Early Thoughts on NFL Draft

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Dane Brugler said NFL people say Tyler Warren won’t go inside the top 20.

Main points being he’s a Tight End and he’s not Brock Bowers.
But 56% of Warrens yards came after contact. He’s tough and will block.

He has Loveland closely rated, but calls him a big WR with speed. Won’t block much.
 

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Dane Brugler said NFL people say Tyler Warren won’t go inside the top 20.

Main points being he’s a Tight End and he’s not Brock Bowers.
But 56% of Warrens yards came after contact. He’s tough and will block.

He has Loveland closely rated, but calls him a big WR with speed. Won’t block much.
Understandable.

Premium picks for premium positions.
 

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Dane Brugler said NFL people say Tyler Warren won’t go inside the top 20.

Main points being he’s a Tight End and he’s not Brock Bowers.
But 56% of Warrens yards came after contact. He’s tough and will block.

He has Loveland closely rated, but calls him a big WR with speed. Won’t block much.
oooh... I'm salivating.
If he's there at #26... or even #24...
If he falls to us, it's the same sitch as V8 falling to us. Get him.
 

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I've yet to see a list of Rams predraft meetings other than a few people saying they've met with them like Bhayshul Tuten and a few others at the Senior Bowl.



Two good sources for visits.
 

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Honestly his running style reminds me a lot of KW he doesn't go down at first contact almost ever which is rare for a guy with this kind of speed. There's a lot of hard running and there's also a lot of runs from say 25 yards out where KW or Corum get 10-15 and we have a 1st and goal but Tuten gets in the end zone. Yes competition yes college but he's got the speed seems to have the contact balance and I really like this kid.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-32q8DjMgkU&t=377s&ab_channel=ACCDigitalNetwork


Most of his passing game seems to be screens and he does them well though this play here in the above clip is a nice catch behind him on the back shoulder, he's not lined up outside though. I've also seen a couple plays where they line him up wide and do an end around with him. I think in 2 years only had 50 receptions.


View: https://youtu.be/-32q8DjMgkU?t=354

You've sold me on Tuten. He looks like a perfect back for our system. If we extend Kyren though, zero chance we use any pick outside of like 6th round on a RB sadly.

Just spit balling, but, what do people think we could get in a trade for KW? Likely not much since he's on last year of deal and an epic draft class.
 

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I think the big negative on Tuten though by evaluators is his lack of pass blocking. Maybe that’s why he’s not considered higher than other RBs. If so, you’d have to think it’s unlikely the rams go for him. Then again, he’d have a year or two to learn that skill before being needed as a FT back. Early on could be a change of pace occasional speed back guy. I just don’t see them going that direction for him unless it’s a late (6) round pick.
 

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I think the big negative on Tuten though by evaluators is his lack of pass blocking. Maybe that’s why he’s not considered higher than other RBs. If so, you’d have to think it’s unlikely the rams go for him. Then again, he’d have a year or two to learn that skill before being needed as a FT back. Early on could be a change of pace occasional speed back guy. I just don’t see them going that direction for him unless it’s a late (6) round pick.
He's capable of blocking and even did it very well in the Senior Bowl.
 

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Dane Brugler said NFL people say Tyler Warren won’t go inside the top 20.

Main points being he’s a Tight End and he’s not Brock Bowers.
But 56% of Warrens yards came after contact. He’s tough and will block.

He has Loveland closely rated, but calls him a big WR with speed. Won’t block much.
Fingers crossed. Not having a productive threat at TE for about 3/4 of the season hurt.
 

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Fingers crossed. Not having a productive threat at TE for about 3/4 of the season hurt.
Would love to get Michael Mayer from the Raiders for a mid-round pick. I know he hasn't been playing much; Brock Bowers basically stole all of his snaps, and he had a mental health issue. But if he's right, you have yourself a potentially great all-around 6'5" monster who can catch, block, and run with the best of them.

The only issue I have with tight ends is that unless they're Bowers or LaPorta, they're not going to produce immediately. Even Travis Kelce and Greg Olsen didn't produce immediately. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on someone who's a bit older than a draft pick, but has potential and is still young.
 

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Would love to get Michael Mayer from the Raiders for a mid-round pick. I know he hasn't been playing much; Brock Bowers basically stole all of his snaps, and he had a mental health issue. But if he's right, you have yourself a potentially great all-around 6'5" monster who can catch, block, and run with the best of them.

The only issue I have with tight ends is that unless they're Bowers or LaPorta, they're not going to produce immediately. Even Travis Kelce and Greg Olsen didn't produce immediately. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on someone who's a bit older than a draft pick, but has potential and is still young.
Well, there you go invigorating what was a waning outlook on Davis Allen. He just didn’t get the targets I had hoped he would during Higbee’s absence and he missed too many blocks.
Year 3? Allen coming around would be a welcome surprise.
 

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Well, there you go invigorating what was a waning outlook on Davis Allen. He just didn’t get the targets I had hoped he would during Higbee’s absence and he missed too many blocks.
Year 3? Allen coming around would be a welcome surprise.
I think that Allen looks too stiff to be a big time producer at tight end. He moves like a longer awkward high school kid more than he does a great NFL tight end. The Rams need more speed and lateral agility with Allen’s catch radius and hands.
 

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I think that Allen looks too stiff to be a big time producer at tight end. He moves like a longer awkward high school kid more than he does a great NFL tight end. The Rams need more speed and lateral agility with Allen’s catch radius and hands.
That’s what caught my eye when I viewed his highlights—his radius coupled with what appeared to be excellent hands. He showed just that in preseason. He caught everything in his direction.
I was generally excited at the prospect of him being another day 3 Snead sleeper.

…but you’re right, he lacks the agility required at this level to be on his routes more consistently than he’s been. I have noticed a number of throws that just miss being within his reach (comfortably) but looked like a lot of throws to other receivers.
I thought it was Stafford. Then Kupp and Nacua came back and voila, Stafford started looking sharp. Higbee stepped onto the field and the TE position was transformed.

And then there’s the blocking. He’s just not there—yet?

Allen can still be somebody, but stardom probably isn’t in his future…or is it? Momento convinced me. I’m gonna give Allen another camp to show the Rams that between him and the TE they drafted (see what I did there?), they will be in good hands if they want to move Higbee.