Bryce Young Benched. Rams Project?

[Soul Surfer]

I am OUT on Bryce Young. But I don't know QBs. And the Rams pro level scouting seems solid at scouting QB talent. Stafford. Baker. Bortles. Wentz. It has been a while since I've seen the Rams bring in an external pro level QB of any note that was not a passable to great fit. The jury is still out on Jimmy G. If McVay and Snead think Young can work here, I'd be open to seeing them try, even if skeptical.

I think the Carolina Panthers straight up screwed up Bryce Young.
The guy can obviously play as he won the Heisman Trophy.
I think a lot of the naysayers are understandably going on his performance on a really bad team where he really didn't have a shot.
What if you had a Super bowl winning coach tell you that YOU were his handpicked choice to operate his team in the near future?
What *if* McVay molded an offense around him?
With our offensive line and our defense at the moment?
I don't know how long Stafford could last.
And Bryce Young is more mobile and could take less of a beating.
Why not try to get him now at a bargain basement price.
No first round or proven quarterback is ever going to go for a bargain basement price.
I think this plan has as good a chance of any to work.

 

[Memento]

I think the Carolina Panthers straight up screwed up Bryce Young.
The guy can obviously play as he won the Heisman Trophy.
I think a lot of the naysayers are understandably going on his performance on a really bad team where he really didn't have a shot.
What if you had a Super bowl winning coach tell you that YOU were his handpicked choice to operate his team in the near future?
What *if* McVay molded an offense around him?
With our offensive line and our defense at the moment?
I don't know how long Stafford could last.
And Bryce Young is more mobile and could take less of a beating.
Why not try to get him now at a bargain basement price.
No first round or proven quarterback is ever going to go for a bargain basement price.
I think this plan has as good a chance of any to work.

Bryce Young had Jameson Williams, John Metchie III, Brian Robinson, a road-grading offensive line that allowed him all time to throw, and a dominant defense, including Will Anderson.

Wasn't exactly Mac Jones with Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Najee Harris, and his offensive line, but let's not pretend that he didn't benefit solely from Alabama's talent.

 

[Merlin]

Panthers will want too much for him this year. Next offseason though they will draft another QB and have the full realization nobody is going to treat his shrimpy ass like a 1 overall pick in trade, and that will be the window to pry him loose.

 

[Corbin]

I think the Carolina Panthers straight up screwed up Bryce Young.
The guy can obviously play as he won the Heisman Trophy.
I think a lot of the naysayers are understandably going on his performance on a really bad team where he really didn't have a shot.
What if you had a Super bowl winning coach tell you that YOU were his handpicked choice to operate his team in the near future?
What *if* McVay molded an offense around him?
With our offensive line and our defense at the moment?
I don't know how long Stafford could last.
And Bryce Young is more mobile and could take less of a beating.
Why not try to get him now at a bargain basement price.
No first round or proven quarterback is ever going to go for a bargain basement price.
I think this plan has as good a chance of any to work.

“agh shucks man!”

 

[RamDino]

I think the Rams plan was to try and draft a QB that they could develop and eventually take over for Stafford. Unfortunately, they drafted Stetson Bennett. Sorry. I'll see myself out now.

 

[PhillyRam]

I think the Rams plan was to try and draft a QB that they could develop and eventually take over for Stafford. Unfortunately, they drafted Stetson Bennett. Sorry. I'll see myself out now.

I think it has been mentioned here before, Bennett was never drafted to be the future starter. It appears he was drafted to be a cheap back up in a period when they had no cap space. The thinking appeared to be that the 25 yr old rookie had tons of big gane experience and thus he could handle the back up role.

Didn't agree with it at the time as I don't think you waste a 4th rounder on a guy that doesn't have a legit chance to start for you someday.

 

[RamDino]

I think it has been mentioned here before, Bennett was never drafted to be the future starter. It appears he was drafted to be a cheap back up in a period when they had no cap space. The thinking appeared to be that the 25 yr old rookie had tons of big gane experience and thus he could handle the back up role.

Didn't agree with it at the time as I don't think you waste a 4th rounder on a guy that doesn't have a legit chance to start for you someday.

Not disagreeing with you, in fact I liked your post, but there seems to be plenty of back-up QBs available looking for a second chance. If the Rams plan was to draft a guy knowing he would never start, I think that is a wasted pick, especially for a 4th-rounder. JMO.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I think the Carolina Panthers straight up screwed up Bryce Young.
The guy can obviously play as he won the Heisman Trophy.
I think a lot of the naysayers are understandably going on his performance on a really bad team where he really didn't have a shot.
What if you had a Super bowl winning coach tell you that YOU were his handpicked choice to operate his team in the near future?
What *if* McVay molded an offense around him?
With our offensive line and our defense at the moment?
I don't know how long Stafford could last.
And Bryce Young is more mobile and could take less of a beating.
Why not try to get him now at a bargain basement price.
No first round or proven quarterback is ever going to go for a bargain basement price.
I think this plan has as good a chance of any to work.

The Heisman Trophy?
Marcus Mariota, Tim Tebow, Ty Detmer, Danny Wuerffel, Matt Leinart, Johnny Manziel, Troy Smith, Chris Weinke, Andre Ware, RGIII and other busts have won the Heisman.

I'm a naysayer because of his physical attributes. I've never seen a 5'10" about a 185 lbs. NFL QB with average at best arm strength and no above average physical trait succeed in the NFL. He can't see down the field. I've watched him jump in order to get passes past the line of scrimmage. And not your typical goal line jump pass after a fake. He was jumping trying to pass down field.

Even Kyler Murray is bigger than this kid and Murphy has great speed, elusiveness, and a big arm to help offset his shortcomings.

 

[Jacobarch]

I think the Carolina Panthers straight up screwed up Bryce Young.
The guy can obviously play as he won the Heisman Trophy.
I think a lot of the naysayers are understandably going on his performance on a really bad team where he really didn't have a shot.
What if you had a Super bowl winning coach tell you that YOU were his handpicked choice to operate his team in the near future?
What *if* McVay molded an offense around him?
With our offensive line and our defense at the moment?
I don't know how long Stafford could last.
And Bryce Young is more mobile and could take less of a beating.
Why not try to get him now at a bargain basement price.
No first round or proven quarterback is ever going to go for a bargain basement price.
I think this plan has as good a chance of any to work.

I think we have to accept that not all good college QBs are good enough to be in the NFL. There are far more Heisman trophy QBs that have failed in the NFL than have succeeded. The NFL is far more complicated than college ball in every facet

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I'd rather focus our betting chips on Arch Manning. That is the next big thing at QB. Did you see that run where his top speed was faster than Tyreek Hill? That kid is special and has the family genes to back it up

 

[den-the-coach]

I'd rather focus our betting chips on Arch Manning. That is the next big thing at QB. Did you see that run where his top speed was faster than Tyreek Hill? That kid is special and has the family genes to back it up

People do not realize how good his grandfather was, who was a far better over athlete then Peyton or Eli. Arch is going to be special and as a youngster I always felt sorry for Archie Manning being with the hapless Saints and how good the Rams would have been with him at QB in the 70's instead of the likes of Hadl, Harris, Jaworski & Little Lord Fauntleroy.

 

[Toothsayer]

I missed the part where Snead and McVay were on a weekend heroine binge when they made the trade.

"Heroine" binge is my fav typo of the week.

I go on heroine binges in my mind regularly, but they usually only last about 10-15 mins. I start with Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman or Scarlett Jo's Black Widow, & often...um...finish with the original Cat Woman, Julie Newmar. TMI ?

The trade proposal is absurd. Young smells of Mariota to me. And never trust a guy with a first/last name reversal like Chase Daniel; confusion is baked into his very identity.

Seriously, no QB currently makes much sense as a trade option, imo. Somebody special could shake loose unexpectedly; how long will Cincy & Buffalo wait for their guys to deliver a Lombardi, for eg ? But I don't think you can plan on it.

Following the Green Bay model is easier said than done, of course, but if LAR keeps drafting well , it makes more sense to me. I think they bite the dead cap bullet sooner rather than later with MS & hope a bridge can keep them competitive until a non-top 5 prospect is ready to take the wheel of a young & relatively cheap playoff-ready roster. Keep drafting well & be ready to pounce, imo.

Of course, you have to believe McVay can actually develop a QB. TBD, imo.

 

[Merlin]

I think it has been mentioned here before, Bennett was never drafted to be the future starter. It appears he was drafted to be a cheap back up in a period when they had no cap space. The thinking appeared to be that the 25 yr old rookie had tons of big gane experience and thus he could handle the back up role.

Didn't agree with it at the time as I don't think you waste a 4th rounder on a guy that doesn't have a legit chance to start for you someday.

Yep. And then he proceeded to take a year off and the Rams end up paying for a backup in Jimmy. Which I am glad about btw. But had he played his first year and impressed the staff that would have saved the team money.

Since he's very unlikely to be a QB1 that means there is still time for them to recoup things by growing him into a backup for next season. He does have some wheels to him for playing the part of mobile QBs in practices on scout team too.

I have said this many times and will again... When you have a coach of McVay's quality you should always have a young QB cooking on your depth chart. That young QB could very well turn into additional picks to extend your window. Or he could save a season potentially if your QB goes down. Patriots did that for many years to good effect and we have the coach to pull that off, just requires devoting a QB3 slot. Which shouldn't be a problem for the Rams, not like our special teams players are any good anyway.

 

[Soul Surfer]

I'd rather focus our betting chips on Arch Manning.

Us and 15 other teams.

 

[Soul Surfer]

I'd rather focus our betting chips on Arch Manning.

Us and 15 other teams.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Us and 15 other teams.

Are your responses stuttering

 

[Soul Surfer]

The Heisman Trophy?
Marcus Mariota, Tim Tebow, Ty Detmer, Danny Wuerffel, Matt Leinart, Johnny Manziel, Troy Smith, Chris Weinke, Andre Ware, RGIII and other busts have won the Heisman.

Yeah I was waiting for this list to pop up
What took you so long?
There's also a nice list of quarterbacks that won the Heisman that are presently kicking rear end in the NFL.
And I would say that some of these quarterbacks fail for the same reason Bryce Young is failing so far. That being lack of team support.
As you know RG3 was a victim of injuries as much as anything.
Others were second stringers that DID have careers in the NFL.
Most of these quarterbacks were, like Young, drafted by desperate teams that tried to start them without developing them first. Thereby throwing them to the wolves.
I wouldn't say that everyone you listed was a bust all by themselves in a team sport.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Yeah I was waiting for this list to pop up?
What took you so long?
There's also a nice list of quarterbacks that won the Heisman that are presently kicking rear end in the NFL.
And I would say that some of these quarterbacks fail for the same reason Bryce Young is failing so far. That being lack of team support.
As you know RG3 was a victim of injuries as much as anything.
Others were second stringers that DID have careers in the NFL.
Most of these quarterbacks were, like Young, drafted by desperate teams that tried to start them without developing them first. Thereby throwing them to the wolves.
I wouldn't say that everyone you listed was a bust all by themselves in a team sport.

Young was said to be one of the most cerebral players at the position of most draft classes. A coach on the field.

IMO, Bryce Young is failing so far because of his size.

They upgraded the OLine and added weapons and he looks worse than he did last year. I've watched the games and he doesn't seem to see wide open WRs. Sure it happens to the best of them from time to time, but my guess is that due to his size he can't see these guys or he's waiting for a huge open window in order to deliver the ball.

And that clip of him appearing to be crying after a pick doesn't inspire confidence at all.

 

[jrry32]

Young was said to be one of the most cerebral players at the position of most draft classes. A coach on the field.

IMO, Bryce Young is failing so far because of his size.

They upgraded the OLine and added weapons and he looks worse than he did last year. I've watched the games and he doesn't seem to see wide open WRs. Sure it happens to the best of them from time to time, but my guess is that due to his size he can't see these guys or he's waiting for a huge open window in order to deliver the ball.

And that clip of him appearing to be crying after a pick doesn't inspire confidence at all.

If anything, that's the sort of thing that counsels more patience. It typically takes the cerebral types more time to adjust to the NFL. It's the guys who are uber athletic who adjust more quickly. Regardless, Young may not be able to do it. But if he's available on the cheap, I'll shoot my shot. I have a lot of faith in McVay's ability to scheme around weaknesses and bring out the best in his players.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Are your responses stuttering

Repeating myself for emphasis?