Baker Mayfield

[dieterbrock]

 

[wolfdogg]

Let me put this out there. Baker Mayfield by the Numbers.

With Hue Jackson as head coach. 8 Games. 2-5-1
130/223 attempts. 58.3% 1471 yards. 6.6 yards per attempt. 9 Td's 8 Ints. Average QB rating, 81.7 Avg 16.25 points per game

Since Jackson left 2-1

65/88 Attempts. 73.9% 771 yards 8.1 yards per attempt, 9 Td's 1 Ints. Average QB rating 130.0 Avg 28 points per game.

Hue definately shit the bed on designing an offense for baker, as he admitted, but baker still hasn't done anything. The 2 defenses he beat were Atlanta and cinci and Chubb scored 4 tds in those games including a 94 yard run. Ill wait until after the year is done before I start thinking one way or another as to how he stacks up as a player. For the browns sake, I hope he pans out.

 

[Raptorman]

Hue definately crap the bed on designing an offense for baker, as he admitted, but baker still hasn't done anything. The 2 defenses he beat were Atlanta and cinci and Chubb scored 4 tds in those games including a 94 yard run. Ill wait until after the year is done before I start thinking one way or another as to how he stacks up as a player. For the browns sake, I hope he pans out.

So if one said, Goff isn't that impressive because half the defenses he beat were the Niners, Raiders, Packers and Cardinals you would be okay with that? No, Yes he played two suspect defense, and the Chiefs. You play who you play. IF Mayfield keeps up like the last 3 games he will end up the year with 32 TD's and 9 INT's. Time will tell.

 

[wolfdogg]

So if one said, Goff isn't that impressive because half the defenses he beat were the Niners, Raiders, Packers and Cardinals you would be okay with that? No, Yes he played two suspect defense, and the Chiefs. You play who you play. IF Mayfield keeps up like the last 3 games he will end up the year with 32 TD's and 9 INT's. Time will tell.

Why would I say that about Goff when we've seen him beat the teams hes played over the last 2 years? Baker hasn't done anything close to that. I mean 3 games of stats? Seriously?

And you forgot to mention the vikings

 

[Raptorman]

Why would I say that about Goff when we've seen him beat the teams hes played over the last 2 years? Baker hasn't done anything close to that. I mean 3 games of stats? Seriously?

And you forgot to mention the vikings

AS you forgot to mention the fairly good game, even though they lost, he had against the Chiefs. I'm not saying he is the next Mahomes, but he is better without Jackson, that's for damn sure. Of course, Goff was how good his first year? And the coaching change...................didn't help Goff at all.

 

[wolfdogg]

AS you forgot to mention the fairly good game, even though they lost, he had against the Chiefs. I'm not saying he is the next Mahomes, but he is better without Jackson, that's for damn sure. Of course, Goff was how good his first year? And the coaching change...................didn't help Goff at all.

No one has said he isnt better off without hue. I even said hue screwed that up so not sure how you tie that into an unfounded Goff comparison. And why should I need to mention how good the vikes game was. We all saw it. You just didn't mention the game at all. Totally different.

 

[wolfdogg]

AS you forgot to mention the fairly good game, even though they lost, he had against the Chiefs. I'm not saying he is the next Mahomes, but he is better without Jackson, that's for damn sure. Of course, Goff was how good his first year? And the coaching change...................didn't help Goff at all.

How about this; after the season lets see what baker has done and then compare him to Goff. Right now, to compare him to anyone, not just Goff, but anyone, after 2 wins against 2 of the shittiest defenses in the keague, that just makes no sense at all. It sounds more like an attempt to justify hiis recent immature behavior.

 

[tklongball]

Baker Mayfield is the man. He's the future of this sport and he's really exciting to watch. I'll get shot down for this but one of the reasons Goff doesn't get much credit nationally (yet) is that he isn't a rah-rah guy. But this is a business and Baker is the product.

There's a thin line between arrogance and confidence and Baker walks that tightrope like a freaking gymnast.

Can't tell you how many times over the years I have heard this about different QBs. Still waiting for it to be right once. LOL

 

[OnceARam]

I'd take Baker over Hue in my locker room any day of the week and twice on Sunday!

Baker is a franchise QB and the leader of that team (that has sorely lacked leadership).

And by doing what he did, he made a statement that losing, and a losing culture, is unacceptable.

If I were a Browns fan I would be excited that someone actually wants to win!

 

[janthony6]

He just beat a few bad defenses and didn’t throw the ball all that much. Calm down on baker. Let’s see how he does this weekend.

 

[Rambitious1]

Hue was such an immense disappointment as a head coach. My opinion of the dude changed dramatically after watching Hard Knocks.

Way I look at it is Mayfield knows he can play in this league. He also knows Hue sucks and doesn't give a F what he thinks. And I seriously doubt that ever hurts him down the line. Only concern for him right now is whether the Browns can hire a good head coach and coordinator.

Addressing your last question as to whether the Browns can hire a good head coach and coordinator, looking at how their organization and system is set up I would say no they can’t .

If I’m a good head coach or even a good O coordinator candidate- there is no way I go into an organization where I have to run day-to-day decisions up to the owner/GM no freaking way I take that position .

 

[LesBaker]

Addressing your last question as to whether the Browns can hire a good head coach and coordinator, looking at how their organization and system is set up I would say no they can’t .

If I’m a good head coach or even a good O coordinator candidate- there is no way I go into an organization where I have to run day-to-day decisions up to the owner/GM no freaking way I take that position .

They hired John Dorsey, the guy who built the Chiefs roster for the most part, to revamp the team.

I'm not sure a HC or OC has to run anything by him or the owner though.

 

[Karate61]

Addressing your last question as to whether the Browns can hire a good head coach and coordinator, looking at how their organization and system is set up I would say no they can’t .

If I’m a good head coach or even a good O coordinator candidate- there is no way I go into an organization where I have to run day-to-day decisions up to the owner/GM no freaking way I take that position .

Just to add, that organization took "forever" to fire Jackson. That "organization" is dumber than dumb!

 

[Merlin]

Addressing your last question as to whether the Browns can hire a good head coach and coordinator, looking at how their organization and system is set up I would say no they can’t .

If I’m a good head coach or even a good O coordinator candidate- there is no way I go into an organization where I have to run day-to-day decisions up to the owner/GM no freaking way I take that position .

I wouldn't go there as a hot young HC candidate that's for sure, so agree with you there. But they did finally hire a real GM who might actually get the HC hire right.

Their probs definitely begin with the ownership though. Nothing I hate more than working for someone who is a second guesser and/or who is easily swayed by the opinions of others. Their owner strikes me as that kind of dude.

And I'll take an opportunity here once again to appreciate Stan. Dude stays out of it, ponies up the bucks, and provides what he has to in order to make our Rams the elite franchise they have become. We are very fortunate.

 

[Rambitious1]

They hired John Dorsey, the guy who built the Chiefs roster for the most part, to revamp the team.

I'm not sure a HC or OC has to run anything by him or the owner though.

True. Not sure if what Jackson said was accurate. I should have said if what H Jackson said was accurate it’s going to be hard hiring good people etc. Good people ‘usually’ don’t want to be micro-managed.

 

[thirteen28]

I heard that pretty much the entire Browns team felt the way Mayfield did, and when he spoke up, they considered him to be speaking up for all of them. No matter how it plays outside the Browns locker room, it will play well inside and that's what matters most to that organization.

 

[LesBaker]

I heard that pretty much the entire Browns team felt the way Mayfield did, and when he spoke up, they considered him to be speaking up for all of them. No matter how it plays outside the Browns locker room, it will play well inside and that's what matters most to that organization.

It went over very, very well with the team according to what I read. Jackson was not well liked I guess, or at least wasn't respected.

 

[thirteen28]

It went over very, very well with the team according to what I read. Jackson was not well liked I guess, or at least wasn't respected.

Yep, heard the same. And Mayfield gets points with the locker room because he's the one speaking up and taking the heat for it. His teammates will notice and appreciate that.

 

[NoCoNite]

The teams getting behind Baker more than they were Hue Jackson. The browns needed a leader. This kid is trying to lead. They look like a better team, which is crazy after losing an OC and a HC mid season.
The whole browns team was dogging Hue. Ward got an interception and ran and handed Hue the ball.
I think Goff is an amazing QB, but Goff looked just as bad when they fired Fish.
Bakers leading losers to a confident attitude.
I applaud him.

 

[99Balloons]

The Browns have the talent in place. And if they were to win the remaining games of the season, Gregg Williams should be the head coach for next year just to keep the consistency and stability of the organization. And Mayfield will benefit from that winning carryovers in 2019.