Edwards-Allen-Blythe (E-A-B)

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from antoher board:

He [edit: Edwards] did ok today, considering it was his first start and he is a rookie he did exceptional. I know a lot of guys on this board are going to disagree but if we get a quality replacement for Blythe who is having an uncharacteristically bad year our line will be ok, Allen is not the problem he is young and I see improvement every game. Allen is extremely quick and gets to the second level as fast as any center I have seen, he gets in trouble when defenses go into the 6-1 and disguise the stunts. If you give him two quality guards he will be a fan favorite.

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I m clueless about centers... so if LA LEnny is right about Allen that would make the 2020 Rams offense good--because I think Edwards and Evans will be good at guard (though Edwards might be at LT??). IF Noteboom makes it back, we will have three college LTs on our our, and that will make for great pass blocking....plus Evans and Edwards are good in teh run game, and that leaves Noteboom as the weak run-block link....which he will be 'avg' as a LT, I believe.

I still hope the Rams draft a "LT", or, even just a tackle in the 2nd round in 2020...insurance.

Blythe has everything you want at guard, except for bulk and long arms. His ankle is probably still bothering him too (Whit injury comment--or that was about Hv?)
 

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Don't know why, but it just felt better to have that big body in there as opposed to Noteboom.
He is much bigger, right? He plays bigger too. But, Noteboom is 325....so, that ain't small. I think the intensity thing is hugely different between the two of them. Edwards looked mentally correct most of the time (thorugh the 1st half) to me...and in the run game he was bringing some wood very consistently.
 

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I'm rewatching the game right now, and I thought Edwards played excellently in the first half. There was only one time where he was blocking his guy and doing it well, when a blitzer slipped by him. He and Whit were like twin mountains on the left side. As for Noteboom, it has been repeatedly said that he is our LT and not our LG. They are different positions that require different capabilities. Edwards may very well be better than Boom at LG, because he looks damn good to me!
 

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I'm rewatching the game right now, and I thought Edwards played excellently in the first half. There was only one time where he was blocking his guy and doing it well, when a blitzer slipped by him. He and Whit were like twin mountains on the left side. As for Noteboom, it has been repeatedly said that he is our LT and not our LG. They are different positions that require different capabilities. Edwards may very well be better than Boom at LG, because he looks damn good to me!
NOW, someone is talking sense.
Thanks...waited since summer to hear someone say all that!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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How many holes did he open in the run game? I didn't see many. The pass blocking was better but it felt like the Rams kept in an extra man or two
 

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How many holes did he open in the run game? I didn't see many. The pass blocking was better but it felt like the Rams kept in an extra man or two

ATL has a very good run defense. It's the pass defense that is killing them.
 

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Watching the game short now and Edwards did some REALLY nice work. He was the catalyst for Everett's TD. He got the the second level and manhandled the LB on that play. I know the Falcons are a dumpster fire, but I felt comfortable with Big Dave in the lineup.....
 

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I think with rookies it's just consistency. Can Edwards do it game in and game out against different skill levels and fronts.

Maybe someone more knowledgable than me can address this but that seems to be Allen's problem. He'll have some good plays and then have a few just absolute whiffs. He seems like he has a lot of potential but needs to be more consistent.
 

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I fear we're stuck with Blythe the rest of the year, just like with Allen he's our best option for the remainder of the schedule. And Blythe is also the sole vet in the interior.

Looks like Kromer is positioning Evans to maybe take over the depth/swing role too. Which bears watching... Sure would be nice to know that Evans is going to be able to compete a bit next offseason with Boom at LT. IMO that's important because they don't really have the picks now to go up high and get a LT.
 

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I just rewatched the game. Blythe is absolutely awful. He is a total waste as a run blocker. Edwards is better than him already.
 

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I just rewatched the game. Blythe is absolutely awful. He is a total waste as a run blocker. Edwards is better than him already.

Yea, I'm wondering if Blythe is still starting in the 2nd half of the season.

I keep seeing him miss assignments that have little to do with his size or strength. You can't have a guard being both undersized and lacking strength miss simple blocking assignments.

The hook has to be getting shorter for Blythe. Kromer and company surely must have a plan B after the BYE should Blythe look more of the same.

Austin Corbett might not be any better but until we see him get some live game snaps, we only have what he did as a Cleveland Brown to go off of.

Austin Blythe 6'2 298 lbs (arms 30 1/8')
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Austin Corbett 6'4 306 lbs (arms 33 1/4')
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Yea, I'm wondering if Blythe is still starting in the 2nd half of the season.

I keep seeing him miss assignments that have little to do with his size or strength. You can't have a guard being both undersized and lacking strength miss simple blocking assignments.

The hook has to be getting shorter for Blythe. Kromer and company surely must have a plan B after the BYE should Blythe look more of the same.

Austin Corbett might not be any better but until we see him get some live game snaps, we only have what he did as a Cleveland Brown to go off of.

Austin Blythe 6'2 298 lbs (arms 30 1/8')
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Austin Corbett 6'4 306 lbs (arms 33 1/4')
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Hey, I'll be the first to throw criticism of a player but I think we have to see what he looks like after the bye before completely trashing him. Just cause he's back from the ankle injury doesn't necessarily mean that he's healed from it and I think that might be an issue. It does seem like his lateral quickness has been compromised.
 

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Seeing Bobby Evans finally active & getting a short period of time @ LT finally gives me a crumb as to what might be going on behind the Kromer curtain. I was wondering who was getting the LT reps for Whitworth rest days in practice now that Edwards has been upgraded to starter. As I was thinking Bobby Evans is far more OT than OG.

Demby was inactive for the first time this season ??? What's trending there?

Do you think that Evans is our Swing OT- Corbett will be our Swing OG- Shelton OC will be the main three reserve OL'ers.
 

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I think with rookies it's just consistency. Can Edwards do it game in and game out against different skill levels and fronts.

Maybe someone more knowledgable than me can address this but that seems to be Allen's problem. He'll have some good plays and then have a few just absolute whiffs. He seems like he has a lot of potential but needs to be more consistent.

I see Allen's issues like Saffold's. If he has competent people next to him he does better. Allen had a better game, especially dealing with stuff to his left because Edwards was much better than Demby and so Allen wasn't mentally scrambling all game. That said, whether it be Blythe's ankle, strength or what, Allen is struggling more against stuff to his right.

Also, someone got this wrong because Vic Beasley IS a speed rusher. If you look at Atlanta's DL, it looks like they're running a hybrid 3-4 just by looking at the bodies because Beasley is like 245 as compared to the rest which are big bodies and at least 30 lbs heavier. And Hav had a MUCH better game. We didn't hear Beasley's name called once.

I dunno what what problem was or what the change was, but the OL was improved on Sunday. Not perfect, but improved. More importantly, it seems that it was improved in a way that can be sustained and improved upon further which is good news going forward...

I think Hav isn't looking forward to Khalil Mack in a few weeks, but that Bears offense is gonna make that game a 9-6 Rams win...
 

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Edwards definitely looks promising in fact he may end up being an upgrade at LG over Noteboom.

With Demby out of the lineup (hopefully he never sees the field again this year) Blythe is now the weakest link with Allen right behind. With Allen being a first year starter his struggles are more understandable but I have not seen enough from Allen that makes me feel good about him being the long-term solution at center either. Blythe might be playing hurt but he is a vet and a pending FA so unless he can pick up his play he is clarifying the perception that he is not a long term answer at RG and maybe not even the short term answer.

Atlanta has a decent defensive front but with only 5 sacks this season they clearly are not a powerhouse either. This line still struggled in spite of the win. This team needs to go on a run to make the playoffs and the offensive line is the key to any postseason hopes. I hope that they can improve and knowing that O-lines take time to become cohesive units I am not writing them of yet but they are currently playing several notches below how they need to play for this team to legitimately contend for a Super Bowl.
 

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I see Allen's issues like Saffold's. If he has competent people next to him he does better. Allen had a better game, especially dealing with stuff to his left because Edwards was much better than Demby and so Allen wasn't mentally scrambling all game. That said, whether it be Blythe's ankle, strength or what, Allen is struggling more against stuff to his right.

Also, someone got this wrong because Vic Beasley IS a speed rusher. If you look at Atlanta's DL, it looks like they're running a hybrid 3-4 just by looking at the bodies because Beasley is like 245 as compared to the rest which are big bodies and at least 30 lbs heavier. And Hav had a MUCH better game. We didn't hear Beasley's name called once.

I dunno what what problem was or what the change was, but the OL was improved on Sunday. Not perfect, but improved. More importantly, it seems that it was improved in a way that can be sustained and improved upon further which is good news going forward...

I think Hav isn't looking forward to Khalil Mack in a few weeks, but that Bears offense is gonna make that game a 9-6 Rams win...

The way the Bears are going I bet Mack probably wishes he was still with the Raiders. Especially since they marched over 90 yards against that “vaunted” defense a couple of weeks back to beat them.