Black Monday- Coaching Turnover Time
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Undeniable fit. Congrats to Giants fans, they might actually make the playoffs once in a while now.
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I think its a bad hire, but time will tell.
Feels like Dan Reeves 2.0
But older....
Feels like Dan Reeves 2.0
But older....
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1st off, this is my 2nd time agreeing with you today ... that's my quota ... so no more today.
I kind of agree. The Dan Reeves comparison is excellent ... Reeves took-over a ten-loss team, and the Giants won 20 games in his first two seasons.
I think of it as a good, solid hire because of where the Giants are right now (and have been for some time). They are a Mess; and Harbaugh can/will bring ... in the short-term ... stability, professionalism, organization.
I live in NYC, and watch just about every snap of the Jets and Giants' seasons ... it's been painful.
In my opinion, the three-win Jets lack talent but the four-win Giants have pretty good talent. Unfortunately, that means the Giants are huge under-achievers. They are (my opinion) a team filled with Knuckle-heads.
That's were John Harbaugh can have a really good short-term impact. I see them being competitive next year ... 7-10 wins. However, I don't know that I see long-term, high-level success under Harbaugh.
He will be 64 next September; and, I can't ignore that in his 1st Five years, Harbaugh won 9 playoff games ... but in the past Thirteen years (with talented teams and a two-time MVP at QB) he won just 4 playoff games.
By the way, the VERY EARLY BUZZ from New York Sports Media ... which is usually AWFUL because it is almost always in the Extreme (things are either Great or Terrible) is that this hiring is GREAT!!!
Reeves never won a Super Bowl and IMO, seems like a perfect fit. John Harbaugh is a very good football coach and the Giants needed someone of that ilk. The Giants have many key pieces to be like the Bears and Patriots of 2026.
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Coughlin didnt win or get to a Superbowl before coaching the Giants
Excellent point.
He HAS to have new ideas because all of the coaches he faces are familiar with the things he likes to do.
I am confused, he did not get to a Superbowl, but he was 68-60 with Jacksonville, which he took over as an expansion team and was 4-4 in post season advancing to the conference championship twice. Is that not winning?
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I just found it funny that you discredited Reeves for not having won a Superbowl and yet responded with a coach who also hadnt, nor even coached in one
I imagine he and Mara will laugh at the same Dad jokes and golf poorly together. Harbaugh's not in McVay's class but he is very good and the best hire that organization has made in a long time. Probably since Parcells off the top of my head.
All that aside I think Schoen is a problem as GM. I wanted to choke him watching that Hard Knocks series. Hard to imagine Harbaugh will enjoy working with him.
Well, I guess that is fair because at the time Reeves had lost 3 Super Bowls, but had been there. I just never was a fan of Dan Reeves, although back in 1978 before Carroll Rosenbloom hired George Allen, Steve Rosenbloom and Don Klosterman felt that Dan Reeves would be the best hire. Reeves was hired 3 years later in Denver.
I don't disagree about Schoen, but some of his draft choices have hit, although I do not give him any credit Jaxson Dart because Daboll was pounding the table for Dart and forced the Giants to make that move up in the draft to take him.
Watching FTF, Chris Broussard agrees with Orlovsky that Harbaugh is a great hire but his comments leading up to it, really ring true.
"Giants fans should be happy? We're talking about a guy who couldn't get to the postseason with Lamar Jackson at QB and Derrick Henry at RB!!!! We're talking about a guy who's blown the most double digit second half leads the last 5 years!!!! And the Giants had 5 of them this year....he's gonna fix that?"
I wonder. I really do.
As far as Pittsburgh and Tomlin go, somebody said something about the Steelers caring more about not having a losing season than winning it all. Dan Rooney II said as much today. "We want to compete for the Super Bowl every year". Sure who doesn't. But what's been brought to light is they are so concerned about going 9-8 rather than 3-14, that they always have a lousy draft spot. So they can't get a franchise QB. And the viscous cycle continues. Mike Tomlin supposedly likes older players and older coaches so the floor is higher, therefore they're always around or above .500. But the ceiling is lower (7 straight postseason losses).
"Giants fans should be happy? We're talking about a guy who couldn't get to the postseason with Lamar Jackson at QB and Derrick Henry at RB!!!! We're talking about a guy who's blown the most double digit second half leads the last 5 years!!!! And the Giants had 5 of them this year....he's gonna fix that?"
I wonder. I really do.
As far as Pittsburgh and Tomlin go, somebody said something about the Steelers caring more about not having a losing season than winning it all. Dan Rooney II said as much today. "We want to compete for the Super Bowl every year". Sure who doesn't. But what's been brought to light is they are so concerned about going 9-8 rather than 3-14, that they always have a lousy draft spot. So they can't get a franchise QB. And the viscous cycle continues. Mike Tomlin supposedly likes older players and older coaches so the floor is higher, therefore they're always around or above .500. But the ceiling is lower (7 straight postseason losses).