Dumbest playcall ever....

[Zaphod]

Awful. Game was in hand. No doubt PC wanted to prove some kind of point by passing it there. rather than play it safe and run the clock and punch it in. Dumbazz. Why put the ball in the air? Run it 4 times if you have to. aaaauuugggghhhh

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.

It seemed to me like he just really wanted to give Wilson a chance to win that game with a pass.

And it's just sweet justice that they decided to get all cute about it and lost the game.

 

[BriansRams]

Yes yes yes yes yes yes YES!!!!!! Thank you football gods for letting the seahawks get so close to a repeat and then snatch it from them. I HATE the seahawks so much. My wife was looking at me really funny and saying I was mean when after that final interception I yelled at the TV "where's your gum Carroll? where's your gum now!?!? stick your gum up your butt you filthy cheating loser "*ag!"

 

[-X-]

And here's why I don't have a problem with it. Everyone keyed on Lynch even when he peeled out into the flat.
Lockett had a clear path into the endzone (note all the empty space)
The fault lies with Wilson who didn't see the defender (note line of sight arrows)
Or, simply a good play by Butler who watched Wilson's eyes.

 

[Corbin]

Hire him......Our new OC!!! Kidding...I"M KIDDING!!!!

Deja vu.

Shit Schotty would of called that play and half on here wouldn't have had a problem with it because he was the Rsms OC. Funny how it's the Sb and Seahawks and we can point fun at them and defend Schotty's pos ass.

 

[Ramhusker]

I'm not sure what people want me to say here. I've seen enough TD throws from inside the 5 to know they work.
When they don't, it's 100% always a bad call. So I'll go ahead and stick to my guns here.
If that's okay with everyone.

I hear you about pass plays working all the time inside the 5. And for a lot of teams, that's the best option. For me though, when you have a beast in the backfield who has a nose for the endzone and the Superbowl is on the line, I feed that bitch the rock. I think the key here is the down and distance and having a TO and of course the team. 2nd down from 1 screams Lynch for Seattle. Maybe it screams a pass to Gronk for the Pats, a fade to Calvin Johnson in the corner for the Lions, a QB sneak for the Panthers, a bootleg by Peanut head for the 49ers.

 

[PowayRamFan]

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Why didn't they keep a camera on him here? My son and I both thought he was crying, awesome. Sure as hell wasn't looking for someone with a camera after THIS game, big fucking baby.

 

[-X-]

I hear you about pass plays working all the time inside the 5. And for a lot of teams, that's the best option. For me though, when you have a beast in the backfield who has a nose for the endzone and the Superbowl is on the line, I feed that bitch the rock. I think the key here is the down and distance and having a TO and of course the team. 2nd down from 1 screams Lynch for Seattle. Maybe it screams a pass to Gronk for the Pats, a fade to Calvin Johnson in the corner for the Lions, a QB sneak for the Panthers, a bootleg by Peanut head for the 49ers.

Sure, I understand. If it were up to me, I'd run it too.
I just don't have a problem with a different call there, and don't think it was stupid simply because a defender made a good play by reading the QB's eyes.
That's not necessarily a high-risk play for the seahawks considering they don't turn it over much (if at all) in that situation.

 

[-X-]

crap Schotty would of called that play and half on here wouldn't have had a problem with it because he was the Rsms OC.

Yeah, I'll go ahead and call all kinds of bullshit with that.
Maybe 3 people would have defended it, and one of them is defending this one.

 

[Boffo97]

crap Schotty would of called that play and half on here wouldn't have had a problem with it because he was the Rsms OC. Funny how it's the Sb and Seahawks and we can point fun at them and defend Schotty's pos ass.

No, there is nobody here who wouldn't have a problem with it "because he was the Rams OC".

There ARE people who have no problem with it because we legitimately believe it wasn't a bad call, it just didn't work.

That's a bit disrespectful of your Rams brothers to say IMO.

Yeah, I'll go ahead and call all kinds of bullcrap with that.
Maybe 3 people would have defended it, and one of them is defending this one.

Two.

 

[RamzFanz]

I'm not sure what people want me to say here. I've seen enough TD throws from inside the 5 to know they work.
When they don't, it's 100% always a bad call. So I'll go ahead and stick to my guns here.
If that's okay with everyone.

So be it. Just please, if Fisher calls, say no!

 

[-X-]

So be it. Just please, if Fisher calls, say no!

Can't make that promise. I'd give Bradford the ball inside the 10 almost 100% of the time.
I mean....

 

[RaminExile]

You don't have a problem with that call you got something wrong. There's only 1 real way you lose this game and its throwing it. You throw it - you could score, (50% chance?) you could have it incomplete, (30% chance?) you could get sacked, (15 % chance?) you can throw a pick (5% chance?). Or - you run it and you VERY likely score (80%+ chance?), you get stuffed (15-17% chance?) or you fumble (>4% or so chance?!). IT makes no sense to throw it there. I know - ive just plucked those numbers out of thin air - and I know you could say it negates my argument completely, but can you really argue with the fact you've got a much, much better chance of winning the game if you run it there - especially having seen what happened earlier in the season at San Diego when the exact same thing happened?

 

[Ramhusker]

You can't know that.

And if he doesn't, all those fans blaming you as OC for all your team's troubles complain "What?! Of course that didn't work! He played right in the hands of the defense! Can't we get someone in here that can fool a defense?!"

Didn't work ≠ Bad play call.

Right, nobody can predict things perfectly. Maybe Lynch only scores 80 times, maybe 88. Point is that is your high percentage play. If they had ran it and he fumbled, I'd still say that was the right play call. If the pass had resulted in a TD, I'd still say I'd have called a run. Calling a run was the "smart" call for that situation. It was the safest, high percentage of success call. NE could gear up for the run all they wanted. Lynch breaks tackles like a beast. He gets stopped, you have two more shots.

 

[-X-]

You don't have a problem with that call you got something wrong.

Then I got something wrong.

And nobody's debating the odds of success on a play ran from that situation.
A couple of people are *only* arguing that it wasn't a bad call in and of itself.

 

[RaminExile]

And X I get that "pass plays work" inside the 10 - yes they do and can - but you cant deny its a more risky play - that more things can go wrong? And when its the last 30 seconds of a game (the superbowl at that) you don't take the high percentage play there? IF you run it and Lynch doesn't get in, no ones gonna double guess you. It just didn't work. You throw that in for a TD and people would still have a problem with it because it was unnecessarily risky!

 

[Boffo97]

Right, nobody can predict things perfectly. Maybe Lynch only scores 80 times, maybe 88. Point is that is your high percentage play. If they had ran it and he fumbled, I'd still say that was the right play call. If the pass had resulted in a TD, I'd still say I'd have called a run. Calling a run was the "smart" call for that situation. It was the safest, high percentage of success call. NE could gear up for the run all they wanted. Lynch breaks tackles like a beast. He gets stopped, you have two more shots.

Then I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here... and btw, I still disagree with your guess as to how many times out of 100 Lynch scores, especially if the defense knows you're always going to call the safe, predictable play.

43.6% of all statistics on the Internet are made up, after all...

 

[-X-]

And X I get that "pass plays work" inside the 10 - yes they do and can - but you cant deny its a more risky play - that more things can go wrong? And when its the last 30 seconds of a game (the superbowl at that) you don't take the high percentage play there? IF you run it and Lynch doesn't get in, no ones gonna double guess you. It just didn't work. You throw that in for a TD and people would still have a problem with it because it was unnecessarily risky!

Sure it's riskier. 3 things can go wrong with a pass play, only one with a run play (two if you count a stuff and loss of yards).
I disagree that a completion for a TD in that situation would cause people to bemoan the decision, because it never happens.

I'm just not reactionary, dude. I saw the potential, saw it could have been a TD with better decision-making, and don't have a problem with the call itself.

 

[Boffo97]

Sure it's riskier. 3 things can go wrong with a pass play, only one with a run play (two if you count a stuff and loss of yards).
I disagree that a completion for a TD in that situation would cause people to bemoan the decision, because it never happens.

I'm just not reactionary, dude. I saw the potential, saw it could have been a TD with better decision-making, and don't have a problem with the call itself.

When we were debating the San Diego call, it was brought up there was a similar call vs. Dallas, it worked, and no one said a word then.

 

[Ramhusker]

Then I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here... and btw, I still disagree with your guess as to how many times out of 100 Lynch scores, especially if the defense knows you're always going to call the safe, predictable play.

43.6% of all statistics on the Internet are made up, after all...

But the other team doesn't know what you are going to call. They can go with the odds and play run and still not stop a beast of a RB who has a nose for the end zone, especially in a Super Bowl.

 

[Boffo97]

But the other team doesn't know what you are going to call. They can go with the odds and play run and still not stop a beast of a RB who has a nose for the end zone, especially in a Super Bowl.

But you've said 100 times out of 100, you would run Lynch. That kind of predictability WOULD be noticed and played to. That's why an OC *has* to be unpredictable, and why being unpredictable and it not working is not a bad call.

Now, could Lynch score even if the Patriots were totally keyed to the run? Possibly. I don't agree that's 80% though, and the fickle fans will still hate you and say it was a bad call even if it didn't work.