PREGAME Cardinals at Rams - Oct 3rd

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AZRams

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I'm wondering if there's a historical analogy here...it's not perfect but I wonder if it's still applicable.

Us older guys had to sit through the 80's & 90's watching the Niners great teams. Even John Robinson's best teams in the 80's would routinely lose to SF because the level of talent was so much higher.

Are we at that level? No, but I wonder if the talent disparity across the entire roster might not be comparable. Am I out of my mind...?
 

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Off topic but are you a cards fan? Opposing fans always find us somehow lol
Baby Yoda avatar didnt give it away? lol

yes , he is a long time member and a respectful one at that
 

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Kyler Murray is 0-4 with a 75.8 passer rating and has been sacked 11 times against the Rams over the last two years.
Job #1 is to continue to defend him well.
 

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Contain the Umpa Lumpa

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What do you get, when you face Aaron D?
Anchor, up front, for the mighty Rams D
Scramble around, but end up on your back
Ending a drive, with one more big sack
(I don't like his chances here)
Umpa-lumpa, dumpity-dump
For Kyler, playing the Rams is not fun
At the end of this week, you'll see its still true
In the West your Cards will be Number 2
(be Number 2)
 

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If I remember correctly, the last game the Rams played the cards, it was with Wolford who threw an INT almost immediately. They are healthier right now, so they will have no excuses. I don't think the Cards could beat Tampa. They have beaten teams they should have beaten, that is all. Two of those wins came against teams with losing records.

None of the teams they have faced have the overall team speed that the Rams have. The Rams have given Murray problems because he's still a two-read then-run QB. He struggles when he's got to stand there and read defenses. So with Morris leaving the short zone primarily uncontested, look for Murray to dump off fast into that short zone.

The Cards' whole philosophy under Kliff is to make every game a shootout. Well, I doubt they can win a shootout against the Rams. Michel gives the Rams a good solid RB to get those tough yards. Henderson is looking likely so they get their homerun hitter back. The Cards' secondary will be playing zone because they can't match up to all the Ram receiving threats. Kupp, Woods, Jefferson, and Jackson should be able to carve it up. Jackson gives the Rams that deep threat that truly worries secondaries. I can see Jefferson in rotation with Woods and Jackson. Add in Higbee and the RBs (all of whom are good receivers) and there is no way AZ can stop the Rams from making it a shootout on LA's terms.

4-0 atop the NFCW is looking pretty likely.

Go to our forum & we, including I, are predicting a loss & already looking forward to SF & CLE. It’s already an L until we can actually beat McVay.

LOL I live in Tucson so I know what you are talking about. Everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop. The Cards have an offense only as long as Murray stays healthy. He always starts strong but fades as the dings add up over the season. I hear Bidwell has his broom in his office ready to clean house if Kliff doesn't get even a wildcard win. Rumor has it and I would tend to believe it that he's quietly back-channeling a searching for a new FO.

That is the problem when you build your entire team around a specific skill set of a single player. Last year showed that Murray is that lynchpin and when that breaks the wheels fall off. You need a backup QB with a similar skill set. The Card's backup QB is Colt McCoy who hasn't shown he can even play at this level. He's mobile but not really a running threat. He struggles to read from the pocket. Has a tendency to throw a lot of INTs.

It's why IMO the Cards would have grabbed Perkins if he had hit the wire. Perkins runs well and is a better pocket passer than Murray. That is why Perkins is a Ram and could become the #2 QB in 2023. Wolford is a ERFA next year so he's locked into making this roster for 2022. But after that, he's a UFA while Perkins will be a ERFA. What I've seen in Perkins is enough talent to be a good starting QB in the right system. How long he stays in LA will depend upon if the Rams want to stay with Stafford beyond his 38th Bday. Even the seeming less indestructible Ben Rothlisberger is showing his age at 39.

If the Rams want to ride Stafford into his 40's then Perkins becomes trade bait. The clue will be when they begin to showcase Bryce in pre-season.
 

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Unlike the last two times the Rams faced the Cards, Murray comes in to this game healthy and on fire.
Losing Hollins and his exceptional athleticism and length is a blow to containing Murray, imo.
Gotta hope that Obo, Lewis and Garrett can contribute to slowing him... I think the situation actually calls for a lot of Garrett.. because he seems the most fluid of the three and most likely to be able to pursue Murray when he breaks contain.

Hit that QB hard and often.
 

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After seeing what happened last year against the Jets the Rams should never over look anyone.

Murray presents a problem for our edge guys and keeping him contained. Hopefully we’ll see a great plan to make him hold the ball and lots of pressure to force them into mistakes. I think our overall team speed will be a factor.

Offensively I don’t see the Cards slowing down this juggernaut. Some one said 5+ ypc??? Michel has to be licking his chops.
 

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It's why IMO the Cards would have grabbed Perkins if he had hit the wire. Perkins runs well and is a better pocket passer than Murray. That is why Perkins is a Ram and could become the #2 QB in 2023. Wolford is a ERFA next year so he's locked into making this roster for 2022. But after that, he's a UFA while Perkins will be a ERFA. What I've seen in Perkins is enough talent to be a good starting QB in the right system. How long he stays in LA will depend upon if the Rams want to stay with Stafford beyond his 38th Bday. Even the seeming less indestructible Ben Rothlisberger is showing his age at 39.

If the Rams want to ride Stafford into his 40's then Perkins becomes trade bait. The clue will be when they begin to showcase Bryce in pre-season.
Please not this again :ROFLMAO: I like Perkins because he's a Ram but as a passer he was an absolute scrub in the preseason. Please stop saying he's a better passer than Murray who's currently an MVP candidate completing 77% of his passes at 10 YPA. Perkins completed 61% of his passes at UNDER 5 YPA throwing against mostly guys who are sitting at home right now. There is no comparison.
 

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Please not this again :ROFLMAO: I like Perkins because he's a Ram but as a passer he was an absolute scrub in the preseason. Please stop saying he's a better passer than Murray who's currently an MVP candidate completing 77% of his passes at 10 YPA. Perkins completed 61% of his passes at UNDER 5 YPA throwing against mostly guys who are sitting at home right now. There is no comparison.
Let me guess, this is a response to Oldnotdead huh? lmao
 

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They win the same way the Seahawks used to win. Backyard football. Keep the little man in the pocket and they become a non factor
Yep. Good analogy...except the Cards have been unable (or unwilling) to establish a run game with the backs and can't close out games with the RB's like Seattle used to.
 

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I've always liked Chase Edmunds. Him and Rondale Moore could get loose vs our D at times. Murray running around and finding these guys with running room is worrisome.
 

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Let me guess, this is a response to Oldnotdead huh? lmao
@DVontel !! What's going on man?

Well, it's that time of the year again....Midget scoring season!!!
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lol

Had to give you a little shit, it's been a while!

Honestly, Kingsberry and McVay being friends and all I see this one as a close one. As we see with McFleaur, Shanahan, McVay, and Kingsberry they are friends, but take the rivalry with eachother very seriously. I see you guys coming out with some things that haven't been seen before for the season and some new twists. Been watching you guys a lot. You guys OL going to be start all 5 this coming week?
 

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Man I know we have to move on but I still have one hellova buzz from this weeks win going on.

Totally trolling Youtube for anything.

So many Rams fans have given up the past 27 years. Loyalty certainly has its rewards.

GO RAMS!!!
 

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Wassup man.
Go to our forum & we, including I, are predicting a loss & already looking forward to SF & CLE. It’s already an L until we can actually beat McVay.



So I've been pretty hard on the Cardinals but I have to admit that the wins against Tennessee and JAX impressed me. I know JAX isn't good but the Cardinals have dropped those should win games in the past (Lions last year), and both were east coast trips and early starts (I think TEN was early).

You're a good poster though and honestly, most of my irritation with the Cardinals has nothing to do with them. It was so many picking them over the Rams last year when they'd never beaten McVay. Murray has never played particularly well against us, but....

He's seemed to have gotten dinged up prior to playing us in years past, at least from what I can recall. This time he's fully healthy and has a better offense around him. And for the Cardinals, it's house money to an extent because this game is in LA. More of a measuring stick game than a must win.

A few questions for you:

Is the run defense bad? Was great in week one but seemed to struggle the last two weeks.

Is the OL injured? Saw a few guys got dinged up