49ers name change

[Soul Surfer]

You learn something about anonymity?

Hey I haven't forgotten about that Roman Gabriel autograph.

I've been crazy busy moving.
I'll send it as soon as possible.

 

[Soul Surfer]

The USArmy cleared the Indians out so the miners could mine. The miners didn’t commit genocide, the United States government did.

That was kind of my point.

 

[JonRam99]

That was kind of my point.

Are we really arguing about who was MORE responsible for these atrocities? Talk about splitting hairs.
I never knew any of this about the CA tribes. Thank you for sharing this. I got a whole new reason to hate the 49ers.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Are we really arguing about who was MORE responsible for these atrocities? Talk about splitting hairs.
I never knew any of this about the CA tribes. Thank you for sharing this. I got a whole new reason to hate the 49ers.

My bad.
That's what I get for being a historian and not speaking in generalities.

I'm not arguing one bit because I've already studied the history behind gold mining and the US government's homicide, genocide and displacement of Native Americans which they referred to and justified as, "Manifest Destiny".

It's actually still going on in a different form.

 

[gogoat1]

They were assisted by the new California government that wanted to take care of its Indian problem so the gold could be mined and California could become a State. The government facilitated that and later carried out in spades by the US Government after the civil war.

Search the North Coast Journal on "Indian Island Massacre" Feb 1860. There were not government troops crossing back to Eureka by boat at daybreak after the deed. There is a first hand account of a young Wiyot girl who seen the whole thing hiding in a garbage pile, chilling. Some survivors were taken to Fort Humboldt they they were involved too.
More happened throughout Humboldt that nite. Lots of ranchers got in on it too. This is the stuff that happened near town. Lot of unwritten history happened in the hills. I know of some of it.

This is too deep for a Rams forum. I just hate the Niners for a LOT of reasons.
Their new logo should involve a steaming pile of human waste. I have not been back to Fishermans Warf since they stopped prosocuting criminals who break your car windows and clean you out.

 

[thirteen28]

Their new logo should involve a steaming pile of human waste.

Actually, given the prevalence of people taking a dump in public in that city, enough that some call it "Scat Francisco", I have to say that might be the best idea in this thread.

 

[TK42-RAM]

94th - er's ??

... no wait that wouldn't work that is the atomic number of Plutonium ...

 

[rams1fan]

If we are sticking with the numeric theme then I think the SF Zeros has a good ring.

 

[Memento]

Are we really arguing about who was MORE responsible for these atrocities? Talk about splitting hairs.
I never knew any of this about the CA tribes. Thank you for sharing this. I got a whole new reason to hate the 49ers.

It's like one of my reasons for hating the Kansas Jayhawks. They're named after Unionists in the Civil War that called themselves "Jayhawkers." They were glorified raiders, pillagers, rapists, and murderers who went into Missouri and massacred men, women, and children, all in the name of "abolitionism". They fueled the rise of Quantrill's Raiders and Bloody Bill Anderson's raids into Kansas, where they massacred men, women, and children.

Both sides should be looked at unfavorably in history, and deservedly so. However, the University of Missouri named themselves the Tigers, who were a militia who defended Columbia, Missouri, who repelled all attacks by both Quantrill's Raiders and the Jayhawkers.

So, yeah, KU can say we were a slave state - and that would be true. But at least we didn't name our university sports team after a bunch of murderers and rapists.

Sorry @Loyal .

 

[Kevin]

Search the North Coast Journal on "Indian Island Massacre" Feb 1860. There were not government troops crossing back to Eureka by boat at daybreak after the deed. There is a first hand account of a young Wiyot girl who seen the whole thing hiding in a garbage pile, chilling. Some survivors were taken to Fort Humboldt they they were involved too.
More happened throughout Humboldt that nite. Lots of ranchers got in on it too. This is the stuff that happened near town. Lot of unwritten history happened in the hills. I know of some of it.

This is too deep for a Rams forum. I just hate the Niners for a LOT of reasons.
Their new logo should involve a steaming pile of human waste. I have not been back to Fishermans Warf since they stopped prosocuting criminals who break your car windows and clean you out.

California’s Little‑Known Genocide | HISTORY

Up to 16,000 Native Americans were murdered in cold blood after California became a state.

www.history.com

 

[TexasRam]

Can anyone take a public crap in San Francisco, or are there restrictions and guidelines for this sort of thing?

You are not allowed to poop shame. That type of bigoted poop shaming is considered systemic patriarcal insensitive unwokeness.
I used to work in S.F. and see this stuff daily on my walk to work off the BART train. Thank God I moved to Texas in '03 and escaped that madness. It's like a 3rd world country with a stronger poop smell to bring home the political corruption lesson.