Eagles' Carson Wentz fires back at criticism over 'hunting buddy' dog

[RamsSince1969]

One more observation about when I lived in Eastern Oregon. Although everyone hunted, they were the most kind, loving, hardworking, community involved people I have ever met in my life. When I worked on a dairy, they would actually invite all the workers into the owner's home and we would sit at the table, hold hands and say grace! The wife would have this big spread at this large dining room table and we would all each lunch together. It was like something out of the Waltons. I guess what I'm saying is I wish the Peta type people could see the fabric of the Wentz upbringing and the community he grew up in because I'm fairly certain they would walk away with the feeling that they are good people and there is hope for the world when core values are taught by an aging generation and passed onto their children, including hunting. There's just so much more to that dying breed than the hunting. It's what America used to be.

 

[fearsomefour]

Actually,I never said any such thing...and wouldn't

Gotcha.
Reread it.
Got what you were saying this time.

 

[FrantikRam]

No problem with Wentz tweeting this out, and no problem with people having a problem with it either.

Everyone has an opinion on everything when you get right down to it. Quite a few of us only share those opinions with the people closest to us - some people push those opinions on others.

The only part of any of it that bothers me is when the "holier than thou" crowd tries to make you feel like they're living life "SO MUCH" better than you because they care about every little thing.

But IMO social media isn't doing this to our country. It's like anything else - when used effectively, it's an amazing tool. This, what we're doing right now, could be construed as social media.

 

[Mackeyser]

Facebook is for the lonely and Twitter is where irrelevant people go to be relevant....And again the people who communicate about not judging are the first ones to judge...My God I like Wentz even more, but the backlash because he believes in God the Almighty & hunting might just be his undoing....Good for you Mr. Wentz, it's refreshing! Others....Stay in your lane!

Hey! I'm on Twitter!

Oh... point taken...

 

[Mackeyser]

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I will never understand how people get enjoyment from killing other living things for fun.

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Normally, I'd be with you, but that changed as a kid for me. My dad would take us fishing and then would take the bass and trout and simply give them to a family down on their luck. He'd just give them a whole bucket of fresh-caught fish.

And as I started really exploring my Lenape heritage, I really came to appreciate balance and honoring the spirit of the animals that were eaten.

So for hunters who eat what they kill, I take no issue.

Except for wild hogs.

They are essentially Rodents Of Unusual Size that crap a lot more. They all need to die a fiery death.

I'll watch videos of guys using long rifles and scopes to kill them and giggle. Seriously...FREAK wild hogs. Oh, and generally, those hogs go to slaughter and the meat donated and there's a LOT of meat on one 2-300 lb hog!

 

[Mackeyser]

Different culture, that is not less than anyone else's. There is no layer of separation between the reality of killing animals for meat, unlike when most of us buy processed meat by the pound at the supermarket

Actually, if there's a clean shot be it by bow or gun, it's actually more humane for the hunted animal.

The mass butchering process is pretty insane, even with the improvements by folks like Temple Grandin ot make beef processing less cruel.

I respect hunters who take the time to finish a kill if they've clearly wounded an animal, but didn't take it down. A pox on the lazy hunters who won't put in the work and leave a wounded animal to die slowly.

 

[Mackeyser]

If the guy was genuinely concerned about Wentz being criticized, maybe he could have Direct Messaged him to make him aware. Just seems like he was trying to draw attention to it. That's life as we know it today. Everything is a controversy.

I dunno about Wentz's twitter, but a lot of celebrity accounts don't allow for DMs. Usually, they have a personal non-verified account for family/friends/business associates that allow for DMs.

 

[Corbin]

I hate our PC culture. All the trends like the #Metoo bullshit is dumb asf and ALWAYS gets out of hand until the next trend comes. Twitter is dumb asf with the PC police.

I do take issue on people who gun down animals and leave them there. At the very least donate the meat. Plenty of needy families out there. I’m not going to go on someone’s Twitter just to be the PC police tho.

Grow the fuck up. This isn’t junior high school pussies.

 

[RAMBUSH]

Facebook is for the lonely and Twitter is where irrelevant people go to be relevant....And again the people who communicate about not judging are the first ones to judge...My God I like Wentz even more, but the backlash because he believes in God the Almighty & hunting might just be his undoing....Good for you Mr. Wentz, it's refreshing! Others....Stay in your lane!

Damn right coach , cool people hang out on R. O. D . . To Hell with facepage and tweeter.

 

[Mackeyser]

I hate our PC culture. All the trends like the #Metoo bullcrap is dumb asf and ALWAYS gets out of hand until the next trend comes. Twitter is dumb asf with the PC police.

I do take issue on people who gun down animals and leave them there. At the very least donate the meat. Plenty of needy families out there. I’m not going to go on someone’s Twitter just to be the PC police tho.

Grow the freak up. This isn’t junior high school pussies.

Okay, that's way off-topic and gonna get this thread closed.

I will just say this in the spirit of humility and brotherhood. I personally have skin in the #metoo deal. I posted why in another thread, so I won't rehash it.

Part of the problem with either the PC police or any other "belief system" is the adherence of dogma versus listening and learning. We see that in football and in the world at large.

As for donating the meat, I totally agree. My dad taught me that since I was a kid and I couldn't agree more.

 

[Corbin]

Okay, that's way off-topic and gonna get this thread closed.

I will just say this in the spirit of humility and brotherhood. I personally have skin in the #metoo deal. I posted why in another thread, so I won't rehash it.

Part of the problem with either the PC police or any other "belief system" is the adherence of dogma versus listening and learning. We see that in football and in the world at large.

As for donating the meat, I totally agree. My dad taught me that since I was a kid and I couldn't agree more.

Yeah your right, maybe I shouldn’t have been specific and generalized. Not aiming to get the thread closed or derail it.

 

[Loyal]

Actually, if there's a clean shot be it by bow or gun, it's actually more humane for the hunted animal.

The mass butchering process is pretty insane, even with the improvements by folks like Temple Grandin ot make beef processing less cruel.

I respect hunters who take the time to finish a kill if they've clearly wounded an animal, but didn't take it down. A pox on the lazy hunters who won't put in the work and leave a wounded animal to die slowly.

I have always been fascinated with the hunting/subsistence lifestyle of those who really do it. I watch "Life Below Zero" for that reason, because it reveals a resourcefulness in doing all things, but most importantly hunting food. They use great care when killing an animal and have respect for those animals, because each animal gives them life. They use most of the meat, and save the skin to wrap the parts in and often save the skin to prepare/tan it for a resale market to supplement the limited cash they get (mostly bartering happens) for gasoline etc...

To be clear, I'm a city boy. I buy my meat prepared for me. I can shoot and I have some head knowledge about hunting and have books on how to butcher game, but I am literally a coward because I don't want kill anything unless I have to. I realize the benefit of being able to hunt and subsist on this type of food. You know where the food comes from and the path by which that food makes it to your table. it's local to you and not sent on a journey by truck/train in freezer cars. If you live/hunt in the wild areas, far from civilization, you know that the meat is totally natural. It doesn't come from a farm that injects the animal to make it grow larger for profit...and, in other areas it helps keep the population of deer, etc in a healthy balance. Plus, it grounds you and makes you responsible and aware about the realities of life...jmho.

 

[Mackeyser]

When I finally get to Minnesota (however long that takes...thought it might happen fast, but it seems the Good Lord requires me to be patient and faithful... again...), I actually want to hunt.

It blew me away that almost every house we looked at up there had a gun safe.

I'm not a "gun person", but I could see me trying hunting. Love the outdoors and have no problem whatsoever hunting deer. Especially in the northern climes with the removal of apex predators in the area like wolves, deer have become a deadly nuisance.

I mean ask anyone from Montana and the only thing more deadly than deer on the road is heart disease.

 

[nighttrain]

More deer in Iowa now than when the first Colonist arrived....damn car killers everwhere
train

 

[Mackeyser]

We seriously have discussed as a condition of moving getting another Suburban 4x4 because the idea of driving a Minny highway at night and having a fat doe come through the windshield of our Honda Accord hybrid isn't a fun thought...

Seen some pictures of the havoc deer can cause and no thanks. I mean, I've seen pictures of deer going through the windshield of even a raised truck, so there's no guarantees, but my sister lives in Kansas and she's had multiple "deer attacks".

One deer literally kept running alongside her Jeep. She'd slow and it'd slow. She'd speed up and it'd speed up. Then it literally killed itself running in front of her. Craziest thing I'd ever heard (and I live in Florida...)

 

[LesBaker]

Even hatred is fine in speech. The old market place of ideas will sort that out.
People who throw bumper sticker ideas around like (a bumper sticker I saw the other week) "Hate speech is not protected speech"
People with this mentality have no idea about the constitution or bill of rights....either in letter or spirit. Encouraging violence in a real way etc no, basically everything else? Yes.

Hate is fine yes, I think damaging speech or speech that can incite is over the line. I think the term hate speech is broad and could be renamed and redefined to reflect a more meaningful definition. I know it when I here it is fine, I'm that way a lot, but something a little more concrete wouldn't hurt a bit.

but if someone gets caught for dog fighting were outraged...

That's different on many levels.

I'm sure Wentz stcoks his big freezer or gives extras to friends.

I don't know him but I would bet money he has a large feast with family and friends based on how grounded I've heard he is..........however..........fuck the Eagles.

They are essentially Rodents Of Unusual Size that crap a lot more. They all need to die a fiery death.

I'll watch videos of guys using long rifles and scopes to kill them and giggle.

But they are supposed to be tasty.

And don't feel bad about giggling. I sometimes indulge in Apache FLIR footage of ISIS and AQ fighters getting incendiary rounds rained down on them. It's a guilty pleasure.

Here is a sample.........

All the trends like the #Metoo bullcrap is dumb asf

That one is not dumb as fuck, in fact it's important as fuck.

Taking fear away from people who have been mistreated and abused/raped is not dumb as fuck my man.

It's smart as fuck.

More deer in Iowa now than when the first Colonist arrived....damn car killers everwhere
train

Well if you guys would stop growing so much damn corn, a deers favorite food, mebbe you wouldn't have that problem!!

@Mackeyser you can buy these little things to attach to your hyper masculine hybrid that will alert them with sound we can't hear, and they work pretty well. Or pony up for a front mount machine gun like @nighttrain probably has.

 

[Memento]

Normally, I'd be with you, but that changed as a kid for me. My dad would take us fishing and then would take the bass and trout and simply give them to a family down on their luck. He'd just give them a whole bucket of fresh-caught fish.

And as I started really exploring my Lenape heritage, I really came to appreciate balance and honoring the spirit of the animals that were eaten.

So for hunters who eat what they kill, I take no issue.

Except for wild hogs.

They are essentially Rodents Of Unusual Size that crap a lot more. They all need to die a fiery death.

I'll watch videos of guys using long rifles and scopes to kill them and giggle. Seriously...FREAK wild hogs. Oh, and generally, those hogs go to slaughter and the meat donated and there's a LOT of meat on one 2-300 lb hog!

Except javelinas. Those wild pigs are natural animals in the Southwest, and I like them quite a bit.

But wild hogs - especially sows - can get roasted on a spit alive.

 

[-X-]

Twitter is where irrelevant people go to be relevant

Sheeeeeyit. Twitter became relevant when I joined, m'man.

 

[bubbaramfan]

whats the difference between beer nut and deer nuts?

beer nut are 1.50$ and deer nuts are always under a buck.










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[Loyal]

Sheeeeeyit. Twitter became relevant when I joined, m'man.

It's where you learned to be brief, Mr "X, if you're not into the whole brevity thing."