Extending Potential Free Agents

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I'm definitely happy with our current roster - overall - but if our draft was looking to next year, I get to ask some other questions about next year as well. We have a number of key players who are in the last year of their contracts - not just Stafford (likely extended, but really year to year) and Davante (this is likely his last year).

Key UFAs that could be looking at new contracts prior to the start of the upcoming season include:
  • Puka Nacua, WR
  • Kevin Dotson, RG
  • Emmanuelle Forbes Jr., CB
  • Steve Avila, LG
  • Byron Young, OLB
  • Kobie Turner, DT
There are some others, of course, but each of these ones has a legit shot at a contract extension.

Nacua has been talked about more elsewhere, so no need to talk about him more in this thread. And Forbes is the least likely of these six, so we can avoid discussing him too. With those two removed, who do you think gets an extension from the other four names (KDot, Avila, Young and Turner)?
 
I would love to see the Rams extend Kevin Dotson (30) and Colby Parkinson (27). I think both players should be part of the Rams' plans beyond 2026.

Their combined 2026 cap hit is $26.5M.
That is $5M more than the cap hits of Nacua, Avila, Turner, Young and McClendon combined.

If the Rams extend Dotson and Parkinson, their 2026 cap numbers should go down significantly.
 
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Personally, I'd extend Nacua, Turner, Avila, and McClendon as my major signings. And if Stafford doesn't retire and has a great year, I'd definitely go for a two-year deal with him.

Forbes would be tempting, but he's a third cornerback with two others ahead of him, so he might cost a bit too much. Still, it's a club option, and if he shows out enough, why not?

Shelton has run his course, and I think there's going to be some awesome centers in next year's draft.

Davante is likely gone. We'll have to find a receiver who can take his place, and I don't think that guy is on our roster at the moment.

Dotson and Avila have both had injuries, but Avila is younger and is a better pass-blocker, and with Trost at right guard, Dotson is a cost I'm willing to pay.

McClendon earned that right tackle job, and you can't let him go. Turner is the lynchpin behind our defense, and the guy I'm most wanting to re-sign. Nacua is Nacua.

I'd look to trade Byron Young for futures at the trade deadline; I think he's great, but he's also closer to thirty than most of the signings, despite being drafted three years ago. I wouldn't risk a long-term contract on someone that old.

Desjuan Johnson is someone I'd extend for the right price, but I think he'll get a solid contract. Same with Davis Allen; right price, I'd keep him. I'm not a massive Parkinson fan, and with Ferguson and Klare likely taking spots, I'd rather not make an expensive Parkinson deal.

Ethan Evans...I just don't know what to think of him. He can nail some awesome punts and shank others. He needs to have a consistent year, or I'd move on.

Ronnie Rivers and Larrell Murchison are UFAs. Please get rid of them. Bennett is gone because of Simpson. Quessenberry is likely gone, too.

RFAs I'd let go: Keir Thomas, Xavier Smith, Omar Speights (the lattermost is tough, but I think there's plenty of MLBs we could get, and Dolac is my starter alongside Landman, period. I love that kid (and I"m still pissed at the Broncos for taking his ex-teammate, Red Murdock, so we can't pair them).

RFAs and ERFAs I'd keep: Justin Dedich, Jaylen McCollough, Josh Wallace, Harrison Mevis.
 
I love Dotson and think he's the superior guard to Avila (pass blocking is about the same but Dotson dominates on screens/gap blocking/movement/etc...) but he's probably coming right off his prime and it's probably worthwhile to extend Avila instead.

Why would we trade Young at the trade deadline? We're trying to win a superbowl. We have no one to replace him.
 
I love Dotson and think he's the superior guard to Avila (pass blocking is about the same but Dotson dominates on screens/gap blocking/movement/etc...) but he's probably coming right off his prime and it's probably worthwhile to extend Avila instead.

Why would we trade Young at the trade deadline? We're trying to win a superbowl. We have no one to replace him.

Josaiah Stewart without a doubt and Desjuan Johnson to an extent. And I do like a lot of the edges we're supposed to have signed as UDFAs (we'll see which ones we actually signed when the official announcement comes, whenever that is, but I liked a lot of them).
 
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Josaiah Stewart without a doubt and Desjuan Johnson to an extent. And I do like a lot of the edges we're supposed to have signed as UDFAs (we'll see which ones we actually signed when the official announcement comes, whenever that is, but I liked a lot of them).
Stewart hasn't shown anything to make us confident he can handle starter reps.

You're fan-casting here.

Don't do that.
 
I'd look to trade Byron Young for futures at the trade deadline; I think he's great, but he's also closer to thirty than most of the signings, despite being drafted three years ago. I wouldn't risk a long-term contract on someone that old.
I agree with almost everything but this. Young is likely a goner due $100M+ on the open market as an elite athlete who gets double digit sacks but gets a lot of cleanup sacks and at times doesn't defeat blockers on his own or create his own pressures. Replaceable but worth his weight in gold on the open market.

That being said, even if he is a goner and we could get maybe a future 2nd or something like that, it isn't worth it for what he still provides us in a playoff run to trade him midseason. Only losing teams in fire sale mode trade valuable assets midseason not teams with Super Bowl aspirations. We'll get a 3rd round comp pick anyway which makes it make even less sense.
 
I'm not opposed to trading Young, but imo it has to be before the season starts. This is a team making a run at the superbowl, don't tinker with the defense mid-season if we are succeeding and our defense is elite. This year is about acquiring the best players to put on the field and make a run, not hedging bets and better positioning our team for the future. Just play Young and collect the comp pick the following year.
 
Let Young ball-out in our run for getting the Lombardi Trophy back. Then he can leave via huge FA contract and we get the 3rd round comp pick.

Rinse & repeat
Exactly, why trade him during a superbowl run when if he leaves we'll prob get a shot at high day 3 pick (especially if we just resign as many of our other guys as we can and don't bring in anyone else).
 
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Nothing against you, but what the absolute hell? Like I'm speculating when I say that Stewart has every chance to replace Young when he is our eventual Byron Young replacement; that's why he was drafted as high as he was. Like I'm expressing an "ideal" choice when I say that some of the UDFA edges look good. It's called "being positive"; maybe, just maybe, that's the whole point of this forum's existence?

I'm not at all saying to trade Agent Zero for a third-round pick or whatever; just that he's not some untouchable on this roster.
 
The could sign several and spread the cap hit over the next few years. If Stafford retires in a year or two they'll have their quarterback on a rookie contract. So they won't be spending big money on the positions. I think Puka's a no brainer. I'd rate Turner and Young over the others. But I think they can make it work with Dotson and Avila. With Ferguson and Klare on rookie deals the TE position can be affordable if they extend Parkinson. Forbes might not cost too much.
 
Nothing against you, but what the absolute hell? Like I'm speculating when I say that Stewart has every chance to replace Young when he is our eventual Byron Young replacement; that's why he was drafted as high as he was. Like I'm expressing an "ideal" choice when I say that some of the UDFA edges look good. It's called "being positive"; maybe, just maybe, that's the whole point of this forum's existence?

I'm not at all saying to trade Agent Zero for a third-round pick or whatever; just that he's not some untouchable on this roster.
I think this was meant for me, @Da-Rock is taking a stray here for just sharing the definition.

It's all good.

But let's not fall back on being "positive."

What exactly is it that you've seen from Steward that makes you think he can take on the starter role and approximate the production we've got from a top 10 DE (last year)?
 
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I think this was meant for me, @Da-Rock is taking a stray here for just sharing the definition.

It's all good.

But let's not fall back on being "positive."

What exactly is it that you've seen from Steward that makes you think he can take on the starter role and approximate the production we've got from a top 10 DE (last year)?

It was meant for you, and I apologize for being harsh and angry about it. It's just that it's frustrating to be told not to do something when I felt that I was only hyping up Stewart, Johnson, and the edge rushing UDFAs who showed potential.

As far as the UDFA edge rushers, honestly, looking at Wesley Bailey's (Louisville) and Eddie Walls III's (Houston) highlights made me a believer in both of them; they're extremely athletic and lengthy edge rushers who can bend, have solid hands usage for their limited experience - Bailey being a Canadian and new to the game, and EW3 being a double transfer from smaller schools, are pretty damned strong (Walls had 22 bench reps and Bailey had 27), and just seemed loaded with potential. Plus there's Payton Zdroik (Air Force) whom I'd personally love to see what he could do with both stand-up and in the dirt on the edge - he's listed as a DT, but he's small for the position (5'11", 270 lbs.) - because he's super athletic and strong.

(I also love two of the cornerbacks we got (Al'zillion Hamilton, Fresno State and Nyzier Fourqurean, Wisconsin) and really, really, REALLY love the running back we picked up (Dean Connors, Houston), but that's neither here nor there.)

But I digress. What I've seen from Stewart is potential and the potential to grow. Despite being the obvious third wheel to Young and Verse, he still was around the pace where Young was in his rookie year (and let's not forget that Young benefitted a lot from AD playing in his rookie year, getting clean-up sacks).

Stewart, from what little I saw, had better hands-usage than Young did as a rookie (and to Young's credit, he's very much improved in terms of the technical details of the position from his rookie year). Yes, he only had three sacks, but his sacks weren't a matter of cleaning up (for example, the sack against the Titans where he did a full speed rush, swiped away the hands of the left tackle, and sacked Ward, the sack against the Jaguars where he pushed the pocket and did an excellent spin move to get to Lawrence, and for his third, beat a tight end chip and the left tackle to get a strip sack on the Cardinals in the second game against them that flipped possession).

He's also been fairly good in coverage, nearly got a pick against the Whiners, multiple pass deflections by getting his hands up, getting tackles for a loss, and he's had multiple pressures that have had an effect on the game.

He put on a clinic against the Cardinals in their first game, as proven by this breakdown:



Is he perfect? No. But he had a much better year than people wish to give him credit for. He was far from the best rookie edge rusher, but he definitely showed a lot of potential to excel in a bigger role. He's not the freak athlete Byron Young is, but he's really close, and I think this year will be his breakthrough year.
 
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Personally, I'd extend Nacua, Turner, Avila, and McClendon as my major signings. And if Stafford doesn't retire and has a great year, I'd definitely go for a two-year deal with him.

Forbes would be tempting, but he's a third cornerback with two others ahead of him, so he might cost a bit too much. Still, it's a club option, and if he shows out enough, why not?

Shelton has run his course, and I think there's going to be some awesome centers in next year's draft.

Davante is likely gone. We'll have to find a receiver who can take his place, and I don't think that guy is on our roster at the moment.

Dotson and Avila have both had injuries, but Avila is younger and is a better pass-blocker, and with Trost at right guard, Dotson is a cost I'm willing to pay.

McClendon earned that right tackle job, and you can't let him go. Turner is the lynchpin behind our defense, and the guy I'm most wanting to re-sign. Nacua is Nacua.

I'd look to trade Byron Young for futures at the trade deadline; I think he's great, but he's also closer to thirty than most of the signings, despite being drafted three years ago. I wouldn't risk a long-term contract on someone that old.

Desjuan Johnson is someone I'd extend for the right price, but I think he'll get a solid contract. Same with Davis Allen; right price, I'd keep him. I'm not a massive Parkinson fan, and with Ferguson and Klare likely taking spots, I'd rather not make an expensive Parkinson deal.

Ethan Evans...I just don't know what to think of him. He can nail some awesome punts and shank others. He needs to have a consistent year, or I'd move on.

Ronnie Rivers and Larrell Murchison are UFAs. Please get rid of them. Bennett is gone because of Simpson. Quessenberry is likely gone, too.

RFAs I'd let go: Keir Thomas, Xavier Smith, Omar Speights (the lattermost is tough, but I think there's plenty of MLBs we could get, and Dolac is my starter alongside Landman, period. I love that kid (and I"m still pissed at the Broncos for taking his ex-teammate, Red Murdock, so we can't pair them).

RFAs and ERFAs I'd keep: Justin Dedich, Jaylen McCollough, Josh Wallace, Harrison Mevis.

I agree with most of this, but if Agent 0 is playing well, just let him play out the year.

I would disagree about Bennett. He needs to be kept around for a while.

Keep Quiz unless it's obvious one of the younger guys is just as serviceable.
 
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