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Corbin

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He is likley a camp body! Why the hardon for Reeder??? Cool the f#ck out!

I dont get your obsession over a vet camp body. Unreal.
Obviously you have the hard on. You decided to message me regarding it didn’t you?

Then trying to slyly 1960’s style pass the blame off on me. :laugh1:
Your boomer mind tricks don’t work on me.
 

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Obviously you have the hard on. You decided to message me regarding it didn’t you?

Then trying to slyly 1960’s style pass the blame off on me. :laugh1:
Your boomer mind tricks don’t work on me.
I didn't message you...

BTW... some advice... Seek help
 

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Obviously you have the hard on. You decided to message me regarding it didn’t you?

Then trying to slyly 1960’s style pass the blame off on me. :laugh1:
Your boomer mind tricks don’t work on me.
"The Reeder Boomer erection, is the drone you seek... Padawan...Sure of this, I am."
 

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Since you poked the bear.
IF we had Creed Humphrey last year instead of rookie Limmer, would that Philly D-Lineman had a straight shot at Stafford to end our post season?
Maybe or maybe not, but I think not.
Would veteran Humphrey have whiffed on blocking the Philly D-Lineman who ended up stopping Stafford from winning the game last year? I think he would have slowed him down at least, giving Stafford a chance...

Agree Completely but just a couple additional comments ...

'That D-L' was the Best Player on the Eagles' Defense ... and ... no one 'whiffed' ... neither Beau Limmer, nor Keven Dotson EVEN TRIED to block Jalen Carter ... who was right in front of them!

No Games, Blitzes or Stunts. Limmer turned left ... Dotson turned right ... Carter ran straight up-the-middle!

You got to TRY to block the opponent's best player on the most important play of the game ... It's a Rule!

Do you remember when Aaron Donald secured the Lombardi for the Rams by pressuring Joe Burrow on the fourth-and-one-play? The Bengals' Left Guard (Spain) TRIED to block Donald ... he got beaten-like-a-drum but the man Really Tried.
 
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I seriously can’t believe Creed keeps being mentioned. Like move on people. This coming from someone (me)!who was pounding the table for us to draft creed.

We don’t even know if the Rams scouts even like creed - he could have been in their do not draft list or. was a late rounder to them.

It’s weird. Why not complain that we didn’t draft Nico Collin’s, Nick Bolton, ARSB, etc.

Why no constant comments about us not drafting other star players from draft years that we passed on. Maybe if Snead came out and said he wanted Creed and changed his mind last moment or something. Idk. Just weird how 1-2 can’t let that go. Heck we won a superbowl. Like doesn’t that just ease anything. Weird
This is my bitch with the......going on half a decade....Tutu/Humphrey complaining. There are 256 selections made every April. The allotted number is 7 give or take a couple. This year we took 6 guys which leaves 250 possibilities for "why didn't we draft that guy?" And in any year, we don't know how their board was stacked, who they were looking at, what positions of need they felt were strongest, etc. Like you say, "get over it". We could take practically any draft pick the Rams made and point to another player that is perceived to be a better selection. But it really gets ridiculous when it's a comparison of two different positions.
 

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Since you poked the bear.
IF we had Creed Humphrey last year instead of rookie Limmer, would that Philly DLineman of had a straight shot at Stafford to end our post season? *flexes guns
Maybe or maybe not, but I think not.

Would veteran Humphrey have whiffed on blocking the Philly Dlineman who ended up stopping Stafford from winning the game last year? I think he would have slowed him down at least, giving Stafford a chance...
Sure he would have stoned him. That's why Philly didn't sack Mahomes the entire Superbowl! :dizzy:
 

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The #4 receiver with #3 production. :laugh2:

Okay, I didn't actually mention Allen, I said the Rams weren't in the market for a C in 2021. (Why? Because they had Allen.)

No I don't think Shelton or Allen is better than Humphrey. I said, the Rams weren't in the market for a C in 2021. They were in the market for a deep threat and they supplemented that need by drafting Tutu and signing DJax....(who wasn't used enough to his liking so they released him).

And NO, I'm not saying they should have drafted a #3 WR instead of a Pro Bowl center. I said, they weren't in the market for a C. This couldn't be any clearer.

If that's circular, I'm sorry.

Yes, I was busting on Ram fans for crying (for years) about Tutu over Humphrey. And yes, there's been a knot in some Rams fans shorts about Tutu since 2021, no matter what he does. They've "revamped their drafting strategy since drafting Tutu"? How? Did we draft a Pro Bowl center? I think the FACT they signed him to a 10 mil dollar deal says all there needs to be said about "revamping since drafting Tutu".

BTW, I don't know that Creed could have blocked Carter. In the Superbowl every time he blocked him it was a double team. And oddly enough, Carter was his guy only 4 or 5 times in pass pro (double teamed though). He had him about 4 or 5 times on run plays (double teamed again). There was a lot of times Creed was standing in the middle of the field as the other 4 guys were blocking D lineman. Hey, if I were calling the blocking assignments, I would make sure I had help if it was Carter I was blocking or I'd assign somebody else to block him. So I will say this.....in addition to being a Pro Bowl center, Creed is also a pretty smart guy. :laugh1:
Limmer was one on one with Carter and turned the wrong way. Creed wouldn’t have done that. Part of being a great center is actually making the right calls.

By 2021 Allen was useless. His knee was shot and Shelton was a backup promoted to starter. Center was a need.

Revamping their drafting happened a year or two after that draft, I didn’t say it was all about Tutu, but passing on a top player in favor of a backup was a poor choice. Snead was trained under Dimitroff, who was always a ‘needs based’ drafter. If I have a potential all pro center in front of me and an undersized deep threat, I’m picking the best player. Deep threat receivers aren’t hard to find in the draft. Plus it wasn’t a need because they already signed DeSean Jackson, as you stated.

I think the criticism is valid and completely justified. Creed being at the top of his position and Tutu not close to the top of his justifies the criticism. But, at this point I rarely see it anymore unless someone brings it up to disparage those lamenting that second round pick.
 

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This is my bitch with the......going on half a decade....Tutu/Humphrey complaining. There are 256 selections made every April. The allotted number is 7 give or take a couple. This year we took 6 guys which leaves 250 possibilities for "why didn't we draft that guy?" And in any year, we don't know how their board was stacked, who they were looking at, what positions of need they felt were strongest, etc. Like you say, "get over it". We could take practically any draft pick the Rams made and point to another player that is perceived to be a better selection. But it really gets ridiculous when it's a comparison of two different positions.

So you loved all of Billy Devanney’s picks and never questioned them?

In the last two drafts Snead has been doing very well and I don’t see the criticism often now, even though there are a few players or positions that some fans felt needed addressed. But questioning GMs choices in general is not taboo, just like questioning coaching decisions. None of these NFL staffs are infallible. Some are actually bad at their jobs. Fans invest enough of themselves into their team to earn the right to complain. If they didn’t care why would they follow it so closely?
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZgOJtzJE48


How much did Creed help Mahomes in the SB loss to Philly? Made some really nice calls there, eh?

By 2021 Allen was done? Note the starting lineup in SB56


Note the number of snaps Allen had in SB56

 

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Fans invest enough of themselves into their team to earn the right to complain.
I never got this idea. Nobody is twisting your arm.

As far as how somebody knows this is a bad decision, that is a good decision on draft selections, nobody has as much information available to them as management. Can you complain? Sure. If that's how you get your rocks off, go for it.

I knew a guy who used to complain that, "I've invested X amount of dollars on Rams gear, Rams tickets, going to the bar to watch the games, so I have every right to complain. They owe it to me."

No, they don't owe you shit. They are doing what they do to make a living. You are using it as a form of entertainment.
 

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZgOJtzJE48


How much did Creed help Mahomes in the SB loss to Philly? Made some really nice calls there, eh?

By 2021 Allen was done? Note the starting lineup in SB56


Note the number of snaps Allen had in SB56


Allen’s knee had been a problem for a few years. How can you say center was not a need?
 

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Allen’s knee had been a problem for a few years. How can you say center was not a need?
I never said C wasn't a "need". I said, "they chose to go another direction". But they didn't draft Humphrey, rolled with Allen and WON THE SUPERBOWL. Would Creed have helped the OL in 2022? Maybe. Or maybe it would have been a season of games just like SB59.

There are multiple needs EVERY year and they fill what they can however they can fill them. Some of them don't get filled. But fans know more. They know each and every one of them should have been filled dammit. I invest a lot of my time and I deserve better!
 
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I never got this idea. Nobody is twisting your arm.

As far as how somebody knows this is a bad decision, that is a good decision on draft selections, nobody has as much information available to them as management. Can you complain? Sure. If that's how you get your rocks off, go for it.

I knew a guy who used to complain that, "I've invested X amount of dollars on Rams gear, Rams tickets, going to the bar to watch the games, so I have every right to complain. They owe it to me."

No, they don't owe you shit. They are doing what they do to make a living. You are using it as a form of entertainment.

Well, the fans were right to complain about that pick. The Rams got it wrong.

If you don’t like questioning the calls of the team then don’t. There are times during games that I question McVay’s calls on the field. If I have to watch a game or follow a draft and am not allowed to have an opinion on any of it, then why would I care to watch it. I might as well be bird watching. Part of the fun of following sports is being emotionally invested and having opinions about what is going on. If I cannot, or am not permitted to, get disappointed over a trade or draft pick then I also am not allowed to get excited over a trade or draft pick either. You can’t enjoy sports with complete complacency and I cant just be Mary-go-lightly and be happy about everything my team does. Could you imagine being a Browns fan or a Pirates fan and never questioning the teams decisions?
 

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Because they didn't draft Humphrey, rolled with Allen and WON THE SUPERBOWL. Would Creed have helped the OL in 2022? Maybe. Or maybe it would have been a season of games just like SB59.

There are multiple needs EVERY year and they fill what they can however they can fill them. Some of them don't get filled. But fans know more. They know each and every one of them should have been filled dammit. I invest a lot of my time and I deserve better!
The draft is about the future. They also fill needs in free agency, which they already did when they signed DeSean Jackson. Center was a more pressing need.
 

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Well, the fans were right to complain about that pick. The Rams got it wrong.

If you don’t like questioning the calls of the team then don’t. There are times during games that I question McVay’s calls on the field. If I have to watch a game or follow a draft and am not allowed to have an opinion on any of it, then why would I care to watch it. I might as well be bird watching. Part of the fun of following sports is being emotionally invested and having opinions about what is going on. If I cannot, or am not permitted to, get disappointed over a trade or draft pick then I also am not allowed to get excited over a trade or draft pick either. You can’t enjoy sports with complete complacency and I cant just be Mary-go-lightly and be happy about everything my team does. Could you imagine being a Browns fan or a Pirates fan and never questioning the teams decisions?
You're allowed to do whatever you want. I question calls during the game too. Everybody has an opinion. Everybody can express their opinions. I'm not a Mary-go-lightly (nice btw). I'm not happy about everything my team does. If I were a Browns fan or a Pirates fan, I find another team. I grew up in NJ and had my choice to follow/be a diehard fan of the Eagles, Giants or Jets like the majority of fans in the area. I chose the Rams. Hmmmm.
The draft is about the future. They also fill needs in free agency, which they already did when they signed DeSean Jackson. Center was a more pressing need.
In this day and age? The draft used to be about the future back when NFL teams controlled players for as long as they needed them. That's not today's NFL. It's about the NOW. Head coaches get, on average 3 years to build a winner or they're out the door. The Rams didn't invent the term "All In" but they made it popular because of their success.

If you notice when it comes to needs, many teams will target a need from multiple directions. Draft a deep threat. Sign a free agent deep threat. It increases their chances of filling that need. And the Rams, from 2017-2023 didn't have a first round pick to make "on the future". So they did the best they could and IMHO, they did pretty fooking good. Center was the more pressing need? And yet they didn't draft one or sign one, went on the win the Superbowl, made the playoffs two of the last 3 years, coming within 15 yards of going back to the Superbowl, are one of the few favorites for the Superbowl this year but boy, didn't they fook up by not taking a C back in 2021.

Unreal.
 

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Because there is no point to having him as a camp body. Might as well bring back Rozeboom while we are at it.
The coaches trust him and he knows the defense.
Getting guys lined up correctly.
This is very valuable to coaches. With a lot of new faces and young players on D, it makes sense from that angle. Same with the resigning of Tutu. I think the team has designs on him being more involved in the offense, but, him knowing all of the receiving spots in the offense has value with new/young receivers.
There is more to player selection than stats.
If Reeder doesn't make the 53....and I don't think he will....he will still have a role on the PS if he doesn't get picked up.
It is sort of likely he will get picked up off of the PS.
He is a LB with 6 years or so NFL experience, including playoff games and a Championship.
I think the Rams keep in on the PS until someone nabs him due to injuries/depth concerns.
 

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I think it’s obvious that Shelton was brought back to start as soon as they signed him.
McVay has said he is excited about the Shelton signing because he believes, while Limmer played well when forced into action, Shelton will provide a lot more continuity blocking up front with line calls etc.
Stafford was making most of the line calls on pass blocking and there were communication issues.
 

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That was 2022. Allen was able to start 19-of-20 games (including playoffs) in the Lombardi season of 2021.
But he had already had his knee drained in previous seasons, and he was not playing at an elite level by any means. His run blocking was never good.