2nd Rd / Pick #46 - Terrance Ferguson, TE, Oregon

[Mojo Ram]

I hope this guy makes the HoF for the Rams.
But just in case he flops, we got tons of memes at the ready

Bookmarked. I don’t see Fergs moving the needle for this offense.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Bookmarked. I don’t see Fergs moving the needle for this offense.

I mean, this could be true. And TE is notorious for it's long development path so even if he is good we may not see it for 2 years.

Will be interesting to see from what happens in training camp to start.

 

[OldSchool]

Saw so.eone say before the draft that 60% of first round picks don't make meaningful contributions as a rookie and it goes down every round. Sad though so many people counting out a very good player already.

 

[RamFan503]

I get the feeling we'll see him on the field a fair amount. He's got a lot of work to do though. Not only is he going to need to get the playbook down but also forge a relationship with Staff. He can do that by working extra hard and catching everything thrown his way. I can't wait to start hearing training camp reports. @bubbaramfan @VeteranRamFan You guys gonna be our ROD reporters again this year?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I mean, this could be true. And TE is notorious for it's long development path so even if he is good we may not see it for 2 years.

Will be interesting to see from what happens in training camp to start.

Lately, we have seen some tight ends producing in their first year. Plus he’s familiar with some of the Rams offense, since Oregon uses some of it.

And, the way McVay has been craving a pass catching Tight end for this offense, he is likely to do what it takes to give Ferguson his chances.

Bookmarked. I don’t see Fergs moving the needle for this offense.

I hope you are wrong. Against the Saints, Niners (2nd game) and Jets the offense was anemic vs man coverage. Adding Adams may help that but I think they need more. Hopefully Ferguson makes a difference, like Higbee did against the Vikings in the playoffs, until he was injured.

Watching Higbee against in the Vikings playoff game the other day, has me excited to see what Ferguson can do.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Lately, we have seen some tight ends producing in their first year. Plus he’s familiar with some of the Rams offense, since Oregon uses some of it.

And, the way McVay has been craving a pass catching Tight end for this offense, he is likely to do what it takes to give Ferguson his chances.



I hope you are wrong. Against the Saints, Niners (2nd game) and Jets the offense was anemic vs man coverage. Adding Adams may help that but I think they need more. Hopefully Ferguson makes a difference, like Higbee did against the Vikings in the playoffs, until he was injured.

Watching Higbee against in the Vikings playoff game the other day, has me excited to see what Ferguson can do.

Trey McBride gained 270ish total yards his first season, 825 his second and 1200ish his third. He's considered one of the top young TE's in this class.

I think the floor for Ferg is probably in the 250 total yards range (people will lose their heads over this) but if we can get 500 yards out of him this year I'd be pretty damn happy.

One has to imagine the work he will be doing as a blocker too, he's not just a receiver so don't get all hung up on the total yardage.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Not sure 503. Started an early vacation visiting Mesa Verde, Bears Ears and Canyon o the Ancients for spring break. At my Cuz in Elko Nv getting ready to go to Wind River Range in Wyo. for fly fishing and then head to Jackson Hole for white water rafting second week of june. Then on to Black Hills SD for Family meet up for 4th July.

I'm going to be exhausted by the time I get home. Hopefully in time to get a few days of TC in. Not sure when TC tix will be available so going to ask VRF to get mine for me and I can reimburse. I'll be off the grid in Black Hills.

I;m pushingg 72 so got to get some of my bucket list stuff done.

 

[Merlin]

The fact that Ferguson was a top target for McVay tells me that at the very least he impressed in whiteboard discussion and there was a sense this is a kid with a great work ethic. So if they hit on that portion of the evaluation he shouldn't have too much trouble learning the offense only as the second TE.

From there he'll need to beat out Allen, which might be the biggest hurdle for him. Allen struggled last year when the role was there to be had, and when the team relied on that TE group more without Higs. But as a second TE and with another year under his belt Allen should have the offense down which means the basic bar for Ferguson getting snaps will be reasonably high.

After a couple years of watching him I'd say Allen has the hands for that role and he's a nice big possession target, but he's sort of stiff in the pattern and doesn't seem to have that instinctive knack vs zone where he is where the QB needs him on a high percentage. No idea if he's going to show big improvement in those areas. But if not then there is certainly room for a kid with Fergy's tools to get worked in.

And then you have the TE vs WR element as it pertains to 11 vs 12. It is basically TE2 vs WR3. There are going to be snaps where McVay wants the speed on the field and opts for WR. But I'd expect we see some Fergy as the choice in that equation in short yard, goal line, and certain other downs/distances.

Gronk's first year he put up a little over 500 yards, then exploded year two. Kelce didn't do much his rook outing, then put up in the 800 range year two. One thing Fergy has going for him is if he and Stafford get some timing down watch the fuck out. Because Stafford will feed him all he can handle when he's on the field if he trusts him.

 

[JonRam99]

Have we EVER done a TE screen? like, how Oregon did it in Ferg's highlight reels? He was a master at it.
If we can pull that off here, it would do a lot of damage.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Have we EVER done a TE screen?

Do people not watch the actual games?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Trey McBride gained 270ish total yards his first season, 825 his second and 1200ish his third. He's considered one of the top young TE's in this class.

I think the floor for Ferg is probably in the 250 total yards range (people will lose their heads over this) but if we can get 500 yards out of him this year I'd be pretty damn happy.

One has to imagine the work he will be doing as a blocker too, he's not just a receiver so don't get all hung up on the total yardage.

They will still have Higbee, hopefully he stays healthy, and Allen/Parkinson. If McVay wants to emphasize the position, which I think he does, then I think collectively they easily get over 500 yards out of the bottom 3.

Rookie TEs
Bowers had 1194 yards
Pitts had 1024
Laporta had 889
Engram had 772
Kincaid had 673

I think Ferguson can do as well or better than Kincaid if he gets the targets. McBride is a bad example imo. Overall in 2022 (390) and 2023 (268 due to injury) Kyler Murray’s passing attempts were way down both years. Plus they were going through coaching changes.

But, if Higbee is healthy Ferguson isn’t likely to be the primary TE target. If the Rams run a lot of 12 personnel it could be fair to think he may approach what DeMarcus Robinson did in the last few seasons, as the #3 receiver, which in his best season with LA he had 505 yards and 7 TDs.

And yea, of course how quickly he learns the blocking schemes does come into play, but if he’s not the main in-line TE that could simplify things for him.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Can we all agree that at the very least, Fergs needs to beat out Davis by week one? My expectations are higher but apparently are too high.

 

[gogoat1]

Its like some fans would rather "be right" on something even though its bad for our team.
McSnead is not stupid, in fact they are smarter on football stuff than all of us.
Give the kid a chance. McVay sees something and if he wants something to happen he will do everything in his power to make it happen.

 

[WestCoastRam]

They will still have Higbee, hopefully he stays healthy, and Allen/Parkinson. If McVay wants to emphasize the position, which I think he does, then I think collectively they easily get over 500 yards out of the bottom 3.

Rookie TEs
Bowers had 1194 yards
Pitts had 1024
Laporta had 889
Engram had 772
Kincaid had 673

I think Ferguson can do as well or better than Kincaid if he gets the targets. McBride is a bad example imo. Overall in 2022 (390) and 2023 (268 due to injury) Kyler Murray’s passing attempts were way down both years. Plus they were going through coaching changes.

But, if Higbee is healthy Ferguson isn’t likely to be the primary TE target. If the Rams run a lot of 12 personnel it could be fair to think he may approach what DeMarcus Robinson did in the last few seasons, as the #3 receiver, which in his best season with LA he had 505 yards and 7 TDs.

And yea, of course how quickly he learns the blocking schemes does come into play, but if he’s not the main in-line TE that could simplify things for him.

I love the optimism but I think anything over 500 is a lot for our 2nd TE.

Hope I'm wrong! Those numbers would likely mean good things.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Can we all agree that at the very least, Fergs needs to beat out Davis by week one? My expectations are higher but apparently are too high.

IMO, unless Parkinson gets moved, Davis might need to beat out those two UDFAs.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Can we all agree that at the very least, Fergs needs to beat out Davis by week one? My expectations are higher but apparently are too high.

If he hasn't taken the TE 2 role by week one, that's not gonna be a good sign even with the long runway for TEs.

 

[RamFan503]

Not sure 503. Started an early vacation visiting Mesa Verde, Bears Ears and Canyon o the Ancients for spring break. At my Cuz in Elko Nv getting ready to go to Wind River Range in Wyo. for fly fishing and then head to Jackson Hole for white water rafting second week of june. Then on to Black Hills SD for Family meet up for 4th July.

I'm going to be exhausted by the time I get home. Hopefully in time to get a few days of TC in. Not sure when TC tix will be available so going to ask VRF to get mine for me and I can reimburse. I'll be off the grid in Black Hills.

I;m pushingg 72 so got to get some of my bucket list stuff done.

Sounds exhausting! But also sounds like a GREAT damned trip.

But buck up sugar cakes and get us those reports!

Cheers man.

 

[Memento]

IMO, unless Parkinson gets moved, Davis might need to beat out those two UDFAs.

I won't say there's no way because stranger things have happened, but I think it's extremely unlikely. Allen is younger than Torres (Torres is already twenty-six) and possibly around Redman's age (not sure of Redman's age, but Allen turned twenty-four in February, and I think Redman was a graduate senior at Louisville, if I'm right? Again, not totally sure.), and neither of them have any of the receiving talent Allen has. Allen's issue is his availability, but he played well as a rookie.

I feel it's much more likely that we go with three tight ends (Higbee, Parkinson, Ferguson) if we don't move Parkinson (which I think we should) than Allen getting beat out by either Redman or Torres.

 

[VeteranRamFan]

... I can't wait to start hearing training camp reports. @bubbaramfan @VeteranRamFan You guys gonna be our ROD reporters again this year?

I just got off the phone with @bubbaramfan. We're making our plans and if it's the setup like last years we should be able to make a few practices.

I will say I don't like the seating arrangements at Loyola as we are looking into the sun. Doesn't make for good pictures. But hey, at least we can take our beers into the stands and not be restricted to a certain area like at UCI.

More to follow as the time draws near.

Take care,

Dale

 

[PhillyRam]

I won't say there's no way because stranger things have happened, but I think it's extremely unlikely. Allen is younger than Torres (Torres is already twenty-six) and possibly around Redman's age (not sure of Redman's age, but Allen turned twenty-four in February, and I think Redman was a graduate senior at Louisville, if I'm right? Again, not totally sure.), and neither of them have any of the receiving talent Allen has. Allen's issue is his availability, but he played well as a rookie.

I feel it's much more likely that we go with three tight ends (Higbee, Parkinson, Ferguson) if we don't move Parkinson (which I think we should) than Allen getting beat out by either Redman or Torres.

Yeah, assuming no camp injuries at TE, if another team loses a TE, I could see them moving Parkinson to a desperate team.