Black Monday

[WestCoastRam]

He won 11 games with Matt Cassell
So let me understand, they wont tell him who to hire, just who he cant?
That's why BB has SB rings and Arthur Blank doesnt
Take the names out of the equation and its pretty clear.
Either way, glad they gave Morris a shot, although I cant say I hope he does well because I hate the Falcons
They'll always be NFC "west" to me

Maybe the Bill who won with Cassell ain't the same Bill? People don't stay the same. They either improve or get worse. Constantly. Maybe he just kept getting worse and the improvement that he may have had hasn't been enough.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Maybe the Bill who won with Cassell ain't the same Bill? People don't stay the same.

Cloning!?!

Who's behind it?!? ... The Government?! ... Elon Musk?! ... Kanye!? ... the Swifties!? ... All of Them!?!

 

[RhodyRams]

my thoughts on BB

why would a team looking to rebuild with a young QB hire a 71 year old coach who probably will retire once he gets the win record?

Take Washington for example. Young QB in Howell but may grab an even younger QB with the #4 pick. Now why would the owner want a coach that isnt going to be around in 3 years or so then have to start another HC search?


IMO most teams looking to hire a HC this season are looking for a long term coach, one that will be around for more than a handful of years, not one that is going to ride off into the sunset once he gets his 14 or 15 wins


I think this is one of the reasons NE let him go. They will be grabbing a (hopefully) franchise QB and want a coach that will stick around as that QB develops

 

[WestCoastRam]

Cloning!?!

Who's behind it?!? ... The Government?! ... Elon Musk?! ... Kanye!? ... the Swifties!? ... All of Them!?!

When you get on a tear...

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751237957699112977

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1751298893608845539

 

[JimY53]

View: https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751453541363802351?s=20

 

[BuffaloRam]

View: https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751453541363802351?s=20

I think this is a good hire for the Eagles

 

[OldSchool]

I think this is a good hire for the Eagles

Yeah good opportunity for him to rebound and grow his name again.

 

[dieterbrock]

Maybe the Bill who won with Cassell ain't the same Bill? People don't stay the same. They either improve or get worse. Constantly. Maybe he just kept getting worse and the improvement that he may have had hasn't been enough.

Oh I dont disagree on that, I've said repeatedly that I wouldnt want him. He's washed IMO and I think his only motivation is to get the wins record at this point. Im not hiring a guy with that as the motivator.
What I dont agree with is an assertion that his desire to bring his own staff is why they wouldnt hire him. That's just ridiculous. You hire the guy to do things his way, any owner making decisions on who his coaching staff is would be a fool.
Either way, I was hoping he'd get a job so we could see him fail miserably in his last days and go out with his tail between his legs
Alas

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Oh I dont disagree on that, I've said repeatedly that I wouldnt want him. He's washed IMO and I think his only motivation is to get the wins record at this point. Im not hiring a guy with that as the motivator.
What I dont agree with is an assertion that his desire to bring his own staff is why they wouldnt hire him. That's just ridiculous. You hire the guy to do things his way, any owner making decisions on who his coaching staff is would be a fool.
Either way, I was hoping he'd get a job so we could see him fail miserably in his last days and go out with his tail between his legs
Alas

I wouldn't say he's washed as a coach as I think he would definitely make a great D coordinator if his ego allowed it. I agree though that I wouldn't hire him as a head coach since I doubt he's got much longer to coach before hanging em up. Other problem is that the rumor is that he wants more control which as New England found out, is not good at all.

 

[OldSchool]

Either way, I was hoping he'd get a job so we could see him fail miserably in his last days and go out with his tail between his legs

I was thinking the same and that would have been delicious. But him flat out not even getting a job is a really close victory to me

 

[Allen2McVay]

View: https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751453541363802351?s=20

One of the aspects of the NFL that I love most is the Story Lines for different teams.
Hell, I want everyone to lose but the Rams ... however, I enjoy the story lines.

Thea Eagles and Nick Sirianni should be an interesting one.

Sirianni was a young first time head coach, who hired two young coordinators in Shane Steichen (one year of OC experience) and Jonathan Gannon (first time DC); and the Eagles go to the playoffs in Year One and the Super Bowl in Year Two. And things look really bright.

Then, both young coordinators get head coaching jobs, and Sirianni hires two more young coordinators in Sean Desai (one year of DC experience) and Brian Johnson (first time NFL OC). Following a great start (10-1), the wheels come-off (1-6); and it's difficult to explain/understand what-the-fuck-happened.

Sirianni is retained but both of the young coordinators are dismissed.

The new hires are VERY experienced. Vic Fangio's first job as an NFL Defensive Coordinator was almost thirty years ago. Kellen Moore is young but already has five years experience as an Offensive Coordinator. Both have (at least appeared to have) enjoyed significant autonomy in their recent coordinator roles.

Is that going to be a little bit of a Dream Team of coaches? How will that work out. Usually, it does not.

How much of these hires were Sirianni's decision vs. Howie Roseman and/or Jeffrey Lurie input?
Will Sirianni have any real role with the Defense?
Will Sirianni control Moore, or will Moore have autonomy?
If one side of the ball far-out-plays the other, will there be some diss-harmony?

That should be a fun watch in 2024. I love football ... and ...

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Why would who Belichick wants to bring along as coaches deter teams?
I hate him as much as the next guy and am not in defense of him, but if you're hiring the guy to be HC, he's got to be able to hire his own staff

So many pundits claimed he’d be on every owners list and would be the first guy hired. I mentioned early in this thread, that he would bring his posse with him and recreate that same dour Patriots atmosphere wherever they go. It makes sense that it wouldn’t be so appealing.

Patricia has proven to be difficult to work with. So has McDaniels. Neither are player coaches and both hold grudges against players.
Which owner would do that to their players?

Besides, asking coaches who they would bring in as their assistants is always a part of the hiring process.

I'm just gonna add on BB...
Sure.. he had the good year with Cassell... Cassell also won 10 games one year with KC .. with Todd Haley as HC.
BB, imo.. had a run fueled by, arguably, the greatest QB of all time.. playing on and under market value contract. His wife was making the money. When Tom wanted to get paid.. as he deserved.. BB let him go.

BB has had losing seasons 3 of last 4 years.. why do we think he, along with his current brain trust, can win?

Let's compare this to McVay.. who.. after one, sub-par season.. blew out a well-respected DC.. and brought in a guy with no experience as a DC... and changed defenses around the league.
And then... after one losing season... Sean shook things up a bunch.. bringing in new blood from all around the league, guys he never had worked with... like Staley.

You're dynamic and flexible, or you're not, imo. Especially when you underperform.

Agreed. If Belichick said he was looking at several different coaches with new ideas, I think he gets a job.

 

[OldSchool]

Chargers OC's and the Eagles. Name a better combo

Reich
Steichen
Moore

 

[dieterbrock]

If Belichick said he was looking at several different coaches with new ideas, I think he gets a job.

And that would be a tragic and embarrassing mistake. Hiring a guy and expecting him to be an innovator at 72 years old, who's been doing things his way for the last 30 years ? Good gracious.
Again, I think anyone hiring Belichick at this stage would be making a mistake, the game passed him by.
The only thing attractive about him as a candidate is his previous history, and if that's what he can re-create, he'd be a great hire. That's the only reason you consider him. So for him to get as far as he did in the process, and there being any sort of surprise that he'd have his staff lined up is just crazy.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

And that would be a tragic and embarrassing mistake. Hiring a guy and expecting him to be an innovator at 72 years old, who's been doing things his way for the last 30 years ? Good gracious.
Again, I think anyone hiring Belichick at this stage would be making a mistake, the game passed him by.
The only thing attractive about him as a candidate is his previous history, and if that's what he can re-create, he'd be a great hire. That's the only reason you consider him. So for him to get as far as he did in the process, and there being any sort of surprise that he'd have his staff lined up is just crazy.

I didn’t think he’d get a job. It was obvious that he’s too set in his ways, especially with his staff. However, if he showed that he was open to trying some new ideas and giving up some control to a younger staff, then he may have been hired.

Claiming it would or would not have been a success is speculation. I agree that it’s doubtful. But that’s not what you were talking about. It was just about him being hired and owners and GMs not wanting his old crew to come along.

And I’d never wanting him as the head coach of the Rams.

 

[dieterbrock]

I didn’t think he’d get a job. It was obvious that he’s too set in his ways, especially with his staff. However, if he showed that he was open to trying some new ideas and giving up some control to a younger staff, then he may have been hired.

Still avoiding the point, he is who he is, and there isnt a soul on the plant who would think he was going to change. And honestly, who would want him to? They knew what they were getting from the first conversation they had. They hired the right guy IMO, he was the guy I said weeks ago was the guy. All I know is that making it out that him wanting his guys was the smoking gun that cost him the job to me is a bit farcical. Its like saying Antarctica was a lead candidate for a tropical vacation until it was discovered that its freakin cold

 

[Allen2McVay]

Wondering if Belichick becomes a more attractive head coach option in 2025.

Thinking of teams with high-expectations that could fall short; or teams that may have coaches in a precarious situation for the upcoming season ... just a few thoughts ... Buffalo, Dallas, NY Giants.

Of course, I don't know but it's fun to speculate.

Not a fan of Belichick but I would like to see him in a booth. Think he might be entertaining talking football.
I have to watch most games now with the sound turned-off. I feel like Romo does not prepare or really care, Olsen is just speaking in cliches and reading off-a-script and Collinsworth is in perpetual shill-robot form.

 

[OldSchool]

Bellicheat isn't the same coach anymore that won all those Super Bowls. We've seen that since Brady left. His player control led to a terrible offense with no playmakers and no QB.

We also know that he falls back on his guys when a coordinator position is needed to be filled on his team. He brought Patricia back hell the fool even had him call plays on offense. And when that didn't work like we all knew it wouldn't who did he bring in? Another one of his old boys in Bill O'Brien. Add to that at least one of his sons is a coach on the staff.

He wasn't changing hell he hasn't in years. As for why he was even interviewed how could you go in to a coaching hire phase and not interview him?