Black Monday- Coaching Turnover Time

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So let me get this straight. You got Tomlin to step down because he wasn't winning in the playoffs. You hired a guy who coached Dallas for 5 years. Made the playoffs 3 of them and was one and done in all 3?

Bad owners are bad what a terrible hire.
 
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Allen2McVay said:
A day or two ago, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero was on the Rich Eisen Show and discussed the Cleveland Browns' head coaching search process and the depth of its commitment to Analytics.

It was the Browns that hired baseball guy Paul DePodesta as their Chief Strategy Officer; and he was with them for about 7-8 years before returning to MLB (Rockies). DePodesta was a top Analytics-guy.

Pelissero's comments (I'm sure they can easily be found) were about how specific and detailed analytics were to the Browns' head coaching search process, saying that their process was 'Unlike any in the NFL'

He said they were a 'data driven organization', spending an 'extraordinary amount of time gathering data'.
And that included candidates filing-out 'Questionnaires', taking a 'Personality Test' and 'Writing an Essay', with 'Home-work Assignments' after each round of interviews.

Now, I am not surprised that Analytics have become a part of the NFL but Pelissero's comments shocked me.
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Numbers are only as good as the formula. How the fuck do you quantify a coach with numbers. The only numbers that mater are wins and losses. How you lead men can't be quantified.
 
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WestCoastRam said:
Just wow. I think he's probably gotten too much heat for the end of Packers tenure but this feels like a Jeff Fisher hire. Straight down the middle with only a little upside.
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Odd hire for Pittsburgh. They tend to hire younger, under the radar guys, that end up coaching there for 15+ yrs. McCarthy, in his 60's, more of a short term guy I would think.
 
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OldSchool said:
So let me get this straight. You got Tomlin to step down because he wasn't winning in the playoffs. You hired a guy who coached Dallas for 5 years. Made the playoffs 3 of them and was one and done in all 3?

Bad owners are bad what a terrible hire.
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Yeah this is a totally bizarre hire by the Steelers organization. Shocking actually. I could understand if it were someone like Harbaugh. Very weird.
 
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majrleaged said:
looks more and more like we will hang on to our DC. I don't think any of the jobs left would be good for him.
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I think you gotta kick the tires on the Bills and Raiders if I'm him (and timing allows). As bad as front office seems with Bills you get a top 3 QB and Raiders gonna get Mendoza and I think Spytek is no dummy so there's a chance to get things turned around in the front office there.

Shula probably doesn't want the others, he's pulled out of Cleveland already.
 
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DzRams said:
Isn't this a Pittsburgh value?

They hired Tomlin who reports indicate preferred player personnel to be safe and have high floors even at the expense of upside. I think it's a Steeler value, likely starting at the top.
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Yeah that might be true. If I remember Tomlin's hire, it was a weird fit. Decent D coordinator but they still had and kept Dick LaBleu.

I don't know. Maybe it just seems weird cause he's a retread and Tomlin and Cowher were not?
 
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WestCoastRam said:
Yeah that might be true. If I remember Tomlin's hire, it was a weird fit. Decent D coordinator but they still had and kept Dick LaBleu.

I don't know. Maybe it just seems weird cause he's a retread and Tomlin and Cowher were not?
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It does seem like a weird hire. I gotta think that its because of Rodgers.
 
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Bad hire or whatever, incredible that he will have coached 3 of the most iconic NFL franchises. Green Bay, Dallas and Pittsburgh. Who else can lay claim to that? I was beginning to think the rest of the teams with openings (except Buffalo/Daboll) were waiting for this week's games to end or possibly after the Super Bowl. I thought Shula & Kubiak were on their way to HC gigs. Still might be. Have fun with that.....34 coaches hired from 2020-2024 and 24 are already gone.
 
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OldSchool said:
So let me get this straight. You got Tomlin to step down because he wasn't winning in the playoffs. You hired a guy who coached Dallas for 5 years. Made the playoffs 3 of them and was one and done in all 3?

Bad owners are bad what a terrible hire.
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It’s amazing for us and all I care about. If we can retain both Shula and Scheelhaase (sp?), I’d be thrilled!
 
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Well now we get to see if the Steelers ownership is more patient than the rest of the league, or if they have simply benefitted from great hires.

I'm betting it's the latter. So I'll give McCarthy 2 years.
 
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