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I'll bet all of my ROD $ that he won't be available at #10. And I have like a thousand delores. LOL
I think we pass on him. Our team could so badly use Brandon Scherff or Amari Cooper (please!) - Mariota would compete with Foles this year and probably end up becoming a serviceable starter. I honestly don't think he's better than that. I could well be wrong but I'm not an NFL scout...
As much as I agree with jrry on many of his talent evaluations...I disagree on Mariota.
Id find a trade in this scenario or take the best OL or WR.
I'll bet all of my ROD $ that he won't be available at #10. And I have like a thousand delores. LOL
As much as I am all in on the OL for need - I just can't see passing on the value and BPA of Mariota if he was there at 10. At the very minimum you have a 2nd string QB that even if he sits on your bench, has more value than virtually any other FA on the market in a given year. Trade him for the player you covet most - you are almost assured that you will get him in exchange for a 1st round QB that won the Heisman and is known for NOT being a pre-Madonna. In fact, I would say that you get your man plus a high draft pick in any trade.As much as I agree with jrry on many of his talent evaluations...I disagree on Mariota.
Id find a trade in this scenario or take the best OL or WR.
I think it is interesting that many say that Fish has to win NOW. I don't see it that way. Fish, Snead, KD, and Kroenke have brought a new brain trust to this team. IMO this is not a get rich quick type mentality. It is a work it hard and get rich mentality. It is a do it all mentality. We may not EVER see a big FA push. We may never see a blockbuster trade. But I think what we will see is a steady progression toward being a contender each and every year and with that will come SB appearances and hopefully some championships. What I don't think we will see is knee jerk firings and soap opera drama from our organization.
But maybe that's just me hoping.
Yup Foles would IMO be the perfect bridge or franchise guy and you'd have a year to decide ,but shit that'd mean we'd have to cut Davis ,the humanityAs much as I am all in on the OL for need - I just can't see passing on the value and BPA of Mariota if he was there at 10. At the very minimum you have a 2nd string QB that even if he sits on your bench, has more value than virtually any other FA on the market in a given year. Trade him for the player you covet most - you are almost assured that you will get him in exchange for a 1st round QB that won the Heisman and is known for NOT being a pre-Madonna. In fact, I would say that you get your man plus a high draft pick in any trade.
Lock that dude up if you get the chance. Who knows, maybe a good guy with a good family lands in your lap as the next great franchise QB. If not, there will be a long line at your door for his services.
Those ARE my three options ,hope we 1 sign Bark 2 resign Long mid camp at lower rate to be a backup 3 get a FA guard 4 have the choice between Marriota or CooperI think we pass on him. Our team could so badly use Brandon Scherff or Amari Cooper (please!) - Mariota would compete with Foles this year and probably end up becoming a serviceable starter. I honestly don't think he's better than that. I could well be wrong but I'm not an NFL scout...
And we need to keep our 'Eye on the Ball', so to speak. We MUST concentrate on improving our O-Line "1st!!"Won't happen. He doesn't get passed the jets. If he does, he doesn't get passed us.
We have Foles on a one year deal currently. We're going to take a qb in this draft.
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That was the most uncomfortable, awkward Pro Day for a QB that I've ever watched, and J. Football's was a circus. You know what scares me the most about Mariota? His demeanor. Everyone expected for Mariota to blow up his Pro Day, but, it's almost like he had to have his hand held during the whole process, and he just stunk it up. Maybe that is not his thing, but watching him in the interview, he has no swag. That scares me. He will have to lead men into battle. Winston is a better player, leader, and ready to play, for the most part. He also has a better arm. Mariota is a great athlete, but he will have to sit a while too.
Did his demeanor bother anyone else besides me? If we could rally those picks to a team in love with him, I think I'd do it. I'd also take White or Cooper over him.
Pro Day? Swag? Come on, Doc! Don't fall in that trap.
It's not a trap, it's is demeanor overall. Doesn't bother you as an evaluator? I mean, he's a QB. Did you see his Pro Day? I still have him as my #2, but the separation between him and Winston grew. The separation between him and Hundley shrunk. He looked bad jrry32, and you should know that I don't let the TV guys sway my opinions.Pro Day? Swag? Come on, Doc! Don't fall in that trap.
It's not a trap, it's is demeanor overall. Doesn't bother you as an evaluator? I mean, he's a QB. Did you see his Pro Day? I still have him as my #2, but the separation between him and Winston grew. The separation between him and Hundley shrunk. He looked bad jrry32, and you should know that I don't let the TV guys sway my opinions.
Would you have been more comfortable if I used "it" factor?
Okay, different conversation, but I'm not talking about fiery, which I'm not a huge fan of anyway. Did you get a chance to watch him, or any of his interviews? Yes, he checks all the other boxes, I agree on that. I will also agree that we both rate QB's different, especially when it comes to character, and personality. He appeared timid. Timid is not what I would like in a QB. His arm strength didn't look great, and his accuracy was very poor. It was just disappointing, but it may help him fall a little.Nope, not at all. Some guys just have that demeanor. Not every QB will be the fiery leader type. The question for me is if they can play. Mariota isn't perfect as a prospect and he's a risk but I think he's a guy that you give a year to adjust to a NFL system and work on his mechanics, you'll be quite happy with what you get.
I don't think he has as much long term potential as Winston but I do think that he has the ability to be a top 10 QB if he's developed properly. More of a rich man's Alex Smith than a Peyton Manning type but I'd take it.