Annoyed with this 8 wide receiver stuff

[tklongball]

As of today, teams need to be down to 80 players, right? Not sure what you are annoyed with. They are using camp and preseason to whittle it down to who they are going to keep. Do you want them to cut down to 6 WR right now? They have another whole week to look at and evaluate these guys.

 

[RamFan503]

Why be annoyed? You would rather they do what you think instead of what the regime that just won a SB thinks? I don't.

 

[oldnotdead]

Short memories. The Rams needed 8 WR last year.

There are 3 WR positions that McVay uses on most plays. Being 2 deep at each is 6 WRs. Not everyone can play X WR so Allen Robinson and McCutcheon make them legitimately 2 deep at that position. In reality, they will be 7 deep with Harris as a developmental player, as Powell is a STs player, i.e. returner.

The Rams can go 8 on the active OL because they can stash one or two OL on the PS.

 

[rdlkgliders]

It really doesn't affect the overall number by relabeling them. WR/TE/KR-PR I think it still equals 10 give or take 1

 

[Rams43]

Got a ‘what if’ proposition for ya…

To help with the crowded WR room decision here are some thoughts.

Should VJ be put on pup to start the season? It’s a temporary fix, I know, but it does buy Rams a little time which they can use to evaluate WR’s in practice and perhaps in a few snaps on field before forced to make a final WR decision.

About Atwell. Is he really a lock beyond the first few games on this talented roster? He can’t block and he can’t help on teams, two things that McVay really treasures. Meanwhile , McCutcheon, Skow, and Harris are strong team players. Moreover, all the other top 6 WR’s have good size and catch radius advantage ( 2 things that Stafford loves) and Atwell doesn’t.

I guess that I’m suggesting that Atwell needs to really prove himself on the field and damned quickly if he hopes to be considered a top 4 WR on this team.

I just love the talent, versatility, and depth of the WR and CB rooms on this roster. Both are an embarrassment of riches.

 

[Riverumbbq]

No, we need our 3 best WR's on the field for any given play. Van Jefferson isn't a bauble to be toyed with. If he has a great season he will likely be considered for trade deadline movement. As it is he may be our best player to be used as trade bait following the season. jmo.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Got a ‘what if’ proposition for ya…

To help with the crowded WR room decision here are some thoughts.

Should VJ be put on pup to start the season? It’s a temporary fix, I know, but it does buy Rams a little time which they can use to evaluate WR’s in practice and perhaps in a few snaps on field before forced to make a final WR decision.

About Atwell. Is he really a lock beyond the first few games on this talented roster? He can’t block and he can’t help on teams, two things that McVay really treasures. Meanwhile , McCutcheon, Skow, and Harris are strong team players. Moreover, all the other top 6 WR’s have good size and catch radius advantage ( 2 things that Stafford loves) and Atwell doesn’t.

I guess that I’m suggesting that Atwell needs to really prove himself on the field and damned quickly if he hopes to be considered a top 4 WR on this team.

I just love the talent, versatility, and depth of the WR and CB rooms on this roster. Both are an embarrassment of riches.

I think the 3 game IR is a better solution, I too have thought that VJ may be unavailable at the onset of the season
If I am to understand pup vs IR at this point of the season, I may possibly have it twisted. If you are placed on the pup to start the season you must sit out 6 weeks but if you are put on short-term IR you can be out only 3 weeks. If this is right then IR is a better solution. This is based on the 2021 post-covid IR rule change that did away with the limited number of IR tags and converted this designation to be unlimited. Also, A player no longer needs to be out 8 weeks and can instead return after 3 weeks which is better than the 6 for the PUP designation when placed on PUP to start a season. I hope I have this right

 

[PhillyRam]

I think the 3 game IR is a better solution, I too have thought that VJ may be unavailable at the onset of the season
If I am to understand pup vs IR at this point of the season, I may possibly have it twisted. If you are placed on the pup to start the season you must sit out 6 weeks but if you are put on short-term IR you can be out only 3 weeks. If this is right then IR is a better solution. This is based on the 2021 post-covid IR rule change that did away with the limited number of IR tags and converted this designation to be unlimited. Also, A player no longer needs to be out 8 weeks and can instead return after 3 weeks which is better than the 6 for the PUP designation when placed on PUP to start a season. I hope I have this right

I thought PUP is only for players like Lake who have yet to participate in training camp.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I thought PUP is only for players like Lake who have yet to participate in training camp.

I am no authority but I believe that the pre-season and regular season have separate distinctions. Covid changed things a bit. It actually may now be 4 weeks minimum for pup in the regular season. I will look into it and if I dig up something I will post it. By all means if someone has the newest ruling I would like to read them

 

[fearsomefour]

Kupp, Robinson, Jefferson, Tutu, Skow are locks.
Now, the question is what is more valuable in the quest to keep the best 53?
Keeping a 4th RB like Funk or Ragas....keeping a blocking TE like Carter.....or keeping an 8th WR.
It really depends who those players are.
Chance that McCutcheon would make it to the PS without be poached by another team....about 0%.
Carter, Ragas, Funk etc, would very likely not get signed during waivers and make the PS.
By adding the extra receiver it allows the team to keep the most talent because the deep depth at TE and RB can be shifted to the PS.
That is the biggest reason to keep that many.
As an aside, I would have Trammell on the 53 as well.

 

[fearsomefour]

I

100%

I'd be down to keep Cutch & trade Jefferson for some OL help.

You forgot to sign Odell in that scenario.

 

[fearsomefour]

I know our OL back ups have every one worried, but i will remind you all how bad we thought Allen was. How un sure of our back ups last yeR after the pre season and then how well our back ups came thru in the covid game when playing along side starters.

Ol is about sinergy. How well they play as a unit. I dont think our OL is a weakness. I trust our coaching staff and if they see value in holding on to more receivers than usual, then im good with that.

This group play on the OL is always overlooked and you make a great point.
Take Shelton for example.
He was just ok in pre season playing with other guys who were not starters.
When he was forced into action, playing between starters he looked much better....this happens a lot. Especially when practice time with the same starters kicks in.
If there was good deal out there for a depth OL for say, a 6th round pick or something, I could see that happening.
But, I don't see the Rams making a move for an established starter.
I also don't see them trading for a back up really.
I could see them signing a cut vet after cut downs however.
Time will tell.....I think, overall, they like what they got.

 

[fearsomefour]

WR

Kupp
Robinson
Jefferson
Tutu
Skow
McCutcheon
Trammell
Harris

TE

Higbee
Hopkins

RB

Akers
Henderson
Williams

Powell designated as a KR


Carter and a couple of RBs to the practice squad.
Id also be searching cuts to see if there are any vet RB or TE that I liked to add to the PS as well.

I am also keeping 6 CBs and possibly 5 Safeties.

 

[rdlkgliders]

@PhillyRam @Rams43
There is a good article regarding the PUP/IR designation in the Athletic.
I will paraphrase the rule as best I can, It has once again been altered for the upcoming season.

A player that lands on the IR can return after 4 games BUT only if the player has been placed on the IR AFTER the cut to 53
A player on the Active/PUP after the cut to 80 will not count against the roster limit once shifted to Reserve/PUP, teams have until rosters are cut down to 53 to move a player to reserve/PUP which is a 4-game Minimum

Sorry for the confusion, this has been gelatinous since the onset of C19

 

[Merlin]

The Rams can go 8 on the active OL because they can stash one or two OL on the PS.

They can go 8 on the active OL because that's all they have. All teams can stash OL on the PS.

 

[OldSchool]

I am no authority but I believe that the pre-season and regular season have separate distinctions. Covid changed things a bit. It actually may now be 4 weeks minimum for pup in the regular season. I will look into it and if I dig up something I will post it. By all means if someone has the newest ruling I would like to read them

Yes preseason PUP is minimum 4 games missed in the regular season. Only difference is players that started camp on the PUP list can stay there for a certain time, which I forgot atm, but can come off and be fine.

 

[RamWoodie]

Call me crazy but I'm not a Skow fan. I was at first but I think he's trade bait. He just doesn't make the critical catches in my book. Perhaps he'll change my mind but I think he gets traded at this point.

 

[So Ram]

I’m looking at it as total of TE/WR. McVay looks to be rewriting the distinction a bit. Do with that said:
Locks (8): Kupp, ARob, Jefferson, Atwell, Skow, Powell, Higbee, Hopkins
Probable (2): McCutcheon, Harris
(PS): Trammell, Carter

Thought that it would have been only 2 TE’s last season,plus extra WR’s.

I think the numbers don’t lie.

Jake Funk gets cut

 

[Kupped]

Hot take coming in…
Powell won’t last the season on the roster if Kyren Williams can be decent at returns.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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You know what, I couldn't give a fuck how the Rams make up their roster. They know what they're doing.

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