Edwards to Continue to Start after Noteboom's Return

[Soul Surfer]

Thank goodness Boni is looking at the offensive line too closely.

To me he is obviously the most well-informed poster on here.

 

[Soul Surfer]

we've already seen him block in the nfl as a LT. he was flawless.

Did you forget your blue font?

I don't know if Noteboom was flawless but he looked like he could definitely play left tackle to me.

 

[Merlin]

I just don't trust Noteboom. Not with the health of our QB in that LT role. So I'm of the mind that the Rams will target that early 2nd to late 1st round range to find a LT they like in this next draft.

But Kromer just proved a lot of folks wrong this season (including myself) by salvaging Corbett and getting solid Center play out of Blythe and may do that again next year.

Long way to go though before we get into the draft of course. Isn't that nice?

 

[OldSchool]

I just don't trust Noteboom. Not with the health of our QB in that LT role. So I'm of the mind that the Rams will target that early 2nd to late 1st round range to find a LT they like in this next draft.

But Kromer just proved a lot of folks wrong this season (including myself) by salvaging Corbett and getting solid Center play out of Blythe and may do that again next year.

Long way to go though before we get into the draft of course. Isn't that nice?

You don’t trust him because you’re focusing on his LG play and ignoring what we’ve seen from him at LT which was very good.

 

[Merlin]

You don’t trust him because you’re focusing on his LG play and ignoring what we’ve seen from him at LT which was very good.

I don't trust his strength OS. Thing about the NFL is sometimes a weakness isn't felt until teams know about it. Then it's a fuckin onslaught with everyone gameplanning for it. He is just not a very strong dude, he does have good feet and I understand why they see him there at LT but you gotta have enough lead in your ass at this level.

So for me that unknown plus the risk of our QB getting mauled from his blindside is a concern. But like I said, I was proved wrong this year so...

 

[OldSchool]

I don't trust his strength OS. Thing about the NFL is sometimes a weakness isn't felt until teams know about it. Then it's a fuckin onslaught with everyone gameplanning for it. He is just not a very strong dude, he does have good feet and I understand why they see him there at LT but you gotta have enough lead in your ass at this level.

So for me that unknown plus the risk of our QB getting mauled from his blindside is a concern. But like I said, I was proved wrong this year so...

And none of us know if he can be a long term answer at LT but you can’t deny in his limited time there he did well. For all we know they draft a LT next year and we never see him as the starter. I said after he got injured this year his continuing injury issues has worn on me. But he did well in his shot at LT, I won’t deny that.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

And none of us know if he can be a long term answer at LT but you can’t deny in his limited time there he did well. For all we know they draft a LT next year and we never see him as the starter. I said after he got injured this year his continuing injury issues has worn on me. But he did well in his shot at LT, I won’t deny that.

we've already seen him block in the nfl as a LT. he was flawless

Agree 100%.....thus far it sure looks like he was another late 3rd-day draft steal like Jordan Fuller. OT Tremayne Anchrum came to us by Sneadway with so many real big NCAA games & Championships on his resume but so very short in size. Wonder who else came to us being way too short??

Just how many 6-1 7/8ths 315lbs OT's is there starting in the NFL? He was one of the best players on Clemson’s Championship elite offensive line. Pats starting LT Wynn is 6-2 3/4's @ 310lbs. But one item to note in TA's favor is he has longer arms than Wynn. TA is also much stronger. TA played all 11 gms his freshman season starting several of them. He then started the next 3 seasons & started 44 gms. The issue for TA is his lack of experience playing OG.

Kromer from all known written information likes shorty TA playing on the LEFT side @ LT & some LG. Another example of taking a starting college RT & flipping them to the left side like Edwards. Its only opinion but it's my belief that Anchrum is & will be Kromer's top Reserve Swing OG from this season's bye & well into the future.

I would not consider Noteboom a good game day four post reserve. Noteboom is not made of NFL OG material. Noteboom would be a good Swing OT reserve. But Kromer already has a true RT reserve in Bobby Evans. Better for the Rams future if Noteboom sticks to working just one post....LT! The top back up reserve center is Coleman Shelton. Brian Allen looks like trade bait to catch 2021 3rd day draft selection to me. Shelton is a very capable versatile OL'er who started all five OL posts in college. Kromer also has two interior OL'ers Cabral & Kolone who are centers signed on the Practice Squad.
Best OL depth in many decades!
Then I would suggest that all efforts be made to PRESERVE & maintain the current soon to be 39 yr old Andrew Whitworth as best as possible. Wearing him out with 100% of the offensive snaps when this team has two young LT reserves {Noteboom & Evans} active seems not smart. LT Noteboom needs to begin to see some LT snaps from this point on. Increasing his LT snaps in games where the Rams are in front & maximum amount of running the ball is required. The long term payoff dividends might be HUGE!
The rookie LT Noteboom did get offensive snaps in the regular season & yes Noteboom performed without any mishaps or issues. His 2018 rookie preseason was also sound. Why would we think that the Noteboom 2020 LT version would not be as good?

I wonder who has the top-performing run blocking OL?

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Noteboom was very good subbing for Whitworth at LT. No blue font needed.

Anyone touting Noteboom flawless limited time at Left tackle has to remember it was in garbage time at the end of games that were well in hand. I didn't see him face one serious test from a pass rusher in that instance.

What I have seen of him at guard is that he struggles to hold a block, loses balance while blocking, and sucks hitting targets on the move. How can these things miraculously improve by moving him to OLT? He's not a rookie.

And @Bonifay I hope when the day comes that the Rams finally make a switch at center that its not anyone currently on their depth chart at center. Ditto for OLT.

 

[BonifayRam]

Putting an unproved Evans in at left tackle with Goff at quarterback would make me very nervous.

I could see going with Evans if we're blowing somebody out in the game and they go to our second string quarterback but I would be more at ease if Noteboom was getting those live reps to possibly get him ready for next year.

I'm going to be really interested to see who the game day actives on offensive line are.

I agree that Noteboom is not a guard but we know he can play it to a certain standard.

Then we need a center-guard type active as well.

I still somehow see Austin Corbett as a future Center if they don't re-sign Blythe.

Shelton is a little light in the ass, IMO

Could you imagine our run blocking if we had;

Whitworth / Noteboom LT
David Edwards LG
Austin Corbett C
Bobby Evans RG
Rob Havenstein RT

Of course, I'm looking ahead to next year possibly.

I am always looking forward to!

But I am so excited over this OL & it's run blocking overall improvement. I just can't stand it when Goff goes on a passing binge. After last year's catastrophe for a Ram fan like me, it just does not get much better. I not desiring too much change here. If it were up to me Soul Surfer I would make keeping building on our 10 to 11 player OL unit just like it is for 2021. One reason why I am pushing for Noteboom to start getting some snaps @ LT to preserve well seasoned AW @ 39 to 40 yrs old 2021 season.

Rams need to invest their few 2021 draft selections on Edge Rushers/ corners & a pass-rushing DT. Use the salary cap to keep this OL intact. That even means signing Blythe back for 2021 if there are no funds for improvement plus be prepared to keep either Corbett or Noteboom in 2022.

 

[OldSchool]

The real interesting name will be Anchrum. He as we know took the LT snaps and takes them when Whitworth has practice days off. Do McVay and Kromer see him as a LT? He's not your prototype sized LT but stranger things have happened. It could just be them getting him snaps and practice or maybe they like what they see there.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Of course Whit will return!! Rams can't afford to lose him and have no way to replace him at anywhere near his cost. And his leadership of the Oline can't be replaced at any cost.

God bless Andrew Whitworth!
(He most definitely did, by the way)
Wentworth is an amazing specimen in his abilities at this age but sometimes fall off can happen quickly.

A big fall off is similar to the danger that Merlin is discussing.
That's also the danger I worry about with having Bobby Evans as a game-day active as an unknown.

To me, left tackle is obviously the thing we need to spend the majority of our scouting on.

I remember our pre Whitworth days and they were not pretty.

Second would still be inside linebacker to me.

A true thumper for first and second downs that could also cover a tight end competently.

 

[BonifayRam]

........................................I worry about with having Bobby Evans as a game-day active as an unknown. To me, left tackle is obviously the thing we need to spend the majority of our scouting on.

Snead has only 2nd & 3rd-day selections in 2021. Snead used his highest 2018 draft pick a 2nd-day 3rd rd pick (89th) on a pure left OT (Noteboom) in 2018. The following draft 2019 Rams again utilized another 2nd-day selection 3rd rd (97th overall) on another starting LT Bobby Evans. Here nearly midseason 2020, (like you stated) we still do not know if we have a capable starting LT between those two. Even if Noteboom does fulfill their expectations in 2021 you get one out of four yrs dividend in return. Noteboom is UFA after next season.

The time it takes to get a 2nd day drafted LT's fully developed in just 3 or 4 seasons & they are a very poor investment. It gets worse if you have back to back seasons on the IR too. Cursed! Before shooting into the darkness again for the 3 straight drafts on an LT I would want to know fully what we have in the two previous shootings. Snead got lucky with finding a decent starting OG with a 3rd day draft pick in 2019.. but that was an OG much easier to find.

Snead will get much bigger & much earlier returns on the field to help you win from investing the defensive side of the ball (ER's/ LB/CB DL'ers & safeties). When our team ends up always with less than most of the other NFL teams team's ammo in drafts you better get the best value in return for what little you have with those precious & all-important legal draft tender handed out by the NFL every year. Snead did well going after a seasoned known legit LT with salary cap funds with his Whitworth move did he not? The 9ers neutralized Aaron Donald in wk 6 with a well-seasoned salary cap $$ bought well season LT did they not?

Soul Surfer where am I wrong here? Please if you will help me comprehend a little more into your thoughts here.

 

[Merlin]

The real interesting name will be Anchrum. He as we know took the LT snaps and takes them when Whitworth has practice days off. Do McVay and Kromer see him as a LT? He's not your prototype sized LT but stranger things have happened. It could just be them getting him snaps and practice or maybe they like what they see there.

Kromer was very high on him on a chat he did a few weeks ago. Specifically mentioned his arms and how he's got the reach of a starting LT. He said something along the lines that they hit on the pick, can't remember his exact words.

Still though... Playing LT is a tall order in the NFL. No pun intended lol.

 

[OldSchool]

Kromer was very high on him on a chat he did a few weeks ago. Specifically mentioned his arms and how he's got the reach of a starting LT. He said something along the lines that they hit on the pick, can't remember his exact words.

Still though... Playing LT is a tall order in the NFL. No pun intended lol.

Yeah I think I've heard him mention Anchrum more than some of the starters. Reach is great but yeah he's shorter than most LT's in the league. Loved him in college and in the draft, we'll see what they make of him.

 

[BonifayRam]

Kromer was very high on him on a chat he did a few weeks ago. Specifically mentioned his arms and how he's got the reach of a starting LT. He said something along the lines that they hit on the pick, can't remember his exact words.

Still though... Playing LT is a tall order in the NFL. No pun intended lol.

OT Evans 6-4/312- 34 3/4 inch arms
OT Noteboom 6-5/321- 34 3/8 inch arms
OT Anchrum 6-1 7/8/315- 33 5/8ths inch arms

My thoughts are it would be a mistake to think that Tremayne Anchrum is just a right OT or swing OG prospect solely based on where he played in College. TA may very well be a left side OL'er. More & more blind side pass rushers are moving to smaller shorter lighter quicker tweeners. Is Snead ahead of the game here?
IF Snead did get a legit backup LT/LG prospect late into the last day of the draft........its one very HUGE HIT!

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

The real interesting name will be Anchrum. He as we know took the LT snaps and takes them when Whitworth has practice days off. Do McVay and Kromer see him as a LT? He's not your prototype sized LT but stranger things have happened. It could just be them getting him snaps and practice or maybe they like what they see there.

6'2 314 but agile. He'll be like the OL version of AD.

 

[So Ram]

Looking Too Closely? At what time? When the season plays out? or now? Where & How am I looking at it too closely? Can you possibly clarify? I would be interested in your thoughts.

I agree with your LG David Edwards comment. I was not glad that Noteboom got two starts & all those snaps @ LG. I would have preferred him seeing him get a few snaps @ LT instead when its possible. I would have preferred David Edwards to have continued where he left off last season as a starting OG like he is now.

So your thoughts to @Soul Surfer question as to which of the Rams active OL'ers would be the first OC (Austin Blythe) back up is in line with @OldSchool 's opinion? That would be starting RG Corbett? Rams do not list OL'ers specifically. OL'ers as OL'ers no specifics. I might have missed something from McVay or Kromer where there have been comments that Austin Corbett being the backup center?

I have never seen Austin Corbett playing center or ever snapping the ball in a game ....be it a pre-season or regular season. I have seen Coleman Shelton do both of those. Is the thinking that IF Blythe was unable to play center that Corbett would be the new center & the Kromer would have a new starting RG...two different starting Ol'ers @ new starting positions? I do know that Corbett has been performing very well @ RG. PFF has him graded out overall @ RG @ 71 with zero Penalties & only one sack allowed after 7 games. Not sure who would replace Corbett @ RG. Both Corbett & Havenstein (PFF grade 75.9) have been performing very well together...hard to see Kromer breaking up that duo.

Question for you here.....in the game that OC Brian Allen was injured.... Corbett was a reserve OL'er. When the injury took place, Corbett did not take up the OC position. Blythe was instantly moved into OC & it was Corbett who became a starting OG.

After wk #10 Allen & Havenstein injuries, Kromer went with just two active OL'ers for the rest of the 2019 season. Those two were Chandler Brewer & Coleman Shelton. OG Jamil Demby was on the master roster but never active after wk #6. Who was the backup reserve center after wk#10 in 2019?

Shelton started 50 gms for Washington. He was the starting center for his last two seasons & started 26 gms & well known left-handed center. When Shelton was drafted by the 9ers he was drafted as an OC. When the Cards signed Shelton he was listed on the roster as a center. As a Cardinal, he started & played center in the 2019 preseason.

I guess my Oldschool Reference was the game. The Rams only had 2 backup offensive lineman.
Shelton Coleman who clearly imo is the backup center & guard. Just as your stating from above & last season.

TA looks to be the backup LT of all things which seems a little scary? I really can’t predict much else right now because there is not a lot of solid proof.
Evans got hurt early in the year,if Noteboom is healthy he will for sure be put in at LG & LT. Edwards would probably move ove to RG if needed? He was the starter after the 10th.
I thought Noteboom would have been on IR,so having him start at LG when everyone wants to talk crap about him is all fair. I’m not the one to question except imo,those reps were valuable.
If you want to question the injury or anything else that is fair as well.never good to see a player get hurt.Imo again I like the growth of David Edwards & was thinking he was better at RG & liked Austin Corbett play at LG. He looks good at RG as well.
-Like I said I think your looking to far into right now which is fair. It will all play itself out.

—Have never been a Brian Allen fan,but tried to stay positive.He looks like a wasted pick & never understood it. TA I lost a couple Rod $$$ on The Rams not drafting a Lineman. Hind site says I glad I lost.

 

[So Ram]

Putting an unproved Evans in at left tackle with Goff at quarterback would make me very nervous.

I could see going with Evans if we're blowing somebody out in the game and they go to our second string quarterback but I would be more at ease if Noteboom was getting those live reps to possibly get him ready for next year.

I'm going to be really interested to see who the game day actives on offensive line are.

I agree that Noteboom is not a guard but we know he can play it to a certain standard.

Then we need a center-guard type active as well.

I still somehow see Austin Corbett as a future Center if they don't re-sign Blythe.

Shelton is a little light in the ass, IMO

Could you imagine our run blocking if we had;

Whitworth / Noteboom LT
David Edwards LG
Austin Corbett C
Bobby Evans RG
Rob Havenstein RT

Of course, I'm looking ahead to next year possibly.

Don’t see that ever happening.Far fetched right now. Like playing the lottery. Just picking numbers.

 

[So Ram]

OT Evans 6-4/312- 34 3/4 inch arms
OT Noteboom 6-5/321- 34 3/8 inch arms
OT Anchrum 6-1 7/8/315- 33 5/8ths inch arms

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My thoughts are it would be a mistake to think that Tremayne Anchrum is just a right OT or swing OG prospect solely based on where he played in College. TA may very well be a left side OL'er. More & more blind side pass rushers are moving to smaller shorter lighter quicker tweeners. Is Snead ahead of the game here?
IF Snead did get a legit backup LT/LG prospect late into the last day of the draft........its one very HUGE HIT!

Here you go. Like I said about Oldschools point. I’m not one to look back a game day rosters. Now I will be.
Shelton, & TA are the only game day Offensive Lineman. Now you know what Kromer meant about TA playing LT.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I am always looking forward to!

But I am so excited over this OL & it's run blocking overall improvement. I just can't stand it when Goff goes on a passing binge. After last year's catastrophe for a Ram fan like me, it just does not get much better. I not desiring too much change here. If it were up to me Soul Surfer I would make keeping building on our 10 to 11 player OL unit just like it is for 2021. One reason why I am pushing for Noteboom to start getting some snaps @ LT to preserve well seasoned AW @ 39 to 40 yrs old 2021 season.

Rams need to invest their few 2021 draft selections on Edge Rushers/ corners & a pass-rushing DT. Use the salary cap to keep this OL intact. That even means signing Blythe back for 2021 if there are no funds for improvement plus be prepared to keep either Corbett or Noteboom in 2022.

I'll be hoping for a very fast ilb with their first pick in round 2. That pretty much guarantees they won't go that route.

 

[So Ram]

I don't know if Noteboom was flawless but he looked like he could definitely play left tackle to me.

So Bonifay’d is looking at who exactly?

When Noteboom comes back,what will the lineup look like? Each week will tell it’s own story. I’ll help keep this post alive then & look at this more closely myself then.

I’ll predict the offensive line stays healthy in 2020. Yes - Austin Blythe is still underrated. Man Whitworth just said 2 weeks ago the Offensive Line will only get better. Big Whit keeps making the most mistakes.

That 12 man false start was BS. The hold on Corbett as well against the 9ers.