GAME DAY Divisional GDT - Texans at Chiefs / Commodes at Lions

[Steve808]

So that rugged division with the slackers, the viqueens and the kitties (lions) all were one and done in the playoffs despite their impressive records. If the Rams can keep Barkley from going off, we have a fighting chance tomorrow.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

 

[majrleaged]

Dude's Poise is unreal.

But like CJ Stroud, he had a tremendous supporting cast in his rookie year.

So did any QB who did well in his first year. Big Ben, Russel Wilson, Purdy, Hurst, Lamar Jackson, Bo Nix, Wentz. No QB can perform without talent around him. But this kid so far looks a bit different than most. Most times they spoon feed the offense to protect them and call plays they are familiar with from collage and maybe they did with Daniels at first, but this kid has no doubts in his ability and neither does the team no matter the situation. No panic. He is scary. Looks like Mahomes after he sat a year.

 

[shovelpass]

 

[majrleaged]

Campbell that cocksucker can bite his own knee caps tonight.

Being in the fetal position will make it a lot easier.

 

[majrleaged]

how about jared goff....

i'm probably one of the biggest goff apologists on this site...

but he showed me why mcvay was so frustrated with him, as i was, late in this contest..

the checkdowns were the backbreaker for the lions... he needed to go deep, but never did...

i was screaming at the tv for him to go deep...

and most likely there were deep opportunities (i'll have to check all 22 to confirm)...

we got the right guy... i can no longer wonder that...

go rams

slo

Welcome to the party pal!

 

[majrleaged]

The rules are rules. He got hit in the head. So come on man. Either follow the rules or ignore them.

refs can't see the whole field.

 

[majrleaged]

Aidan Hutchinson was having a DPOY-level season when he got injured. And then they put 16 guys on IR. Their defense had 30 different starters over the course of the year. Their D got decimated like our O-line did in 2022.

So yeah, if not for the injuries, I think they might have... well.... ah, who cares. Tough shit.

Agree, who cares, but I just want to point out, on washingtons 1st possesion the lions lost a starting CB because his own guy wanted to get another hit on a guy who was already wrapped up and going down. There sometimes is a price to pay for the lions type of Defensive attitude. I suspect a significant percentage of the injuries are self inflicted. Either by friendly fire like that one or just from hitting hard all the time.

 

[Loyal]

Detroit needs a defense. And I think even if they had most of those guys who got injured they still might have struggled to stop Washington. That offense is hitting at the perfect time.

If you got the QB you can scrape a bit on offense, assuming your defense gets the ball back to them. Detroit's got an all universe offense but if they had a defense they'd be the '99 Rams reborn.

No they wouldn't. Goff is no Kurt Warner and never will be.

 

[dang]

Does anyone have any Joseph post game comments?

Dude looked like he didn’t belong on the field in the first half.

IF he’s smart he’d admit he wasn’t ready but that’s a huge IF.

 

[Mojo Ram]

No they wouldn't. Goff is no Kurt Warner and never will be.

Yeah I mean that roster is loaded. We know who Goff is. I wonder if the Lions do. Holmes knows. He built that roster to support a QB who excels when he isn’t asked to carry the load or make the big plays when shit ain’t working.

I’m drafting a QB if I’m the Lions. Goff isn’t the answer into January and February. We know this.

Sure the Lions’ D was missing guys so that was a factor in getting beat, but it’s not like WASH rolled out an elite D last night. They simply zeroed in on the weakest link. That cannot be your QB. Just can’t.

 

[Jacobarch]

Goff was w everything we traded away tonight - but he is still young and proved this year that he is a force to be reckoned with in this league

Thing is he's not really young anymore. He's been in the league what... 8 years now? He's a vet now and he is what he is. A good QB that shits the bed in big games. He'll always be that. The lions have what I would call the best team around him, one of the best lines, one of the best wr cores, one of the best TEs, and one of the best rbs. He's also had the luxury of having two of the best coaches in the league. Mcvay and Campbell. Goff is who he is. Could he win a SB? Sure, but he would need a team that doesn't have 18 players on defensive IR. Basically he's not good enough to carry a team

 

[Mojo Ram]

Goff will be 31 this year. Not old but not a young QB anymore.

 

[Merlin]

No they wouldn't. Goff is no Kurt Warner and never will be.

Agreed he is no Warner. But he's got that level of offense around him. So what he needs in order to win it all is a much stronger defense opposite.

 

[thirteen28]

Agreed he is no Warner. But he's got that level of offense around him. So what he needs in order to win it all is a much stronger defense opposite.

And the whole team has to execute.

Last year against the 9ers in the NFCC, the team around him didn't execute in the 2nd half. And last night he failed to execute.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah I mean that roster is loaded. We know who Goff is. I wonder if the Lions do. Holmes knows. He built that roster to support a QB who excels when he isn’t asked to carry the load or make the big plays when shit ain’t working.

I’m drafting a QB if I’m the Lions. Goff isn’t the answer into January and February. We know this.

Sure the Lions’ D was missing guys so that was a factor in getting beat, but it’s not like WASH rolled out an elite D last night. They simply zeroed in on the weakest link. That cannot be your QB. Just can’t.

They are now where McVay was with Goff, where he had to look at it and determine whether he can build it enough around him to win it all. Problem is their owner is not Kroenke. So the next two years of massive cap hits need to be ridden out by them regardless.

This is why defense is the key for them. They won't be able to move him and escape from the contract. I think there is a path for almost any QB to win a title (most recent shit QB to benefit thusly was Foles), it's simply a matter of how much do you need around him to do so. So invest in that defense in the draft and load the shit out of it.

Defense is the great friend of QBs. The magnifier of their potency due to its ability to minimize stalled drives and provide additional opportunities.

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1880747789900210377?s=19

 

[InfiniteRam]

Agreed he is no Warner. But he's got that level of offense around him. So what he needs in order to win it all is a much stronger defense opposite.

Right - Lions don't lose that game if not for all the injuries on defense.

This notion that Goff cannot win a Super Bowl is insane. Much lesser, MUCH MUCH lesser, QB's have. And Warner had multiple subpar passing games in the playoffs when with the Rams.

 

[thirteen28]

Yeah I mean that roster is loaded. We know who Goff is. I wonder if the Lions do. Holmes knows. He built that roster to support a QB who excels when he isn’t asked to carry the load or make the big plays when shit ain’t working.

I’m drafting a QB if I’m the Lions. Goff isn’t the answer into January and February. We know this.

Sure the Lions’ D was missing guys so that was a factor in getting beat, but it’s not like WASH rolled out an elite D last night. They simply zeroed in on the weakest link. That cannot be your QB. Just can’t.

They are now where McVay was with Goff, where he had to look at it and determine whether he can build it enough around him to win it all. Problem is their owner is not Kroenke. So the next two years of massive cap hits need to be ridden out by them regardless.

This is why defense is the key for them. They won't be able to move him and escape from the contract. I think there is a path for almost any QB to win a title (most recent shit QB to benefit thusly was Foles), it's simply a matter of how much do you need around him to do so. So invest in that defense in the draft and load the shit out of it.

Defense is the great friend of QBs. The magnifier of their potency due to its ability to minimize stalled drives and provide additional opportunities.

What Merlin said.

Their window is now, and for about one more season before they have to start making tough cap decisions. They are in a similar situation the Rams were at the end of 2020, but there is no Matthew Stafford to trade for at the present and unless one becomes available, they either have to win it with Goff or blow it up. And they have too much talent on the O side to blow it up. Get some more plus guys and depth on D and hope to avoid the injury bug. Goff is no Stafford, but he has had a number of good postseason games before, and generally played well all three playoff games he started last year, being let down by the team around him in the NFCC. He just happened to have his worst posteason game ever last night.

Bottom line, unless a Stafford-level QB becomes available in a trade, they are best at the moment building around Goff.

 

[Merlin]

Lions don't lose that game if not for all the injuries on defense.

I don't buy that. I didn't like their defense prior to the injuries. Still don't like it. They're short on that side of the ball, need more dominance to ensure Goff hoists that Lombardi.