Do we use the franchise tag?

[LACHAMP46]

I wouldn't tag these guys...

 

[OldSchool]

I want them to keep Watkins but that is shocking to me. That they're undecided. I seriously doubt that.

Only way that makes sense is if they're waiting on an answer on their best offer to one or both.

I’m betting talks with both are going on right now and this is just some motivation to get things done.

 

[So Ram]

View: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/970768807999492096

What a couple hours will do ?

Maybe it is best to franchise Sammy ? I’d use the Trans tag myself. The Rams WR are a little young still.

Is there a chance of keeping Tavon if they let Sammy walk ?

 

[So Ram]

I wouldn't tag these guys...

Will see what happens. Is tomorrow really the dead line ? This is getting exciting then, or at least we’ll over due .

 

[OldSchool]

What a couple hours will do ?

Maybe it is best to franchise Sammy ? I’d use the Trans tag myself. The Rams WR are a little young still.

Is there a chance of keeping Tavon if they let Sammy walk ?

I doubt it, Reynolds, a late round pick or a vet on a 1year deal would be better and cheaper than Tavon most likely.

 

[Ramhusker]

If they use the tag, it's Joyner. I'd like to think they could sign him for $8M instead of a $11M tag but why would Joyner sign? He could try and force the tag. That's a gamble of course in case of injury but he could get higher offers too.

 

[Akrasian]

Watkins may be regarded as being tougher to replace but not if it is just as a deep threat. The Rams have two of them on the roster already. But if he leaves it will suck having used a second round pick for one season........suddenly Snead isn't looking as smart as he has lately.

One year of a cheap excellent WR, a sixth rounder, plus a likely third round comp pick for an injury prone CB who didn't fit the new system, and a second rounder.

Sounds a little different, and a lot more fair. If that is a trade to bash Snead for, then you are really looking for reasons to bash him.

 

[Ram_Rally]

I love Snead's aggressiveness when bringing in New players but this laid back stole when addressing home-grown talent is a bit frustrating .

 

[RamFan503]

I’d prefer they don’t use it but for me it’d be Joyner.

 

[MrRiceGuyRJ]

I'm near positive we tag Watkins just because he wants #1 WR money contract, and some team will pay him that if we let him walk, but we don't have to... yet. I say we give him a prove it contract (tag). We already gave up a 2nd round pick for him, no way we let him walk.

 

[nighttrain]

I'm near positive we tag Watkins just because he wants #1 WR money contract, and some team will pay him that if we let him walk, but we don't have to... yet. I say we give him a prove it contract (tag). We already gave up a 2nd round pick for him, no way we let him walk.

if we cant get him any other way, i agree
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[OldSchool]

I'm near positive we tag Watkins just because he wants #1 WR money contract, and some team will pay him that if we let him walk, but we don't have to... yet. I say we give him a prove it contract (tag). We already gave up a 2nd round pick for him, no way we let him walk.

Prove it contract tag at $16 million? He wants that much and the 2nd round ick be damned he can sign somewhere else.

 

[nighttrain]

Prove it contract tag at $16 million? He wants that much and the 2nd round ick be damned he can sign somewhere else.

my idea of a prove it contract is 9-10 mil for 3 years
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[OldSchool]

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/970817145125908480

 

[OldSchool]

my idea of a prove it contract is 9-10 mil for 3 years
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Problem is if you tag him for $16 million good lick getting him to sign for 12 million a year. Just my thoughts on it.

 

[nighttrain]

Problem is if you tag him for $16 million good lick getting him to sign for 12 million a year. Just my thoughts on it.

i dont like the tag either, sign him
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[WestCoastRam]

Sounds like Vinny B is saying on the twitter that negotiations with both are going down to the wire.

He seems to think Watkins market in FA may impede him more from coming back.

What I take from the last part above is that with a guy like Joyner, there's probably not gonna be much disparity between what teams will pay him and what the Rams want to give him. You may still want to use a tag on him to keep all variables at bay though if a contract isn't signed by tomorrow. With Watkins, Rams have a price in their head but if the Rams are stuck franchising Joyner, all it will take is one team to come in above that price and Watkins will be a goner.

Sure, nothing groundbreaking here, but good breadcrumbs anyways.

I can also imagine there are final contracts being sent to the players too today/tomorrow morning now that the NFL has finalized the salary cap for this coming year. I'm sure that has an effect on final edits.

 

[FaulkSF]

Sounds like Snead is using the franchise tag threat solely to get Joyner to sign a deal by leveraging the potential of giving it to Watkins. We should not pay an $8M #2 WR $16M/yr.

I'll also predict that McSnead will announce Donald's deal the day after the third week of the FA period. We'll probably need to lock up some FAs before Donald contract can be front loaded.

 

[Rams43]

I don’t get the quandary.

Joyner at FS was at least semi elite last year. Smart teams don’t lose such players over small salary differences. Moreover, a competitive salary offer would be just a tick less than his tag amount. IOW, why waste a tag over a lousy million or so? Pay him his $10-11 million for 5 years and move on to other players.

Joyner should be happy with something like that considering the security and injury insurance factor versus a 1 year tag. Win-win.

Watkins? Didn’t have anywhere close to a semi elite season. Offer him his $10 million on a one year prove it with encentives. He can take it or leave it. Then both sides can revisit next year when the results are in. Another win-win.

Burning a tag on Watkins wastes $6 million over his earned value. A far larger amount over value than Joyner’s would be.

In my scenario there would be no franchise tag this year.

 

[Jacobarch]

I love Snead's aggressiveness when bringing in New players but this laid back stole when addressing home-grown talent is a bit frustrating .

Maybe these guys want too much money . I'm sure we are making respectable offers