7th Round / Pick #242 Konata Mumpfield, WR, Pittsburgh

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It is definitely a prove it contract. Not to prove it to the Rams, but to prove it to the league. If they could have gotten better for the money in the FA market they would have. They want better and will go elsewhere as soon as they can. I am not sure they think he can hold up physically as a full time starter.
They knew he was a small dude when they drafted him, why spend a 2nd rd pick on him if they didn't think they he could hold up a full season? Why wait til season 4 to show case him just to prove to the league if he can last as a starter, and if he can, why let him go?? Your basically saying they are paying him 10 mil to see if he can last a season...what have they been doing the last 3 when they had him on the cheap??
 

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I'll also point out that Robinson left for a 6 mil guaranteed contract, totalling 9.5 for 2 yrs. Tutu makes more than that plus 5 mil in incentives, so possibly 15 mil total for 1 yr and then "out the door"? Why let the guy who supposedly subplanted Tutu go for a smaller contract, but sign a guy to a more expensive "prove it" deal, just to let him walk the following year? There's got to be more to it. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense otherwise.
 

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They knew he was a small dude when they drafted him, why spend a 2nd rd pick on him if they didn't think they he could hold up a full season? Why wait til season 4 to show case him just to prove to the league if he can last as a starter, and if he can, why let him go?? Your basically saying they are paying him 10 mil to see if he can last a season...what have they been doing the last 3 when they had him on the cheap??
He wasn’t good enough to start over the top three. McVay didn’t sleep through the last few seasons. He’s so detailed and remembers everything. He didn’t miss something in Tutu’s game.
 

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I'll also point out that Robinson left for a 6 mil guaranteed contract, totalling 9.5 for 2 yrs. Tutu makes more than that plus 5 mil in incentives, so possibly 15 mil total for 1 yr and then "out the door"? Why let the guy who supposedly subplanted Tutu go for a smaller contract, but sign a guy to a more expensive "prove it" deal, just to let him walk the following year? There's got to be more to it. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense otherwise.
Supposedly? He actually did supplant Tutu. Maybe this has something to do with Robinson’s DUI charges. Or it could simply be that they feel he is slowing down.

It’s a weak argument to pretend that Robinson didn’t take the third receiver job the last two years. Everyone knows he did.
 

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I think people are sleeping on this pick a bit. He's not Puka who just wins through physical dominance but a crafty route runner who can create separation outside of being schemed open. This pick makes sense for where he went in the draft and I've seen Diontae Johnson as a comparison which seems about right.

I think there's a role for him as a no.4/5 WR and they must see something on STs as well because he'll be required to play that to make the 53.
How about we just give the kid a fuckin chance right? Not like talking about him is going to change McVay's mind :laugh1:
 

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Supposedly? He actually did supplant Tutu. Maybe this has something to do with Robinson’s DUI charges. Or it could simply be that they feel he is slowing down.

It’s a weak argument to pretend that Robinson didn’t take the third receiver job the last two years. Everyone knows he did.
Wasn't an argument, I agree he took the third receiving job. I used the term "supposedly" facetiously, it just doesn't come across in text format. Sorry for the confusion. I just don't see the logic to let someone like Robinson walk for a cheaper deal while replacing him for the receiver he beat out and giving that player a more expensive contract, all just to prove something to the league for next season. I feel McVay has more in mind for Tutu. It seems like we may have to agree to disagree, brotherman.
 

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I am not sure they think he can hold up physically as a full time starter.
And there I think is a very good point. It’s worth it to them to do MAYBE a slight overpay for one year to see if he can hold up with more targets. That could really be all there is to it.
 

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They knew he was a small dude when they drafted him, why spend a 2nd rd pick on him if they didn't think they he could hold up a full season? Why wait til season 4 to show case him just to prove to the league if he can last as a starter, and if he can, why let him go?? Your basically saying they are paying him 10 mil to see if he can last a season...what have they been doing the last 3 when they had him on the cheap??
I don't have your answers. I just know that a one year deal is always going to have "prove it" baked in.
 
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I'll also point out that Robinson left for a 6 mil guaranteed contract, totalling 9.5 for 2 yrs. Tutu makes more than that plus 5 mil in incentives, so possibly 15 mil total for 1 yr and then "out the door"? Why let the guy who supposedly subplanted Tutu go for a smaller contract, but sign a guy to a more expensive "prove it" deal, just to let him walk the following year? There's got to be more to it. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense otherwise.
Outside of tds Tutu was the better reciver more yards on less targets and a better catch percentage and Tutu was graded as a better blocker … tbh kupp should have been taken off the field more in favor of tutu
 

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Outside of tds Tutu was the better reciver more yards on less targets and a better catch percentage and Tutu was graded as a better blocker … tbh kupp should have been taken off the field more in favor of tutu
Tutu is honestly a decent receiver but the perception of playing a guy the size of most freshmen in high school is hard to knock, even for a forward thinking coach like McVay. I really have to wonder what the thought process was on draft day if they haven't been able to get past that fact on Sundays..
 

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Outside of tds Tutu was the better reciver more yards on less targets and a better catch percentage and Tutu was graded as a better blocker … tbh kupp should have been taken off the field more in favor of tutu

You should have called McVay and told him to bench Kupp :laugh1:

I’m sure he’d appreciate the guidance.
 

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Tutu is honestly a decent receiver but the perception of playing a guy the size of most freshmen in high school is hard to knock, even for a forward thinking coach like McVay. I really have to wonder what the thought process was on draft day if they haven't been able to get past that fact on Sundays..
Well if McVay's plan is to run more 12 sets, with a big bodied MFer in that slot, then keeping Tutu around as your WR3 sort of makes sense. I think it was too expensive and I don't believe in Tutu in general, but he knows the offense, adds the speed we badly require outside that hash, and maybe he's been turning a corner in practice to where they figure the dice roll is worth it.

I do expect more 12. So your weapons on many snaps will be Adams, Nacua, Higs, Ferguson, and Williams. Rotational depth for WR is decent with Tutu, Whit, Smith, and some intriguing kids coming in this year. RB depth is best we've had in a while. And TE actually has some depth now.

I don't think we have a top 5 collection of weapons or anything. But it's definitely a top ten-ish group if Ferguson is a good one, because the good ones can show you something in that rook season. I don't think it is unreasonable for him to be focused in his rook season as a pure pass catcher, and Stafford can throw him open if necessary.
 

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You should have called McVay and told him to bench Kupp :laugh1:

I’m sure he’d appreciate the guidance.
Kupp became not a need with puka ascending they need more speed on the field and tutu is best as roll Man U notice how Mcvay said that tutu was at his best when he was replacing kupp when he was hurt … I expect 12 personnel but expect a learning curve with ferguson
 

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Kupp became not a need with puka ascending they need more speed on the field and tutu is best as roll Man U notice how Mcvay said that tutu was at his best when he was replacing kupp when he was hurt … I expect 12 personnel but expect a learning curve with ferguson

At his best when replacing Kupp- when Kupp was injured. Not, when Kupp was healthy.

I’m not buying the ‘McVay didn’t know what he was doing’ story. McVay is one of the best offensive minds in the game. He isn’t mistakenly going to play the wrong players, or have no idea what he has on the roster. If he chose to play Kupp over Atwell I’m sure he felt that was the best option he had.