young twice. Stenson was only 2022(3).

Who are the 2022 Heisman candidates? - Google Search

www.google.com

How can I get away with that on here? It was my take on the evaluation of a player the Rams drafted. I was explaining why I was not enthusiastic about the pick. I'm not harping on it, I haven't called him that in other posts and am not trying to convince anyone about him.
I've also pointed out that I hope he succeeds as a Ram and that he's conducted himself well as a Ram to this point and I hope it stays that way.

Get off the high horse.

 

[Kupped]

Caleb isn’t the best qb in this draft. His play is closer to a college Manziel than it is Mahomes. Both held the ball too long, couldn’t find open receivers quickly, then when the pocket eventually broke down, they play backyard football until they find someone. It’s not a successful recipe.

Nope.
The types of throws Caleb makes are throws Johnny No-balls could only dream of making. Mike Evans made Johnny... Caleb uses all his weapons and runs better than Mahomes.
He does NOT have Mahomes arm.. because no one does.
Caleb knows how to run an offense.... if you've only seen the highlights.. you only know the plays he extends, etc.. he's a very, very smart QB.

 

[dieterbrock]

Nope.
The types of throws Caleb makes are throws Johnny No-balls could only dream of making. Mike Evans made Johnny... Caleb uses all his weapons and runs better than Mahomes.
He does NOT have Mahomes arm.. because no one does.
Caleb knows how to run an offense.... if you've only seen the highlights.. you only know the plays he extends, etc.. he's a very, very smart QB.

Caleb is awesome. Might be the same coach, but he transitioned to a whole new team as a true sophomore and still brought his game to a new level. He certainly worthy of a #1 overall pick.
I just think that Drake Maye is a better pro prospect

 

[HitStick]

Nope.
The types of throws Caleb makes are throws Johnny No-balls could only dream of making. Mike Evans made Johnny... Caleb uses all his weapons and runs better than Mahomes.
He does NOT have Mahomes arm.. because no one does.
Caleb knows how to run an offense.... if you've only seen the highlights.. you only know the plays he extends, etc.. he's a very, very smart QB.

I have missed maybe 3 USC games in the last 5 years. I have zero faith that he’s more than a stud college quarterback. Is he better than Matt Leinart was? Sam Darnold? Even Mark Sanchez?

He’s not better than Leinart, that’s for sure. Darnold? Meh. Sanchez, yes. At least Sanchez could get the ball out quickly and get through his reads. That’s why he was able to manage games when he had a decent offense around him and a top Defense, which is why he made two AFC championship games. When Caleb’s pocket breaks down before he finds an open receiver, that backyard crap doesn’t breed success in the NFL.

And don’t act like Manziel was just a product of Evans. Evans had 1300 yards and 12 Touchdowns out of Johnnys 4100 and 37. Evans was clearly his number 1, and his numbers would look the same regardless of who was throwing to him, but Johnny was a baller in college.

Some game doesn’t translate to the league, and I don’t thing Caleb’s will. I hope I’m wrong. With Brady retired, I don’t root against any player unless they’re going against the Rams. I just don’t see a game that translates.

 

[Merlin]

Maye is every bit a top pick. I like Caleb but would not take him one overall. Again that is me expecting a top QB to be a certain size.

We have seen teams force picks at the top on smaller QBs. Not a fan of that. I would rather have a top edge, corner, tackle than take an undersized QB that high.