2020 Trade Bait ?

[Riverumbbq]

For those of you wanting to trade Everett heres the thing. Hes going to be cheap, he hasn't done much since being here and hes been injured quite a lot. Teams will show interest because he has "potential" but that won't break the bank. If the rams offer him a contract he might sign for a little less than going to a bad teams that might overpay a little.

Me personally I would make signing him a priority because he does have talent and hes still a little raw when it comes to blocking so he will probably improve much like higs did.

Unless Everett has a monster 2020, I have to take an opposing viewpoint. First, Everett's current contract takes him thru the end of 2020 just like Ramsey, Kupp & JJ3, ... these 3 guys get extended before I think much about Everett.
Whether we could get a team like New England to cough up a late 2020 3'rd rounder for Everett is debatable, otherwise we are probably looking for a 2021 compensation pick if he walks as a free agent, and that comp pick could range quite a bit as things are today.
Seeing Everett become a featured player in 2020 may be less likely with this years breakout season for Higbee, and with our top WR corp and an improved OL, 12 personnel will continue to take a backseat to 11.
Either way, I don't trade Everett for less than a 3'rd.
jmo.

 

[Jacobarch]

Unless Everett has a monster 2020, I have to take an opposing viewpoint. First, Everett's current contract takes him thru the end of 2020 just like Ramsey, Kupp & JJ3, ... these 3 guys get extended before I think much about Everett.
Whether we could get a team like New England to cough up a 2020 3'rd rounder for Everett is debatable, otherwise we are probably looking for a 2021 compensation pick if he walks as a free agent, and that comp pick could range quite a bit as things are today.
Seeing Everett become a featured player in 2020 may be less likely with this years breakout season for Higbee, and with our top WR corp and an improved OL, 12 personnel will continue to take a backseat to 11.
Either way, I don't trade Everett for less than a 3'rd.
jmo.

See I think higs breakout year would benefit Everett. Teams will roll coverage towards higs next season so Everett can really benefit from that if he cant stay healthy. My point is lock him up now to a team friendly contract if he explodes next year then it's a win win. Team saves long term money on a good player.
If he continues to be mediocre structure the deal so theres little to no dead money and you still are ahead of the 8 ball.

With teams already doubling cooper and soon higs that's going to open up things for others. Theres only so many players you can double

 

[Riverumbbq]

See I think higs breakout year would benefit Everett. Teams will roll coverage towards higs next season so Everett can really benefit from that if he cant stay healthy. My point is lock him up now to a team friendly contract if he explodes next year then it's a win win. Team saves long term money on a good player.
If he continues to be mediocre structure the deal so theres little to no dead money and you still are ahead of the 8 ball.

With teams already doubling cooper and soon higs that's going to open up things for others. Theres only so many players you can double

We are already tight with the 2020 CAP, extending Everett now worsens an already bad situation. Everett isn't likely to give us an early team friendly contract any more than any other player, not with the way this league covets quality TE's. We can't pay Everett a competitive salary with a reasonably large signing bonus & guarantee AND expect little to no dead money within a years time span. If Higbee is indeed the man, we can draft a TE later to develop for a secondary role.
jmo.

 

[Riverumbbq]

If the Patriots identify TE as a must for upgrade, as I believe they have, I can easily see Everett going to them with their late 3'rd, which isn't far from a 4'th rounder for them anyway, especially if they make it close to or back to the Super Bowl.
I'm still waiting on Goodall's determination of a fine for N.E. from the latest spying episode and how high a draft pick it might cost them, I sure hope he doesn't believe we've all forgotten about that.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Why is everyone trying to trade away Everett? Him and higbee together next season are gonna be huge for the rams.

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[Riverumbbq]

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Why is everyone trying to trade away Everett? Him and higbee together next season are gonna be huge for the rams.

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Maybe, but that requires a huge leap of faith in Everett. And there is still the likelihood of him bolting in 2021 as a free agent.

 

[Riverumbbq]

What risk, even if it's a 7'th it's better than nothing when he walks as a free agent ? Anyway, as long as Fowler hasn't signed the Tag, it can be cancelled by the team offering it, but we'd still have time to determine his market value. I don't see many 2'nd round Edge draft prospects who will have Fowlers immediate impact.
jmo.

 

[Riverumbbq]

For the most part I would agree, but there are always those play-off caliber teams who are looking for that final piece to the puzzle.

 

[oldnotdead]

NRC is the best bet. They have Williams who is better than either NRC and Hill to play slot and rotate outside if necessary. Deayon still needs to prove himself but they obviously see something in him. That isn't to say they won't draft a CB and IMO I think they will to give them depth. Long started the last game and played well. I see him starting next year opposite Ramsey.

With JJ and Rap along with Gervase and Scott they are set at safety. I think Christian will leave wanting to go where he can start. He is potentially trade bait but the trading team will need to workout a deal with Christian first and it must be done before the end of March. He's proved he's a starting caliber safety.

There is zero reason to trade Fowler. People think that good edge rushers can be had easily in the draft. They have a proven edge threat in Fowler and knew they had to extend him when they traded for him. His cap impact of an extension won't be a deal breaker. Dante was had more impact this year than Clowney and is IMO better.

The real cap headache is Havenstein. He's getting paid too much to be simply a swing player especially when they have better suited players already on the roster to start and play swing.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I guess I needed blue font for the 7'th ?

While the Rams may have a clue to Fowler's market value prior to his needing to be tagged, I still don't much see the risk. A 3'rd in 2020 beats a compensation 3'rd in 2021, and we only get that if we avoid hiring new free agents. There are worse things than keeping Fowler around if it came to that, we could always take to restructuring Goff to free up additional CAP as some have suggested, although i'm against it for now if it can be avoided.
If the Rams can't get a 2'nd or 3'rd for Fowler, then he's definitely been over-rated on this site. Not sure how you have him devalued as he was traded to us two years ago for a 3'rd & 5'th, unless you believe we vastly overpaid for him.

 

[Riverumbbq]

There is zero reason to trade Fowler. People think that good edge rushers can be had easily in the draft. They have a proven edge threat in Fowler and knew they had to extend him when they traded for him. His cap impact of an extension won't be a deal breaker. Dante was had more impact this year than Clowney and is IMO better.

The real cap headache is Havenstein. He's getting paid too much to be simply a swing player especially when they have better suited players already on the roster to start and play swing.

There is plenty reason to trade Fowler, it's called a CAP. The Rams have an estimated $24.mil in available CAP for 2020, Fowler may garner as much as $14.mil per year, that doesn't leave much for improvement elsewhere and signing the new draft class.
Borrowing by restructuring only pushes debt back and increases future CAP risk.

 

[Mackeyser]

I want us to keep Everett and for McVay to go over the Pats offense when they had Gronk and Hernandez. When they had two TEs who could both block and run routes, that damn offense was near unstoppable and would constantly give Brady easy throws. No team has enough LBs to cover two pass catching TEs.

That's what I want.

 

[Akrasian]

I want us to keep Everett and for McVay to go over the Pats offense when they had Gronk and Hernandez. When they had two TEs who could both block and run routes, that damn offense was near unstoppable and would constantly give Brady easy throws. No team has enough LBs to cover two pass catching TEs.

That's what I want.

Everett is a good receiver - it's not quite clear that he's a good blocker. It would be nice to keep him - but the Rams have needs elsewhere too, and if he has a solid or better season this year he likely will be too expensive to keep. IF the Rams can get an inexpensive player for him to fill another hole - especially someone with more than one season until free agency - then the likely wise move would be to move him for that player, most likely an OL that the Rams wanted to draft but got picked before they hoped. Or an RB who they trust to block, who has value running also.

Again, it's not that the Rams should want to move him - it's that they have hard choices to make this offseason, and filling another hole by moving him could help the team significantly. There's risk - he could break out, or Higby could get hurt. Unfortunately, the Rams are in a position where a gamble is likely necessary, with their cap situation.

 

[Ram65]

Are the Rams going to pay two TEs at high levels, while also having multiple very good WRs?

It's not a case of not valuing Everett, but a case of adjusting the roster to allow depth elsewhere too. And it might not be a trade for picks, but for a player that fills a hole elsewhere What about a trade for an inexpensive but decent LG, for instance?

Everett is a good receiver - it's not quite clear that he's a good blocker. It would be nice to keep him - but the Rams have needs elsewhere too, and if he has a solid or better season this year he likely will be too expensive to keep. IF the Rams can get an inexpensive player for him to fill another hole - especially someone with more than one season until free agency - then the likely wise move would be to move him for that player, most likely an OL that the Rams wanted to draft but got picked before they hoped. Or an RB who they trust to block, who has value running also.

Again, it's not that the Rams should want to move him - it's that they have hard choices to make this offseason, and filling another hole by moving him could help the team significantly. There's risk - he could break out, or Higby could get hurt. Unfortunately, the Rams are in a position where a gamble is likely necessary, with their cap situation.

I was going remark on your first post so I added the second one as well.

That could make sense. An OG that another team doesn't want to extend. I have always been a fan of Everett. It's been puzzling why he hasn't gotten more involved in the offense. He has had some nice flashes. It could become a catch 22 if he has a breakout year in 2020 and becomes a free agent in 2021 which could make it too expensive to pay him. I don't see the Rams giving Everett away for a mid-round draft pick but, a player that fills a need is possible.

 

[PhillyRam]

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Why is everyone trying to trade away Everett? Him and higbee together next season are gonna be huge for the rams.

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It's about maximizing the roster in terms of cost vs usage vs market value.

Everett's value for this team, that does not even like running two TEs, may not be worth passing on getting a late 3rd (if that is his market value).

That late 3rd can be used to bolster more pressing needs on this roster at a low cost and for the next 4 yrs. Everett is likely only here for one year and anything beyond that would be at a higher cost.

So when Snead talks about tradeable assets, that is the calculation they are likely looking at. As this team must make the most of every player/ asset that they have.

 

[FarNorth]

I was going remark on your first post so I added the second one as well.

That could make sense. An OG that another team doesn't want to extend. I have always been a fan of Everett. It's been puzzling why he hasn't gotten more involved in the offense. He has had some nice flashes. It could become a catch 22 if he has a breakout year in 2020 and becomes a free agent in 2021 which could make it too expensive to pay him. I don't see the Rams giving Everett away for a mid-round draft pick but, a player that fills a need is possible.

Not sure what Everett's future role is with the Rams. I like him as a receiver and a runner after the catch but I haven't seen much to show that he's more than an indifferent blocker.

Higbee has now firmly established himself as a really effective blocker and receiver. Rams will likely continue to run 2 tight end formations but not sure Everett is the second tight end. Mundt looked pretty good as a blocker and, as of right now, blocking is paramount for the Rams. They can rotate Everett in as a receiver but is he better than the starters or Reynolds?