Coleman Shelton Signs with Rams

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I believe I read Dotson had to make some of the calls for Limmer during the season as he was getting up to speed.

I think the kid was just swimming in the deep end. And he may be able master the mental stuff, it just depends on his timeline.
The timeline is probably 2026. How fast can a freshman become a PhD?

Here is Snead's quote:

"...but I've often said he [Limmer] was a freshman and working amongst a bunch of PhD's. So there was an element where you missed, not necessarily in what he was doing, but in what the center does for other people."
 

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On Limmer:
The Rams’ center typically calls and sets the initial protection but Stafford has the power to supersede the call if he wants — an important detail especially in 2024 as the team went from former starter Coleman Shelton (who departed in free agency last spring) to second-year lineman Steve Avila, to rookie Beaux Limmer (with a Week 10 game in which veteran free-agent acquisition Jonah Jacksonplayed center, before the coaching staff moved back to Limmer). Stafford has played with four centers over the past calendar year.
Limmer, a sixth-round pick last spring, has secured his role as a starter. Stafford said that it remains Limmer’s responsibility to get up to speed on his calls (and to lean on guards Avila and Kevin Dotson for cross-checks), but against more complex or aggressive defenses, Limmer noted his appreciation that the veteran quarterback can take over:
2024, Week 8, Minnesota Vikings at Los Angeles Rams, :53 remaining in the first quarter, first-and-10
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After shifting Kupp inside, Stafford used multiple dummy counts. Broadcast microphones picked up his “ready-set-hut” — an actual count frequently starts with the word “turbo.” After noticing both overhang defenders jump, he knew the Vikings would blitz. Stafford “canned” the original call, meaning of the two plays McVay called into his headset, Stafford canceled the first play so the offense would run the second call.
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The second play was a pass, so Limmer wanted to slide the protection to the inside linebacker. Andrew Van Ginkel (No. 43) typically plays on the edge but on this play, he was inside, which likely alerted Limmer of the possibility that Van Ginkel could have been in that position to blitz.
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However, Stafford had a better read on the defense and adjusted the protection. Microphones captured it:
“Out to 22!”
Stafford’s call overruled the center and slid the protection out to safety Harrison Smith (No. 22).
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Stafford was correct: Smith blitzed while Van Ginkel dropped. Sometimes dropping non-traditional players out of certain exotic pressures leaves them vulnerable in coverage. Stafford attacked Van Ginkel, throwing to Nacua running a dig behind him.
“It gives me the most confidence,” Limmer said. “Obviously I’m a rookie this year, so coming in I didn’t know really anything about the offense. So if I ever make a wrong call or anything — I mean, he hears it right away and he’s flipping the protection or whatever it is. It gives me a lot of confidence not to make the wrong call, because he’s going to make it right if I do.”
 

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And the oline gets so few "real" reps in camp that it usually takes them the longest to jell every season (this is true for all the teams, not just us).
Maybe it just feels that way because we don't give a shit about the other teams? Lol......Yeah the limited reps in the preseason certainly don't help though
 

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I'm not sure why Shelton-for-Limmer is such a big deal to so many posters.
And we all know who they are. Shelton, by every measure is an upgrade AT THIS POINT over Limmer. It was obvious (to me) how much more coherent the Rams OL was with Shelton.

I hope Limmer raises his game and ultimately takes over the position, because that will mean the Rams get better, but I am fine if Shelton wins the starting gig for now.
 

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Maybe it just feels that way because we don't give a shit about the other teams? Lol......Yeah the limited reps in the preseason certainly don't help though
I'm sure there is something to your feeling that we typically start slow. While McVay is a trendsetter, there is a real cost to his method of not playing starters and key backups in preseason. That cost is you're going to start slower than you could.
 

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I'm sure there is something to your feeling that we typically start slow. While McVay is a trendsetter, there is a real cost to his method of not playing starters and key backups in preseason. That cost is you're going to start slower than you could.
in 2021 the rams started 7and 2
2020 5 and 2
2019 5 and 3
2018 8 and 0
2017 10 and 3
Up until after the SB win the Rams have always started out well. I think we can all agree the last 3 years have started out rough, but all those years things really stacked up against them or they were rebuilding.

I don't think not playing starters in preseason games cost the Rams anything.
 

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in 2021 the rams started 7and 2
2020 5 and 2
2019 5 and 3
2018 8 and 0
2017 10 and 3
Up until after the SB win the Rams have always started out well. I think we can all agree the last 3 years have started out rough, but all those years things really stacked up against them or they were rebuilding.

I don't think not playing starters in preseason games cost the Rams anything.
When did McVay start doing that? I don't believe he sat starters in his first few years coaching. But I'm going off the top of my head and could be wrong.