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It was meant for you, and I apologize for being harsh and angry about it. It's just that it's frustrating to be told not to do something when I felt that I was only hyping up Stewart, Johnson, and the edge rushing UDFAs who showed potential.

As far as the UDFA edge rushers, honestly, looking at Wesley Bailey's (Louisville) and Eddie Walls III's (Houston) highlights made me a believer in both of them; they're extremely athletic and lengthy edge rushers who can bend, have solid hands usage for their limited experience - Bailey being a Canadian and new to the game, and EW3 being a double transfer from smaller schools, are pretty damned strong (Walls had 22 bench reps and Bailey had 27), and just seemed loaded with potential. Plus there's Payton Zdroik (Air Force) whom I'd personally love to see what he could do with both stand-up and in the dirt on the edge - he's listed as a DT, but he's small for the position (5'11", 270 lbs.) - because he's super athletic and strong.

(I also love two of the cornerbacks we got (Al'zillion Hamilton, Fresno State and Nyzier Fourqurean, Wisconsin) and really, really, REALLY love the running back we picked up (Dean Connors, Houston), but that's neither here nor there.)

But I digress. What I've seen from Stewart is potential and the potential to grow. Despite being the obvious third wheel to Young and Verse, he still was around the pace where Young was in his rookie year (and let's not forget that Young benefitted a lot from AD playing in his rookie year, getting clean-up sacks).

Stewart, from what little I saw, had better hands-usage than Young did as a rookie (and to Young's credit, he's very much improved in terms of the technical details of the position from his rookie year). Yes, he only had three sacks, but his sacks weren't a matter of cleaning up (for example, the sack against the Titans where he did a full speed rush, swiped away the hands of the left tackle, and sacked Ward, the sack against the Jaguars where he pushed the pocket and did an excellent spin move to get to Lawrence, and for his third, beat a tight end chip and the left tackle to get a strip sack on the Cardinals in the second game against them that flipped possession).

He's also been fairly good in coverage, nearly got a pick against the Whiners, multiple pass deflections by getting his hands up, getting tackles for a loss, and he's had multiple pressures that have had an effect on the game.

He put on a clinic against the Cardinals in their first game, as proven by this breakdown:



Is he perfect? No. But he had a much better year than people wish to give him credit for. He was far from the best rookie edge rusher, but he definitely showed a lot of potential to excel in a bigger role. He's not the freak athlete Byron Young is, but he's really close, and I think this year will be his breakthrough year.

Hey, appreciate the time you put into this.

I just don't think it's a worthwhile endeavor to speculate on UFDA's as guys who will push someone off a roster till we see them in camp (... and even then it is not a betting proposition).

As far as Stewart goes, everything you say is great but as it stands right now, it's not enough.

He simply has not shown enough for us to move off of a top OLB in the league - not average but top - when we have legitimate superbowl aspirations next year.

What Stewart has shown me so far is that he's quite a capable and useful number 3 edge and spot LB for all the reasons you mentioned and I'd be okay with him spot starting for us in case their was an injury to Young or Verse.

Playing him as a starting edge will signifcantly affect our ability to make a Superbowl while playing him off the bench may provide us with 5-6 key plays through a season that propel us to the Lombardy.
 
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Hey, appreciate the time you put into this.

I just don't think it's a worthwhile endeavor to speculate on UFDA's as guys who will push someone off a roster till we see them in camp (... and even then it is not a betting proposition).

As far as Stewart goes, everything you say is great but as it stands right now, it's not enough.

He simply has not shown enough for us to move off of a top OLB in the league - not average but top - when we have legitimate superbowl aspirations next year.

What Stewart has shown me so far is that he's quite a capable and useful number 3 edge and spot LB for all the reasons you mentioned and I'd be okay with him spot starting for us in case their was an injury to Young or Verse.

Playing him as a starting edge will signifcantly affect our ability to make a Superbowl while playing him off the bench may provide us with 5-6 key plays through a season that propel us to the Lombardy.

That's fair, and I can agree with all you said. Thank you for being understanding.
 
Forbes would be tempting, but he's a third cornerback with two others ahead of him, so he might cost a bit too much. Still, it's a club option, and if he shows out enough, why not?
That club option has to be picked up by 5/1/26. If the Rams pick his 5th year option up, he'll cost in the $12mil range. Is he worth that as CB3?
 
It was meant for you, and I apologize for being harsh and angry about it. It's just that it's frustrating to be told not to do something when I felt that I was only hyping up Stewart, Johnson, and the edge rushing UDFAs who showed potential.

As far as the UDFA edge rushers, honestly, looking at Wesley Bailey's (Louisville) and Eddie Walls III's (Houston) highlights made me a believer in both of them; they're extremely athletic and lengthy edge rushers who can bend, have solid hands usage for their limited experience - Bailey being a Canadian and new to the game, and EW3 being a double transfer from smaller schools, are pretty damned strong (Walls had 22 bench reps and Bailey had 27), and just seemed loaded with potential. Plus there's Payton Zdroik (Air Force) whom I'd personally love to see what he could do with both stand-up and in the dirt on the edge - he's listed as a DT, but he's small for the position (5'11", 270 lbs.) - because he's super athletic and strong.

(I also love two of the cornerbacks we got (Al'zillion Hamilton, Fresno State and Nyzier Fourqurean, Wisconsin) and really, really, REALLY love the running back we picked up (Dean Connors, Houston), but that's neither here nor there.)

But I digress. What I've seen from Stewart is potential and the potential to grow. Despite being the obvious third wheel to Young and Verse, he still was around the pace where Young was in his rookie year (and let's not forget that Young benefitted a lot from AD playing in his rookie year, getting clean-up sacks).

Stewart, from what little I saw, had better hands-usage than Young did as a rookie (and to Young's credit, he's very much improved in terms of the technical details of the position from his rookie year). Yes, he only had three sacks, but his sacks weren't a matter of cleaning up (for example, the sack against the Titans where he did a full speed rush, swiped away the hands of the left tackle, and sacked Ward, the sack against the Jaguars where he pushed the pocket and did an excellent spin move to get to Lawrence, and for his third, beat a tight end chip and the left tackle to get a strip sack on the Cardinals in the second game against them that flipped possession).

He's also been fairly good in coverage, nearly got a pick against the Whiners, multiple pass deflections by getting his hands up, getting tackles for a loss, and he's had multiple pressures that have had an effect on the game.

He put on a clinic against the Cardinals in their first game, as proven by this breakdown:



Is he perfect? No. But he had a much better year than people wish to give him credit for. He was far from the best rookie edge rusher, but he definitely showed a lot of potential to excel in a bigger role. He's not the freak athlete Byron Young is, but he's really close, and I think this year will be his breakthrough year.

Advanced analytics show that Stewart's rookie year was on par with BY's 2nd season. But Young took a sizable step up in year 3. It would be great if Stewart took a big step up in his 2nd season.
 
From that list, my priorities in order:
Puka


Avila
Dotson
Turner

Young















Forbes
As far as Forbes it will depend how plays this year.
If he can be a solid 3 or 4.....and he does have some ability....he could be resigned for a deal that isn't too costly.
If he totally kicks ass he will go somewhere else.
I think the first option....or he is just ok again and is let walk....is most likely.
 
I think Ferguson is likely to not be resigned....he is costly enough already and would be looking for a raise. I think there is very good chance the young guys being brought in replace him.
Young and Verse....that is an interesting one to me.
 
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It was meant for you, and I apologize for being harsh and angry about it. It's just that it's frustrating to be told not to do something when I felt that I was only hyping up Stewart, Johnson, and the edge rushing UDFAs who showed potential.

As far as the UDFA edge rushers, honestly, looking at Wesley Bailey's (Louisville) and Eddie Walls III's (Houston) highlights made me a believer in both of them; they're extremely athletic and lengthy edge rushers who can bend, have solid hands usage for their limited experience - Bailey being a Canadian and new to the game, and EW3 being a double transfer from smaller schools, are pretty damned strong (Walls had 22 bench reps and Bailey had 27), and just seemed loaded with potential. Plus there's Payton Zdroik (Air Force) whom I'd personally love to see what he could do with both stand-up and in the dirt on the edge - he's listed as a DT, but he's small for the position (5'11", 270 lbs.) - because he's super athletic and strong.

(I also love two of the cornerbacks we got (Al'zillion Hamilton, Fresno State and Nyzier Fourqurean, Wisconsin) and really, really, REALLY love the running back we picked up (Dean Connors, Houston), but that's neither here nor there.)

But I digress. What I've seen from Stewart is potential and the potential to grow. Despite being the obvious third wheel to Young and Verse, he still was around the pace where Young was in his rookie year (and let's not forget that Young benefitted a lot from AD playing in his rookie year, getting clean-up sacks).

Stewart, from what little I saw, had better hands-usage than Young did as a rookie (and to Young's credit, he's very much improved in terms of the technical details of the position from his rookie year). Yes, he only had three sacks, but his sacks weren't a matter of cleaning up (for example, the sack against the Titans where he did a full speed rush, swiped away the hands of the left tackle, and sacked Ward, the sack against the Jaguars where he pushed the pocket and did an excellent spin move to get to Lawrence, and for his third, beat a tight end chip and the left tackle to get a strip sack on the Cardinals in the second game against them that flipped possession).

He's also been fairly good in coverage, nearly got a pick against the Whiners, multiple pass deflections by getting his hands up, getting tackles for a loss, and he's had multiple pressures that have had an effect on the game.

He put on a clinic against the Cardinals in their first game, as proven by this breakdown:



Is he perfect? No. But he had a much better year than people wish to give him credit for. He was far from the best rookie edge rusher, but he definitely showed a lot of potential to excel in a bigger role. He's not the freak athlete Byron Young is, but he's really close, and I think this year will be his breakthrough year.


I actually like Stewart a lot and could see him pushing for more playing time…


But you can’t show the video against a bottom 3 team for evidence.

Right now, he’s a very very good rotational piece. He could develop into more.


But I also think people under appreciate what BY (and Turner to a lesser extent) is to this front. BY is a beast.

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We should be getting some nice comp picks in the next couple of years, provided we don't sign everyone, and we won't. Probably get a couple of 3rds for losing a coach as well. Keep adding young, cheap talent to the roster.
 
I think Ferguson is likely to not be resigned....he is costly enough already and would be looking for a raise. I think there is very good chance the young guys being brought in replace him.
Young and Verse....that is an interesting one to me.
Me think you mean Parkinson.
 
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