CJ Anderson

[Merlin]

Gurley still has power and strength but he isn't what we have been used to. For the money he's become a liability. This isn't easy for me to say because I like Gurley as a player and a person. But that contract is big, and he may well be in a serious decline due to his knee.

I love TG. But he definitely has lost lateral movement IMO. It's like he is hesitant to cut, and when he does it's like he's being careful.

Sad thing here is if the OL was giving him seams he'd be churning yards with the speed and power he still possesses. But they're not, so that's why I am suggesting a minor depth adjustment to help prepare the team for being able to run into looks that Gurley's not great at (he's not an excel in traffic type back).

Getting the play action looks back is the best way to get Goff settled down. It also will help the OL and allow them some time to settle in. We have talent on this OL, so at least it's not like they can't play, what they need is some back to basics focus and to ensure we have the horses in the backfield to keep the defenses honest.

 

[dieterbrock]

5 rushes for 16 yards, and 13 came on one carry.

This is his 3rd straight game hitting less than 4 YPC.

Yet 2 of the runs resulted in TD's.
So 40% of his runs when for Touchdowns, that puts a different spin on things
5 plays is way too few of a sample

 

[Psycho_X]

Meh, i like CJ and what he did for us last season but I’m not sure he’d do better than Brown if he got majority of the touches. In other words, I don’t think our problem is our RBs so not sure what good that’d do.

 

[TexasRam]

This is one of the reasons I say he is done. Gurley can't focus cuz he's dealing with pain and adjusting to his knee limitations. Same thing in the NFC Champ game. Gurley dropping balls resulting in interceptions and putting the offense in a bind.

I predict some time this season the staff will change their tone on Gurley.

 

[bwdenverram]

I'm not just looking at this game. The eyes don't lie, he's clearly not the same.

The play calling isn't the same, the OL is worse and Goff has as many INT's as TD's thru 4 games. A lot isn't the same bro, we have to stop looking at just TD. Did you watch the 20 yard TD run (or whatever it was) and see him run thru 3 guys and never go down. Did that not look like the Gurley we know and love?

 

[Dxmissile]

A lot of those passes was behind high or way too much zip on it. And some times he would just drop it to not get tackled for a loss cause the play be busted. But last week he averaged over 7 yards per catch make him the focal point of this offense again if we trying to save him for the postseason we need to stop cause we might not even make it

 

[LesBaker]

The play calling isn't the same, the OL is worse and Goff has as many INT's as TD's thru 4 games. A lot isn't the same bro, we have to stop looking at just TD. Did you watch the 20 yard TD run (or whatever it was) and see him run thru 3 guys and never go down. Did that not look like the Gurley we know and love?

He's not the same, and playcalling or the OL has nothing to do with him not looking the same. He looked bad late last year with a very good OL.

 

[tklongball]

I see a team whose Offense is built off of play action, with an offensive line that can't win on running plays.

 

[Dxmissile]

Yeah I’ve seen him woods cooks a lot of them will sorta drop the ball when they know the play will result in loss yards it’s actually smart to do that.
And with him not being a receiving threat it’s more to do with Goff not taking the underneath routes that game was one of the first times since the beginning of last year where the running back and tight ends play a important part in the passing game

 

[Dxmissile]

He's not the same, and playcalling or the OL has nothing to do with him not looking the same. He looked bad late last year with a very good OL.

He had a total of about 20 carries in the playoffs and the last two games he played in and when he did touch the ball he actually gained positive yards remember that run in the superbowl that went for 20 and got called back cause of a hold then he didn’t touch the ball the rest of the game.
I don’t see how you can say he looked bad with very limited touches and you know who looked worse and actually had a much bigger sample Goff!!

 

[LesBaker]

He had a total of about 20 carries in the playoffs and the last two games he played in and when he did touch the ball he actually gained positive yards remember that run in the superbowl that went for 20 and got called back cause of a hold then he didn’t touch the ball the rest of the game.
I don’t see how you can say he looked bad with very limited touches and you know who looked worse and actually had a much bigger sample Goff!!

You're using one or two examples of runs to try to make a case hat he is fine and nothing is wrong.

Why do you think an offensive minded coach who centered his offense around play action and running Gurley ISN'T RUNNING GURLEY???

Because something is wrong with Gurley, and most likely it's an arthritic knee according to the best speculation.

If nothing is wrong with him he'd be getting the ball a lot more.

So it's not the OL and it's not the playcalling. Like it or not it's Gurley.

 

[Dxmissile]

You're using one or two examples of runs to try to make a case hat he is fine and nothing is wrong.

Why do you think an offensive minded coach who centered his offense around play action and running Gurley ISN'T RUNNING GURLEY???

Because something is wrong with Gurley, and most likely it's an arthritic knee according to the best speculation.

If nothing is wrong with him he'd be getting the ball a lot more.

So it's not the OL and it's not the playcalling. Like it or not it's Gurley.

I have seen plenty of offensive minded coaches not use their running backs McVay himself when he was with the redskins was known for not using his running backs. And one or two plays are all we have to go on because Gurley rarely gets the ball. But he averaged over 7 yards per catch last game stayed in blocking all game if something was really wrong with Gurley there’s no way that they would risk injury with him by having him block all day. I’m going to trust my eyes and what I see and I’m also gonna trust McVays track record of being a pass first coach that’s trying to elevate the play of his QB

 

[Merlin]

I have seen plenty of offensive minded coaches not use their running backs McVay himself when he was with the redskins was known for not using his running backs. And one or two plays are all we have to go on because Gurley rarely gets the ball. But he averaged over 7 yards per catch last game stayed in blocking all game if something was really wrong with Gurley there’s no way that they would risk injury with him by having him block all day. I’m going to trust my eyes and what I see and I’m also gonna trust McVays track record of being a pass first coach that’s trying to elevate the play of his QB

He's averaging what, 15 touches per game? No way that would be happening unless they recognize they need to "save him for the postseason." McVay got away with the lower touches in the first three games but the L is gonna change things.

I think his "touch count" will go up a bit. Guessing 20.

 

[LesBaker]

I have seen plenty of offensive minded coaches not use their running backs McVay himself when he was with the redskins was known for not using his running backs. And one or two plays are all we have to go on because Gurley rarely gets the ball. But he averaged over 7 yards per catch last game stayed in blocking all game if something was really wrong with Gurley there’s no way that they would risk injury with him by having him block all day. I’m going to trust my eyes and what I see and I’m also gonna trust McVays track record of being a pass first coach that’s trying to elevate the play of his QB

It isn't an injury so they aren't really risking him by having him block.

I don't recall a RB ever getting injured from throwing a block in the backfield while picking up a defender.

The pain and stiffness from arthritis can come and go and be at different levels.

Just watch him run. Many reporters and talking heads have noticed the difference and have talked about it.

 

[LesBaker]

He's averaging what, 15 touches per game? No way that would be happening unless they recognize they need to "save him for the postseason." McVay got away with the lower touches in the first three games but the L is gonna change things.

I think his "touch count" will go up a bit. Guessing 20.

The "save him for the postseason" thing makes no sense though. I've heard it brought up by posters and by media types covering the Rams.

If, as we have been told, it's arthritis it can flare up just as easily at the end of they year whether he is used lightly or not.

Also from what I understand one o the effects of arthritis is fatigue in varying degrees. So that could be a part of this whole thing too.

 

[Dxmissile]

It isn't an injury so they aren't really risking him by having him block.

I don't recall a RB ever getting injured from throwing a block in the backfield while picking up a defender.

The pain and stiffness from arthritis can come and go and be at different levels.

Just watch him run. Many reporters and talking heads have noticed the difference and have talked about it.

So bending your knees and laughing your self at 200+pounds of rushing linebackers can’t result in injury?! That’s putting way more stress on his knees then running Trying to stop and hold guys from getting to the Quarterback.
Just recently it was stated that Gurley was timed faster then any times he had last year in practice. And when he actually have a lane to run throw it still look like vintage Gurley and on that would be touchdown catch he blew past his defender.
I’m not saying he don’t have arthritis but like he said he’s been dealing with that since Georgia If he couldn’t come out and be Gurley I doubt he’ll put his self in that position.

 

[LesBaker]

So bending your knees and laughing your self at 200+pounds of rushing linebackers can’t result in injury?! That’s putting way more stress on his knees then running Trying to stop and hold guys from getting to the Quarterback.
Just recently it was stated that Gurley was timed faster then any times he had last year in practice. And when he actually have a lane to run throw it still look like vintage Gurley and on that would be touchdown catch he blew past his defender.
I’m not saying he don’t have arthritis but like he said he’s been dealing with that since Georgia If he couldn’t come out and be Gurley I doubt he’ll put his self in that position.

Keep telling yourself all is well.

 

[Dxmissile]

Keep telling yourself all is well.

I know all isn’t well with the play calling or the o line you wanna put it all on Gurley which doesn’t make sense sense no running back is getting any carries unless all of them are hurt