BAL tosses back to WR w/AD bearing down!!

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If I recall correctly, they called unnecessary roughness.
I just rewatched it and you're right -- it was the announcers who suggested a crack back block.

After the block, the play by play guy yells excitedly, "Nice block by Sony Michel!" (without a momentary thought that it might be illegal). Then after the flag was thrown, Olsen speculated it was a crack back block, saying "he didn't hit him high, you're just not allowed to block going back toward the line of scrimmage" (which may be true in some cases, but this is clearly not one of them).

Then the over-officiating, game-influencing zebras huddled and called it a personal foul, never bothering to explain why it was one.

Here's the play, around the 58 minute mark...

 
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if you are facing your own end zone. you aren't allowed to throw a block like that
Yeah the NFL is full of all kinds of safety rules now. A guy who's played football big time football for the last 6-10 years and much more at the lower instructional level is supposed to ignore his initial reaction, stop and stand in the way instead of blocking! They also have to be aware if they're coming at the ball carrier at top speed, they have to be able to divert their head to the side if he lowers his helmet but many times that alteration causes helmet to helmet anyway. When rushing the QB, you can't hit him around the head and neck even if your arms are up to block the pass. You can't hit him low, even if you trip. And by all means, you can't take more than a step and a half after he releases the ball. Where are defenders supposed to keep their calculators and slide rules????? All because the lawyers told them "you have to appear like you're concerned with concussions". It's all a public perception thing because even lineman who don't collide at high speed but repeatedly bang helmets during the course of a game, end up with CTE (the very first case was a C). It's really unavoidable. Play football long enough at any position except PK or P and there's a pretty good chance you end up with CTE.
 

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Yeah the NFL is full of all kinds of safety rules now. A guy who's played football big time football for the last 6-10 years and much more at the lower instructional level is supposed to ignore his initial reaction, stop and stand in the way instead of blocking! They also have to be aware if they're coming at the ball carrier at top speed, they have to be able to divert their head to the side if he lowers his helmet but many times that alteration causes helmet to helmet anyway. When rushing the QB, you can't hit him around the head and neck even if your arms are up to block the pass. You can't hit him low, even if you trip. And by all means, you can't take more than a step and a half after he releases the ball. Where are defenders supposed to keep their calculators and slide rules?????
Slide rules? What is the this, the 1960's? Are you one of my high school math teachers? Cell phones man. Cell phones!

In all seriousness, I bet TO would have kept his cell on him on the field of he was playing today.
 

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I just rewatched it and you're right -- it was the announcers who suggested a crack back block.

After the block, the play by play guy yells excitedly, "Nice block by Sony Michel!" (without a momentary thought that it might be illegal). Then after the flag was thrown, Olsen speculated it was a crack back block, saying "he didn't hit him high, you're just not allowed to block going back toward the line of scrimmage" (which may be true in some cases, but this is clearly not one of them).

Then the over-officiating, game-influencing zebras huddled and called it a personal foul, never bothering to explain why it was one.

Here's the play, around the 58 minute mark...


i just posted the video of juju smith crackback blocking burfict exactly the same way.

it's a penalty.

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i just posted the video of juju smith crackback blocking burfict exactly the same way.

it's a penalty.

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Not according to the rulebook from what I can find.

EDIT: I was wrong. 221 instances of the word block (I didn't think crackback would actually be in the book) appear in the rulebook. It took me to long to find it. Based on what happened on the play, they must believe that Michel hit him in the head. I don't specifically remember that, but oh well.

ARTICLE 6. CRACKBACK BLOCK
All Crackback Blocks are illegal. It is a Crackback Block if the following conditions are fulfilled:

The block occurs within an area five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage, including within close-line play, by an offensive player who is moving toward the position from which the ball was snapped; and

the offensive player was in a set position and aligned more than two yards outside an offensive tackle (flexed) when the ball was snapped; or
the offensive player was in a backfield position when the ball was snapped and moved to a position more than two yards outside an offensive tackle; or
the offensive player was in a backfield position and in motion when the ball was snapped.
Note: If there is a broken play, significantly changing the original direction, the crackback block is legal. When the change in direction is the result of a designed play (reverse), the restriction remains in effect.
The following is prohibited against a player who is the recipient of a Crackback Block:

Contacting him below the waist;
forcibly hitting his head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck;
lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the defensive player’s body; or
illegally launching into him. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet to initiate forcible contact against any part of his opponent’s body. (This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be a defenseless player, as defined in Article 9.)
Note: A player who initiates contact against such an opponent is responsible for avoiding an illegal act. A standard of strict liability applies for any contact against an opponent, even if his body position is in motion, and irrespective of any acts by him, such as ducking his head or curling up his body in anticipation of contact.

Penalty: For a crackback block: Loss of 15 yards.
 
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Any of us mere mortals, would be in the ER 30 minutes later with 8 cracked ribs......
And that would be from Aaron Donald just looking at one of us with bad intent.
Forget about the result that would come from him executing it....
 

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i just posted the video of juju smith crackback blocking burfict exactly the same way.

it's a penalty.

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Two different plays.

burfict never seen it coming. The block from Sony, the guy clearly seen that he was going to be blocked.
 

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Two different plays.

burfict never seen it coming. The block from Sony, the guy clearly seen that he was going to be blocked.
I posted the actual rule a little earlier in the thread. Actually you totally can hit them, looking or not. It's hitting them in the head, below the waist, or with your head that's a problem.
 

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I just rewatched it and you're right -- it was the announcers who suggested a crack back block.

After the block, the play by play guy yells excitedly, "Nice block by Sony Michel!" (without a momentary thought that it might be illegal). Then after the flag was thrown, Olsen speculated it was a crack back block, saying "he didn't hit him high, you're just not allowed to block going back toward the line of scrimmage" (which may be true in some cases, but this is clearly not one of them).

Then the over-officiating, game-influencing zebras huddled and called it a personal foul, never bothering to explain why it was one.

Here's the play, around the 58 minute mark...

Personal foul had to be helmet to helmet contact, which it barely was.

BTW what is that site? I thought the only way to get game replays was through NFL approved sites like GamePass.
 

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I posted the actual rule a little earlier in the thread. Actually you totally can hit them, looking or not. It's hitting them in the head, below the waist, or with your head that's a problem.
He did none of the them as far as I can see. I think it was more of a reactionary call than an actual rule violation.
 

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Personal foul had to be helmet to helmet contact, which it barely was.

BTW what is that site? I thought the only way to get game replays was through NFL approved sites like GamePass.
Yeah, could've been head to head, though Sony did aim lower than the head and Olsen even remarked that he didn't hit him high. But the violence of the hit probably is what drew the flag.

That site shows all the games free.
 

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He did none of the them as far as I can see. I think it was more of a reactionary call than an actual rule violation.
It says "any part of the helmet". Any tackle with the shoulder involves some part of the helmet. There's how the body is built, your shoulders have to follow your head. I think any block that doesn't involve extended arms in that scenario is going to get called because of to easy to say that some tiny part of the helmet touched the player.
 

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i just posted the video of juju smith crackback blocking burfict exactly the same way.

it's a penalty.

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No. It was just called one by an over officious crew. It 1000000% was NOT a crackback as you stated it was.
 

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Yeah, could've been head to head, though Sony did aim lower than the head and Olsen even remarked that he didn't hit him high. But the violence of the hit probably is what drew the flag.

That site shows all the games free.
Is it really league affiliated or something that will be shut down by next year?