Allen Robinson II

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fearsomefour

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I do think it's time to mix McClutcheon in. Kupp / Robinson / McClutch is one big and physically imposing WR group. Yeah they're not fast. So what.
I was thinking of McCutcheon in the role that Skowronek has been playing.
Skowronek has the third highest separation rate in the NFL at this point however (got that stat from Jake E).
I think the most likely scenario is Jefferson coming back and that allowing Robinson to be used more in line with his talents.....or maybe that is overly optimistic.
 

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He was never fast, and that's the problem. The Rams have no speed at receiver other than atwell, who doesn't play much as we know.
Atwell will get more looks.....I predict three deep balls to him this Sunday.
He runs past everyone.
Stafford having to find him.......?
 

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To get ARob going I'd like to see a game plan that kind of forces the passing offense to go through him. Atleast for a little while. Can't repeatedly go 3 and out to make it happen but he needs to be more of a focal point on offense. Give him more opportunities and maybe he catches fire.
 

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The problem with forcing the ball to Robinson is if he's thinking still and trying to master the offense and its nuances there's a greater chance of getting incompletions or INTs. Because guys who are thinking are potentially in the wrong spot, whether it's due to running the wrong route or not moving as fast as a guy who is just playing. And this is a game of inches.

So if that is the situation McVay would be well within his rights to tail back some of Robinson's snaps. Take some from him and give them to McClutch and see how he does. This might be the direction the Rams are heading, at least that is my hope.

In this type of scenario there's a lot of pressure on the player. Robinson is not some shitter of a player who doesn't care about his product on the field. He's feeling the heat so that has the ability to take some of it off him and accept that the goal is to win right now and get him ready for the playoff stretch that we hope is still in play for us.
 

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Good point and I had thought of that but other than running the wrong route and Stafford missing him I have no way of knowing if Robinsons problem is not having the offense down. On the McCutcheon thing I'm not sure if that's the answer. He's been here just as long as ARob why would he have a better understanding of the offense than ARob? Not trying to be a smart ass so please don't take it that way.
 

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Id like to get McCutcheon some snaps for the same reason we play Tutu or Sko; to keep the defenses guessing and give them different looks to think about. Maybe we catch lightning in a bottle and find a player that shows they're a playmaker on gamedays. As for feeding ARob, it would be mainly as a confidence builder and establish some chemistry and trust with him and Stafford. A handful of passes/plays made for him like how we established Obj. Once Stafford can trust to throw his way more, the more our offense opens up and not all Kupp focused
 

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This might be the reason we didn’t see any outward excitement after his signing coming from his former teammates in Ramsey…


Maybe he’s just not that good
 

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No, tonight is his FIRST start...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/Commodes-start-brian-robinson-jr-second-career-game-shooting-report
 

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Id like to get McCutcheon some snaps for the same reason we play Tutu or Sko; to keep the defenses guessing and give them different looks to think about. Maybe we catch lightning in a bottle and find a player that shows they're a playmaker on gamedays. As for feeding ARob, it would be mainly as a confidence builder and establish some chemistry and trust with him and Stafford. A handful of passes/plays made for him like how we established Obj. Once Stafford can trust to throw his way more, the more our offense opens up and not all Kupp focused
Hopefully Carolina cooperates and serves as good win to head into our bye.

I wish they didn’t just do a coaching change. Teams tend to respond to moves like that.
 
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He was never fast, and that's the problem. The Rams have no speed at receiver other than atwell, who doesn't play much as we know.

I wish that everyone would stop saying that we have no speed at receiver.

Did anyone catch Kupp from behind on his TD against Dallas? Can anyone cover him one on one? He's not just quick, the man plays football fast.

Kupp is the focal point of opponents' defence, and yet they still can't handle him.

People foolishly always track back to 40 combine times when assessing a player's speed and they don't factor actual playing speed.

The fact is that ARob plays extremely slow and very passively. He appears hesitant and without aggression.

I honestly only recall seeing him play a few times with the Bears and I didn't pay particular attention to him, so I have no point of comparison.

Hwever, I am completely unimpressed with Robinson's route running and there's nothing in his play that suggests that he can be a dynamic receiver.

We need more playmakers on offence and we've got to give some of our other receivers an opportunity to see if they can offer something.

Frankly, I like what I am seeing from Powell when he gets the ball in his hands.

Skrow's been getting open. We should have gone back to Tutu in the Dallas game and McCutcheon has to be given a look.

ARob's been so bad that even in 3 WR sets, teams don't have to focus on Robinson.

I'm hoping that Kyren Williams is a baller so that Cam Akers can be completely phased out. Clearly, drafting another running back is a huge priority for next year.

He has shown nothing and let's hope that we can move him out for even a late round draft pick.

Let's hope that McVay is looking at all options, because in spite of how poorly we've played, we're still in a position to get something done this year.
 

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I honestly don't remember Robinson doing much of anything since his first year or two in Jax....
 

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What happened to all those glowing training camp reports sounded like he was killing it.
 

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The Rams Oline is a disaster. The Rams have a bye week up next.

Benching Robinson at this point would make little sense.

Hopefully the bye week gives the Rams much needed rest and recuperation as well as time for McVay, Stafford and ARob to figure it out.

if ARob has nothing left in the tank, the coaches must certainly be able to see at practice. No signs of this yet.
 

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Liam Coen says Allen Robinson's involvement in Rams offense is secondary to fixing issues on offensive line​


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Week 1 Sko ran a deep post and Stafford through it to him. But Sko looked like he was lost and just sort of trailed off the post looking dazed and confused. I don't have the all-22 to screen capture it for you but if you have it check it out.
Wait, you mean the deep post that Stafford threw it way past him? That ball was uncatchable. You could make an argument that he ran the wrong route, but you can't really say he didn't track it well. That ball was 15 yards past him and behind him.

For Reference, that pass is at 3:55 into the video linked below:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp16SQy-aBU
 

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Liam from the article above.

"He effectively told the media that until issues with his front five are fixed, the utilization of Robinson’s talents will be a secondary consideration, as quarterback Matthew Stafford would have a hard time getting him the ball without a proper pocket to throw from."

I agree that Stafford is under way too much pressure right now. Defenses can sit on routes and play close coverage knowing the offensive line can't hold up.

From my limited TV/Internet view I have seen much separation from Robinson.

The Rams have to give him, Stafford and the offensive line a little more time to gel. I still wonder if Robinson lost a step or two at the age of 29.
 

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Liam from the article above.

"He effectively told the media that until issues with his front five are fixed, the utilization of Robinson’s talents will be a secondary consideration, as quarterback Matthew Stafford would have a hard time getting him the ball without a proper pocket to throw from."

I agree that Stafford is under way too much pressure right now. Defenses can sit on routes and play close coverage knowing the offensive line can't hold up.

From my limited TV/Internet view I have seen much separation from Robinson.

The Rams have to give him, Stafford and the offensive line a little more time to gel. I still wonder if Robinson lost a step or two at the age of 29.
Always a good idea to keep the main thing the main thing.....Offensive Line!

However, if Evans is the answer to the main thing............:censored:
 

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First 5 games:

2022

Robert Woods - 17 rec for 204 yards (12.0 avg), 1 TD (leads Titans in rec)
Allen Robinson - 12 rec for 107 yards (8.9) avg), 1 TD

2021
Robert Woods - 28 rec for 322 yards (11.5 avg), 2 TD
Allen Robinson - 17 rec for 181 yards (10.6 avg), 1 TD
Odell Beckham - 16 rec for 211 yards (13.2 avg), 3 TD (game 10-14)
 

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I'll agree with the OP that Allen Robinson does not look good, but there is no reason to sit him right now. The only receiver worth his contract at the moment is Cooper Kupp and that's probably because Stafford is under so much pressure that he only looks to Kupp and sometimes Higbee. I don't think Robinson forgot how to play. And he's only received 23 targets and 12 receptions out of 300+ plays. Tough to keep your head in the game when you are just a decoy. JMO.

I don't think we dump Robinson but maybe rotate other receivers in and let him observe. Maybe Tutu and McCutcheon can make some plays. We need production and Robinson isn't providing it. I'm really amazed and how much Kupp is producing when hardly anyone else is.