2021 Rule Change Proposals

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MadGoat

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I don't like this rule at all, somehow I see the Rams getting hosed by this rule.
Amen. Isn't this down and distance the Russell Wilson special?? Donald gets a hand on him, he spins out of another tackle, and then he underthrows a receiver who comes back to make a catch just past the first down marker.
 

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Amen. Isn't this down and distance the Russell Wilson special?? Donald gets a hand on him, he spins out of another tackle, and then he underthrows a receiver who comes back to make a catch just past the first down marker.

If they do bring this shit rule in there must be a stipulation that if the pass is completed the ball can not be progressed from that point. So the defense doesn't have to be worried about giving up a td. That will allow them to crowd that marker area.

Man it's a stupid rule change proposal.

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They should change the rules so that holding calls are enforced against the OLs responsible for blocking Aaron Donald. Sure seemed like they were exempt this past year.
 

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If they do bring this shit rule in there must be a stipulation that if the pass is completed the ball can not be progressed from that point. So the defense doesn't have to be worried about giving up a td. That will allow them to crowd that marker area.

Man it's a stupid rule change proposal.

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Seems like a great rule change to me. But I have a feeling it'll result in a lot of annoyance when they call stupid penalties (illegal contact, defensive holding, DPI, etc.).
 

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Seems like a great rule change to me. But I have a feeling it'll result in a lot of annoyance when they call stupid penalties (illegal contact, defensive holding, DPI, etc.).
I guess I'm wrong for assuming penalties would be assessed like on kickoffs. If you don't make it but get a defensive penalty, it's turned over to the defense and the spot of the ball is adjusted by the penalty yards.
 

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I guess I'm wrong for assuming penalties would be assessed like on kickoffs. If you don't make it but get a defensive penalty, it's turned over to the defense and the spot of the ball is adjusted by the penalty yards.

Then the defense would just hold on every play on purpose.
 

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Make it 4th & 20, but even then a PI or def hold can hand a team a first down... And I bet teams could scheme things up to try to draw those type penalties.

Bellycheat would automatically get a first down and possession, no matter which side of the ball he was on.
 

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Seems like a great rule change to me. But I have a feeling it'll result in a lot of annoyance when they call stupid penalties (illegal contact, defensive holding, DPI, etc.).

My concern is that it gives the refs an even easier way to manipulate games.

Let's take a hypothetical game of Jacksonville vs Houston.

League loves Trevor Lawrence, but he doesn't really have the team around him, so they've struggled. Houston is a dumpster fire, but they put it together for this game and are up 13 with 3 minutes to go.

Lawrence finds a receiver for a TD and they go for the kick and make it an 6 point game.

The announcers can't shut up about the "new format" as if 4th and 15 is too difficult to explain. Jags call a play and Lawrence sees his slot receiver open for a deep in. Throws a bullet and the ball is deflected. Looks like a bang-bang play to seal the game for the Texans.

BUT WAIT!!! The NBA...err... NFL official... the Back Judge in this case... throws a flag. It's a DPI. He's very deep. One of the announcers questions why he was that deep on such a play. The Texans sideline is going berzerk. The D is distracted enough that Lawrence throws a TD pass two plays later and the PAT wins the game.

And that leaves us with the "question". Was it a legit call? If it wasn't, was it a mistake or the league developing it's next star?

All that to say that I hate it because under the guise of safety, we have yet another chance for the NFL to appear to be more scripted than it does.

If it's false, it does the game a tremendous disservice. If it's true, then the "narrative writing" will only become more blatant. We're already seeing more and more YouTube breakdowns showing pretty conclusively that holding calls at critical times tremendously affect games.

I'd love an alternative to the onside kick. The problem with all these gimmick alternatives is that they're all easily exploitable. If they restrict the benefit of any DPI to 15 yards on that "onside alternative" teams will instruct players to hold rather than give up a big play. If they don't, then we're asking for more controversial DPI calls and non-calls.

I dunno the alternative, but I worry that the proposals are worse than the status quo...by a lot.
 

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I guess I'm wrong for assuming penalties would be assessed like on kickoffs. If you don't make it but get a defensive penalty, it's turned over to the defense and the spot of the ball is adjusted by the penalty yards.

Nah. If you do that, defenses will just cheat. There's no downside to it for them.
 

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i would like a rule that says for every new rule they put in they must remove 2 old ones
 

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I say fine, but if you do not make it the other team gets 6 points and the extra point try. This would be on top of say a pick 6 or strip sack return for TD. So it could be a 14 point (16 going for 2 twice) gamble.
And then extend the game by 5 minutes and each team gets to try a 50 yard hail mary followed by a 65 yard field goal attempt. Wait... Hear me out. If one of the teams makes the 65 yard field goal, they automatically win - this would make kickers real people. If both teams make the field goal, each team's Left Tackle races in a 50 yard sprint. If neither team makes that kick, the game ends in a tie and they have to play again instead of getting a bye week. BUT, the team that was trailing with 5 minutes left has to start 7 points down and the other team gets to accept the kick off starting each half. The other team however, gets to kick off from the 50 and if it goes through the uprights, they get the three and a re-kick.

#makingthenflfanfriendlyforthosewhodontunderstandfootball
 

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And then extend the game by 5 minutes and each team gets to try a 50 yard hail mary followed by a 65 yard field goal attempt. Wait... Hear me out. If one of the teams makes the 65 yard field goal, they automatically win - this would make kickers real people. If both teams make the field goal, each team's Left Tackle races in a 50 yard sprint. If neither team makes that kick, the game ends in a tie and they have to play again instead of getting a bye week. BUT, the team that was trailing with 5 minutes left has to start 7 points down and the other team gets to accept the kick off starting each half. The other team however, gets to kick off from the 50 and if it goes through the uprights, they get the three and a re-kick.

#makingthenflfanfriendlyforthosewhodontunderstandfootball
I guess I should used the blue font.

#thoughtitwasobviousithinkitwasastupidrule

#betsomewillonlyseea3letterwordabove
 

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I guess I should used the blue font.

#thoughtitwasobviousithinkitwasastupidrule

#betsomewillonlyseea3letterwordabove
Seems like they should print most of these rule change proposals in blue. But yeah... I got it. I just had to put what I felt in ridiculous proportions. Almost all of them are pretty silly IMO.
 

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Nah. If you do that, defenses will just cheat. There's no downside to it for them.
It's in place of a kickoff right? So if they get a ten yard penalty, they start at the 15. It's probably worth it, but there is a downside. Hell, were changing rules already right? Change it so that any defensive penalty starts you at the 5. That's enough disincentive for most head coaches I think.
 

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It's in place of a kickoff right? So if they get a ten yard penalty, they start at the 15. It's probably worth it, but there is a downside. Hell, were changing rules already right? Change it so that any defensive penalty starts you at the 5. That's enough disincentive for most head coaches I think.

No.
 

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4th and make all defensive penalties reviewable
 

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No.
I see what you're saying no to and kind of understand why, but I thought we were talking about hypotheticals in an effort to make this more reasonable and less prone to unfair manipulation. Let me be more clear.

While the NFL may not be suggesting these rule changes incorporate such an idea at this time, I think an improvement would be to have any defensive penalties applied after the play and have the ball placed at a determined spot (now I realize where I messed up earlier; I'm always missing something and this is why I can't code to save my life) in the event that the offense fails. Or something else entirely, of the defense commits no foul they take over at the spot of the dead ball, but if they do commit a foul they take over at their own 5 yard line.

While we're on the subject of improvements, I think 4th and 15 is too short.
 

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How about "no more changes" for a year or two.