24 points per game - Have we done enough?

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WestCoastRam

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A team with Kupp, Stafford, and McVay will score points.

Little doubt… a healthy Stafford and Kupp easily boosts that 18.1ppg average into the 20’s.

Then… If the offensive line can be just average / good…

It feels to me it comes down to Akers, Jefferson, Atwell, or one of these new tight ends… Somebody adding 500yds to their career best.

Akers; that would be 1,300yds rushing
Jefferson; that would be 1,300yds receiving
Atwell; that would be 800yds receiving

IF someone(s) from that group emerges like that then I think we get to 24ppg and will be in the mix for a playoff spot.

Yes, I think this is a great way to look at it and I'll just add my spin: Offensive line moves from blow average to top 15 in league. Our runners gaining around 1700+ for the season and two pass catchers to emerge outside of Kupp. (All we need is for Jefferson to have a slightly better year than 2021 and Atwell, Puka, Skow, Akers, Higbee to step it up as a pass catcher).
 
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It is pretty simple. You have to score points in this league in order to win. As much as you need defense, it won't matter if you can't score enough points.

One thing is simple for us. Its the offensive line that will determine if we score enough points to win. They play well, Stafford plays well. Stafford plays well, the Rams win more games. The line plays poorly, Stafford struggles and probably doesn't make it through the season.
 

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Well, my concern is there is no one on the Rams offense to "watch out" for except Kupp. His role in this offense and the impact he has on it can't be overstated.

Given his injury history, it's fair to wonder if we're going to have him for the whole year.

Generally speaking, a team needs three threats at pass catcher to be an elite offense. Now we prob don't need to be elite to average 24 pts per game but we definitely need two more guys to be legit threats as pass catchers. Guys that can at least win regularly against man coverage. Jefferson could possibly be one of those guys but we need a third. And it doesn't have to come from the WR group. A RB or TE could easily provide it for us but not sure Aker is a good enough pass catcher nor that Higbee can provide more than what he has in the past. As I said in a previous post, the third is most likely going to come from Puka, Skow or Atwell if it happens.
 

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Generally speaking, a team needs three threats at pass catcher to be an elite offense. Now we prob don't need to be elite to average 24 pts per game but we definitely need two more guys to be legit threats as pass catchers. Guys that can at least win regularly against man coverage. Jefferson could possibly be one of those guys but we need a third. And it doesn't have to come from the WR group. A RB or TE could easily provide it for us but not sure Aker is a good enough pass catcher nor that Higbee can provide more than what he has in the past. As I said in a previous post, the third is most likely going to come from Puka, Skow or Atwell if it happens.
Yeah I agree. I think there's a good chance Kupp & Jefferson can be a one-two punch in the pass game. Jefferson works hard, he's built his production, and should be ready for a bigger role.

I wonder if a WR by committee can get the job done for us as that third wideout role. Maybe so, assuming the top two are good to go.

But this would be real good timing for Higs to put up a big season in the pass game. He does have a new TE coach. There's a chance Caley comes in here and jives with him and gets the most out of him. He does have an advantage, too, in that defenses will overlook him on the edge if he's selling a block in that first instant. So I've always felt like he could be one of those guys who gets overlooked, who fans are like "WTF how is he that open" because he can block and if he sells it then releases there's a good chance he's gonna be in space.

Not gonna get all high on Higs here but just acknowledging that he's improved every year and he works hard and he blocks and he's mediocre but maybe this could be a season where things align for him. Where he's ready plus has a coach come in who preps him better and gets the most from him. And we could use that. Sure would be nice.
 

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Generally speaking, a team needs three threats at pass catcher to be an elite offense. Now we prob don't need to be elite to average 24 pts per game but we definitely need two more guys to be legit threats as pass catchers. Guys that can at least win regularly against man coverage. Jefferson could possibly be one of those guys but we need a third. And it doesn't have to come from the WR group. A RB or TE could easily provide it for us but not sure Aker is a good enough pass catcher nor that Higbee can provide more than what he has in the past. As I said in a previous post, the third is most likely going to come from Puka, Skow or Atwell if it happens.

Yeah I agree. I think there's a good chance Kupp & Jefferson can be a one-two punch in the pass game. Jefferson works hard, he's built his production, and should be ready for a bigger role.

I wonder if a WR by committee can get the job done for us as that third wideout role. Maybe so, assuming the top two are good to go.

But this would be real good timing for Higs to put up a big season in the pass game. He does have a new TE coach. There's a chance Caley comes in here and jives with him and gets the most out of him. He does have an advantage, too, in that defenses will overlook him on the edge if he's selling a block in that first instant. So I've always felt like he could be one of those guys who gets overlooked, who fans are like "WTF how is he that open" because he can block and if he sells it then releases there's a good chance he's gonna be in space.

Not gonna get all high on Higs here but just acknowledging that he's improved every year and he works hard and he blocks and he's mediocre but maybe this could be a season where things align for him. Where he's ready plus has a coach come in who preps him better and gets the most from him. And we could use that. Sure would be nice.
1. Kupp
2. Higbee
3. Jefferson
4. Atwell, Akers, K.Williams, Skow, Puka
 

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No we haven't done enough. The offense will not overcome our very young and raw defense. Hope I'm wrong but that's what I sadly think.
 

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No we haven't done enough. The offense will not overcome our very young and raw defense. Hope I'm wrong but that's what I sadly think.
I hope you're wrong too. Maybe there's a decent chance you are. We went 10-6 with the #1 defense in the NFL, went to a Superbowl with the #19 defense and won a SB with the #17 defense. Those SB teams both had a top 10 offense, while the season with the #1 defense did not. Yeah, I know, they were the #11 offense but the #22 scoring offense. The popular saying is defense wins championships but I think the evolution of the NFL has made that antiquated just like " you gotta stop the run first". Stopping the pass is paramount. I read a comment about our young edge players that went something like this......"if I were Seattle's OC, I'd run wide all game in week 1, exposing those young OLBs not adept at setting the edge". I wouldn't worry about that as much as getting to the QB.
 
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Wonder if Caley will snag Benny for his TE room. Would not surprise me.
 

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It will be hard to tell what they look like in preseason if McVay sticks to not playing starters.
I wonder how much his approach changes, if any, with so many young players to work with?
 

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I wonder how much his approach changes, if any, with so many young players to work with?
They changed the cutdown dates and I wonder if that plays into it too? Two guys fairly equal might both play because should one get dinged, he has the other one.
 

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I hope you're wrong too. Maybe there's a decent chance you are. We went 10-6 with the #1 defense in the NFL, went to a Superbowl with the #19 defense and won a SB with the #17 defense. Those SB teams both had a top 10 offense, while the season with the #1 defense did not. Yeah, I know, they were the #11 offense but the #22 scoring offense. The popular saying is defense wins championships but I think the evolution of the NFL has made that antiquated just like " you gotta stop the run first". Stopping the pass is paramount. I read a comment about our young edge players that went something like this......"if I were Seattle's OC, I'd run wide all game in week 1, exposing those young OLBs not adept at setting the edge". I wouldn't worry about that as much as getting to the QB.
The room for error that the offense will have is my biggest concern as I don't think they'll have much. Our defense is ridiculously young and unproven so there are some growing pains to be expected on that side. Saying stopping the pass is paramount and stopping the run isn't doesn't make sense to me if teams like Seattle and SF run it down our throats with success. Running successfully against any defense is bound to gas the defense and keep them highly susceptible to play action which many are hoping we do with our offense. I'm not in disagreement that the best defense wins championships, but I don't think we'll even sniff top 20. Hard to win games when the defense has more holes than swiss cheese. I'll continue to hope I'm wrong here and cheer my ass off, but won't be surprised if it's a long year.
 

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It's a cliche to say at this point but it's true, if we stay relatively healthy yes we can hit that mark.
 

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I wonder how much his approach changes, if any, with so many young players to work with?
I said the following players won't play

Stafford
Kupp
Donald
Jones
Higbee
Havenstein
Noteboom (mostly due to injury)
Fuller
Jefferson

Others that might not play

Allen
Shelton
Hoecht

Others that might not play that should play

Skowrenek
Tutu

Any others that I am missing?
 

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I said the following players won't play

Stafford
Kupp
Donald
Jones
Higbee
Havenstein
Noteboom (mostly due to injury)
Fuller
Jefferson

Others that might not play

Allen
Shelton
Hoecht

Others that might not play that should play

Skowrenek
Tutu

Any others that I am missing?
I don't think anyone on that list will play. I think Mcvay knows what he has in those players and he has a ton of rookies to evaluate (need to play).
 

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I wonder how much his approach changes, if any, with so many young players to work with?
I’m hoping last year showed him that approach is not always the best way to proceed. The first game they looked over matched and not ready to compete.

I believe units like the Oline need real playing time and competition to get ready for the season.

Scrimmages are awesome but they don’t provide real consequences like game activity.

I know it’s a marathon but, games in September count just as much as games in December. They can’t afford a crappy start against their early schedule this season.