4th and 1 from the 1

[jrry32]

I think Donald COULD knock Calais Campbell backwards with a head of steam.

I think Donald could knock him on his ass with a full head of steam.

 

[StevenG-BR]

I wasn't angry or confused by the decision in any way. It was an understandable move, but even at the time I thought it a bad choice.

The offense was dreadful. The odds of us getting another TD opportunity was zilch. Knowing that they'd unlikely be in that position again, they should have tried to punch it in.

A game winning field goal drive was possible, but a touchdown drive was nearly impossible against that defense. You get a TD opportunity in a game like that, you have to assume you're not gonna get another.

I get why they did it. You need that FG anyway. But I disagree with the call.

 

[blue4]

They needed both, and there were valid reasons for both. Most games I'd go for three. This game I didn't have much confidence we could get to the red zone again, so in the heat of moment I probably would have went for the TD. Not much to second guess here either way. Maybe Fisher was afraid we would run empty backfield again.

 

[LesBaker]

My confidence in THIS offense to convert on most short yardage situations is low. Lower than it should be...which is why i don't really like the identity of this offense.

I agreed with the Fish on the decision to get 3.

Part of me was thinking "go" and part was "just take the figgie and get the ball back". Even if they had gone for it and not converted I would have understood the decision because it was possible of course that the AZ defense would continue to clamp down and there might not be that good of an opportunity so you take it when you can get it.

IMO this was one of those pretty rare times when the coach is right regardless of which way he went, if there was a lot less time on the clock it would be different of course and to me that is what gave Fisher the latitude.

EDIT
After reading the posts I had not read before posting this I see a few people are feeling the same way. I can't fault Fisher for taking the 3 but I didn't like the 3rd down call at all.

 

[Pancake]

Oh I hated the 3rd down call. Rolling like that reduced the already reduced field down to nothing.

 

[61Woody]

Ok. We kick the field goal and got the ball back at the xx yard line. We get the TD and would have in all likely hood got the ball back in about the same place. Play calling for a field goal drive probably would have been different than when needing to drive the length of the field for a touchdown. Had we not gotten the TD we would of at least got a chance for a safety or turnover.

 

[-X-]

Part of me was thinking "go" and part was "just take the figgie and get the ball back". Even if they had gone for it and not converted I would have understood the decision because it was possible of course that the AZ defense would continue to clamp down and there might not be that good of an opportunity so you take it when you can get it.

IMO this was one of those pretty rare times when the coach is right regardless of which way he went, if there was a lot less time on the clock it would be different of course and to me that is what gave Fisher the latitude.

EDIT
After reading the posts I had not read before posting this I see a few people are feeling the same way. I can't fault Fisher for taking the 3 but I didn't like the 3rd down call at all.

Yep. He was right either way he went, but he would have been wrong if he failed to convert on 4th down. He would have been put on blast if he tried to run it in and failed, and he would have been put on blast if he tried to pass it and he failed. So you play the odds in that instance and be smart & safe. As for the 3rd down call, it's simply a case of doing something that worked in the past, but didn't this time. I'm almost certain that if he tried to run it in there (with any of our RBs) and failed, that people would be saying it was dumb because up to that point we hadn't run worth a shit anyway.

Remind me never to become an NFL Head Coach. I'd be melting down like Mora at pressers every single time.

 

[MrMotes]

But if you don't make the TD, the game is over.

The way our D was playing we could have got a pick 6 after the FG and won the game that way.

The game's not over, they're on their own one with a 3rd string QB. The way our defense was playing? A safety and it's a one score game with AZ kicking the ball back to us.

This is one of the reasons i think we should've gone for it...

 

[Wonderboy]

With all due respect to everyone that thinks the Rams should have gone for it on 4th and 1 with 6 minutes left (remember, you can say anything you want after saying that, according to Ricky Bobby it's in the Geneva Convention!), that would have been the dumbest move I've ever seen! The fact that you've pulled it off in Madden does not make it viable. Our offense hadn't done anything all night and it was a two score game. The Rams HAD to score TWO times! They would likely be able to get the ball back ( and they did) and have a chance to win it with a FG there. There would have been about a 99.8% chance of losing if they go for it there and don't get the score. And to remind you all again, the offense hadn't done anything all night! It was nearly a lose-lose situation to go for it. It's not like the Rams would have been in the lead with a TD there anyway. Sure a TD would have been great, but kicking a FG on 4th down was THE ONLY option. So for those of you that think it was a mistake, sorry, you're wrong. There may have been plenty of opportunities to change the game Thursday night, but that was not one of them.

 

[Boffo97]

Now try 3rd and goal from the one.

Come on people, that was a HORRIBLE call. Not bad, horrible.

If it worked, it would have been considered a great call.

And if they had run from the 1 and gotten stuffed, that would have been a horrible call too and Schotty would have been bashed for being too predictable.

Just like I don't think too many people would have been complimenting Fisher's balls had that fake punt not worked in Seattle.

 

[-X-]

If it worked, it would have been considered a great call.

And if they had run from the 1 and gotten stuffed, that would have been a horrible call too and Schotty would have been bashed for being too predictable.

Just like I don't think too many people would have been complimenting Fisher's balls had that fake punt not worked in Seattle.

 

[LACHAMP46]

@RhodyRams , you go for it...simple...Our offense hadn't been really moving the ball, what are the odds we would get that close again? It was 1 yard!!!!! Tight formation, PA, throw to a big target...If we fail, defense gets a chance to work some magic...took really all our momentum....

 

[RhodyRams]

@RhodyRams , you go for it...simple...Our offense hadn't been really moving the ball, what are the odds we would get that close again? It was 1 yard!!!!! Tight formation, PA, throw to a big target...If we fail, defense gets a chance to work some magic...took really all our momentum....

That was pretty much my thoughts also

 

[RamzFanz]

If it worked, it would have been considered a great call.

And if they had run from the 1 and gotten stuffed, that would have been a horrible call too and Schotty would have been bashed for being too predictable.

Just like I don't think too many people would have been complimenting Fisher's balls had that fake punt not worked in Seattle.

I don't know why people assume a bad call gets praised because it works. I don't think bad calls are great because they work.

 

[LesBaker]

I don't know why people assume a bad call gets praised because it works. I don't think bad calls are great because they work.

For instance Martz using the goal line shovel pass. Even when it got a TD I cringed, I even cringed when they showed the slo-mo replay and I knew it was a TD.........it's never a good play.

 

[Boffo97]

I don't know why people assume a bad call gets praised because it works. I don't think bad calls are great because they work.

Because people don't think they were bad calls when they work. If it worked, it was obviously a good call.

Especially when it comes to some minor quibble like passing from 1st and goal from the 1 rather than running. Running's safer, but more predictable and the defense is more likely to be looking for it. If a short pass gets the touchdown, I have never seen anyone say "Well, that worked, but we should have ran it."

 

[RhodyRams]

With all due respect to everyone that thinks the Rams should have gone for it on 4th and 1 with 6 minutes left (remember, you can say anything you want after saying that, according to Ricky Bobby it's in the Geneva Convention!), that would have been the dumbest move I've ever seen! The fact that you've pulled it off in Madden does not make it viable. Our offense hadn't done anything all night and it was a two score game. The Rams HAD to score TWO times! They would likely be able to get the ball back ( and they did) and have a chance to win it with a FG there. There would have been about a 99.8% chance of losing if they go for it there and don't get the score. And to remind you all again, the offense hadn't done anything all night! It was nearly a lose-lose situation to go for it. It's not like the Rams would have been in the lead with a TD there anyway. Sure a TD would have been great, but kicking a FG on 4th down was THE ONLY option. So for those of you that think it was a mistake, sorry, you're wrong. There may have been plenty of opportunities to change the game Thursday night, but that was not one of them.

you are correct in saying the offense didnt do anything all night, so what were the chances of getting that close to the end zone again before time ticked away?

Get the TD, hold em on D, and then you only have to get to at least the 35 for a game winning FG, instead of having to drive the whole field. As others have said, if you fail at getting the TD, the defense is in great position to score, and the D had been playing a hell of alot better than the O all night


oh.... and I dont play Madden

 

[RamzFanz]

Because people don't think they were bad calls when they work. If it worked, it was obviously a good call.

Especially when it comes to some minor quibble like passing from 1st and goal from the 1 rather than running. Running's safer, but more predictable and the defense is more likely to be looking for it. If a short pass gets the touchdown, I have never seen anyone say "Well, that worked, but we should have ran it."

No, a bad call can work and still be a bad call. The pass call that lost the SD game, IMO, was a bad call. They ran it again the next game for a TD the next game and I hated the call. They could hand it to Bam Bam following Harkey and running to the left 2 times and fail and I would like the call with a tie on the line. Situational awareness. Safe. High percentage of success.

They ran TA up the middle over and over and over. Sometimes it worked. I still hated the calls. Now they are using him in sweeps and reverses. Sometimes they fail. I still love the call.

 

[MrMotes]

you are correct in saying the offense didnt do anything all night, so what were the chances of getting that close to the end zone again before time ticked away?

This is the other really strong reason for going for it. That kind of field position was nearly impossible to come by...

 

[RamzFanz]

This is the other really strong reason for going for it. That kind of field position was nearly .impossible to come by...

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Exactly.

 

[-X-]

Doesn't matter. There's no wrong call to make there (unless it doesn't work).