Executive order aims to limit NCAA athletes to 5 years, 1 transfer
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I think that's bullshit. Life comes hard at people, and we don't know the reasons why a player would feel the need to transfer.
How about politicians keep their fucking fingers out of sports, eh? It took a half century - more, even - for players to get any rights, and now people who are not even remotely involved in the NCAA are pushing them back to that era.
As much as I don't like this kind of action by any president the fact that some people are playing college football for 7 8 or 9 years like is happening now is pretty idiotic.
And here I thought Executive Orders were being overused before. And that’s not being political. I think they’re overused by all Presidents over the past couple decades.
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They should at least limit the number of transfers where you don't have to sit out a year like they used to do yrars ago.
You are doing no favors allowing kids to transfer 3 or 4 times or more. The majority of kids won't make the NFL and the chances that they end up graduating after 3 transfers are next to zero.
fearsomefour
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I think it depends on the reason.....a redshirt year? sure.....a grey shirt (injury) year? sure.....that gets you to six.
Unless it became a common misused tactic to stack talent, I don't mind it really.
Disagree. For example, Keagan Trost, the kid we picked in the third round, was a seven-year man and graduate transfer (already completed his studies and graduated, to be specific) and went to four different schools. If not for this year at Missouri, where he finally got to show off what he was capable of, he's likely a UDFA. Redshirt seniors/graduate transfers take either five, six, or even seven years to stay in school, and without those good later years, they likely don't get drafted.
Talent is talent. Some players are late bloomers, and we don't know all the reasons why players transfer and pick the schools to transfer to (and to be honest, it's none of our business to know; that's up to the players).
Okay, now do the other 90% of kids who transfer who barely sniff the NFL or NBA and get no shot or are out of the league in a year. No NFL/NBA, no degree, now what?
A large portion of those "90%" are graduate transfers: they've already completed their studies at a school they've been in, and they have a degree - or more - to fall back on. Another portion of those transfers manage to complete their studies at their new school along with their sports. They know that they won't have a sports career but want to continue playing for as long as they can.
Again, we don't know the reasons why student-athletes transfer. Homesickness, wanting to be closer to family, wanting playing time, wanting to follow a coach they believe in, wanting to get out of a bad situation, etc. Same reason why some students who are just regular people who don't even play sports will move to other colleges, sometimes even multiple times. Do they not have a choice? We do not know why young adults move from school to school, and frankly, despite all of the reasons I gave, it is none of our business to know, unless the young adult specifies it.
And if they struggle and don't have a degree, what makes it our business - or anyone's business aside from theirs, for that matter? They made their own choices willingly, they have consequences, and they were legal adults when they made those choices. What should it matter to you and me? Yes, college people can get specific jobs, but the world has - and frankly needs - workers who make their careers with no college experience. Why should that matter to you and me? It's not our lives; it's theirs.
I do not like that politicians, regardless of party, want to send these students back to the Stone Age they just got out of. It is none of their business, not in their expertise, and they can keep their fat fingers out of sports and "stick to politics".
And aside from that, it sends a dangerous message: what about those students who don't play sports? Are they not allowed to move between schools either? And what of the coaches who aren't fired, but move from school to school for a better job - or a better paying job - and leaving the young men/women they recruited behind without remorse? Are they in that category, too, or is it just the students? And are teachers also part of that category as well? Again, it sets a dangerous precedence and gives a dangerous message to every college campus that is even worse than the free-for-all it is now.
I'm not at all saying that NIL is perfect, but it's infinitely better than what the government wants to do with this executive order - that they have no Constitutional right (because it's been smacked down by the SCOTUS before based on those grounds) or business doing.
fearsomefour
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Its called consequences of choices.
College coaches are liars by trade. They endlessly lie to nearly every kid they recruit.
No one is forcing these kids to go to one school over another or to transfer. No one is forcing a kid to play sports in college or chase a professional career that way less than 1% will ever sniff regardless of talent.
So, are kids manipulated? Yes.
Is it anyone else's issue if they end up without a degree and not playing pro sports? No
Go back to school or get a job.
Do you watch college basketball? There are players that have played for 4 schools in 4 yrs and these are not NBA players. It's a pay for play scheme now and kids just jump from school to school. There is no way these kids have any shot of getting a degree by doing this. And many of these kids come from nothing, where a degree can change their lives. That's my point.
The adults in the NCAA set up rules to help the supposed "student athlete". If they are doing their jobs, they would put guardrails in place to help guide 18, 19 and 20 yr olds to better outcomes.