CAMP REPORT 2019 NFL Draft Rounds 4-7 (no spoilers)

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Yet multiple times we've traded picks to move up either giving up 2 lower round picks for a higher or added these later picks. I don't pretend to know the minds of McVay and Snead but you gotta think if they had to have somebody or a position they wouldn't trade away picks that might have been used for that position.

Better to get guys that they like for their system, than JAGs.

They have their board, and when a guy they like is about to go they try to move up for them, players lower on the board be damned. They know about the future holes, and are trying to fill them - but they have next year's draft too - and they have all their picks still, plus likely two 4ths. Just they like to draft mid round/lower guys to fill holes with a year's experience if practical.
 

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If I were the Rams, I'd trade up for Emanuel Hall here. It pains me to see Rodney Anderson and Emanuel Hall available with us picking so far away.
 

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If I were the Rams, I'd trade up for Emanuel Hall here. It pains me to see Rodney Anderson and Emanuel Hall available with us picking so far away.

As a Mizzou fan, I'd be excited to see Hall in horns.
 

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Better to get guys that they like for their system, than JAGs.

They have their board, and when a guy they like is about to go they try to move up for them, players lower on the board be damned. They know about the future holes, and are trying to fill them - but they have next year's draft too - and they have all their picks still, plus likely two 4ths. Just they like to draft mid round/lower guys to fill holes with a year's experience if practical.
Sorry but I can't help but laugh.

ROD members insist we have to add an ILB, so far Rams haven't added one. ROD members say there just wasn't value or a guy they liked there. It can't be that they like what they have. ROD members insist we need to add a TE, so far Rams haven't added one. ROD members say there just wasn't value or a guy they liked there. It can't be they like what they have. ROD members say they need to add a center, we don't trust Allen or Blythe (two guys Rams coaches chose), so far they haven't added one. ROD members say there just wasn't value or a guy they liked there. Couldn't be they like what they have there.

I'm not saying they didn't or don't want to add those positions, but it's an amazingly funny thing that happens every draft. Fans insist we need to do something in the draft, Rams don't do it! Rams must have made a mistake or missed on guys they wanted. Couldn't be they didn't want that position or valued the positions taken over the ones we said they should take. Kiser didn't start last year he can't be good we have to add an ILB. Well.... Wade said they love what they have in Kiser and so far they haven't added any ILB. Maybe Wade was being honest. Maybe their guy wasn't there or maybe there wasn't a Rams guy in this draft. I do the same thing but we fans go to amazing lengths to stand up for our opinions no matter what we see from the Rams.
 

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I said he was active on game days and played special teams. And Wade made a comment about him playing this year, depending on any moves - and then the Rams signed Matthews who will likely play much of the time at ILB, and then their first pick was a hard tackling safety who will allow more special safety sets - and who is possibly a Barron type safety who can play LB too.

Barron will play some this year - but his snaps are looking more and more like he'll be getting back up time, regardless of what his official role is.

Barron ?? Who actually cares about him ??
I don’t get it ??

I do know The Rams
It's not that he didn't start. It's that even though he was a game day active for ST, he couldn't even sniff playing the occasional snap as a backup. Supposedly he has issues in pass coverage, apparently severe ones. Hopefully he has improved with a year's practice. They did pick up Matthews who will take snaps at ILB, and Rapp, who will at least take away snaps thanks to safety sets - and could even become a Barron type LB.

Wtf - Kiser lead The Rams in tackles during exhibition games . The fact he did not play for a SuperBowl team should not change his growth as a MLB .

Who is it that calls the defense?? Is Clay Matthews going to call the defensive plays ??

Why do you think Rapp is going to be a LBer ??

Travis Howard is a speed guy The Rams drafted last year. What role does he play, or does he get cut ??

The Rams stuck with building needs. The rule change for replay PI’s I think plays a part, plus developing core special team players.
 

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Nothin but respect for Josh Rosen for the way he's handled this situation Arizona has made.
 

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Or they'd love to add more - but just don't have the picks unless they trade future ones. They won't force picks though - no point in drafting a position they'd like if the guy just won't make the team.

I really hope they were right about Henderson, and that he adds an important aspect to the offense. That trade up likely cost the Rams multiple significant players. Besides the two picks it directly cost, the Rams wouldn't have needed to trade up for Evans. They could have taken Evans and a RB, still had the pick at 101 and their 4th, which would mean they wouldn't have had to trade up for Gaines.

Basically, if Henderson works out and is an impact player, then it's more than fine. But a lot of depth for 2019, and probably a starter or two in 2020, were the cost of the trade.[/QU

I get that hes a good fit and a good guy with good character etc but man he's the 5th RB right now and he has alot to do just to make it to number 3.

Hopefully he kicks ass in the return game. That's the quickest way I can see him warrant the pick.
 

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ROD members insist we have to add an ILB, so far Rams haven't added one.

Can't speak for others - since I was calling for an ILB - they added Matthews, who has been substantially an ILB the past few years, and will likely play a lot there for the Rams.


Kiser didn't start last year he can't be good

Not what I've said. It's not that he didn't start, it is that even though he was a game day active, he was blocked from playing time - even one snap on defense - by the likes of Bryce Hager, who is still unemployed. The Rams under McVay and Wade have tended to move players from backups to starter. Kiser wasn't really a backup even. Then people act like there is no doubt he'll be a starter - but the Rams' actions since Wade made a statement that he might be depending on their moves show that Kiser will likely get backup snaps, between Matthews and the many extra safety plays they are likely to run.

I do the same thing but we fans go to amazing lengths to stand up for our opinions no matter what we see from the Rams.

Yup, all of us do.
 

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Or they'd love to add more - but just don't have the picks unless they trade future ones. They won't force picks though - no point in drafting a position they'd like if the guy just won't make the team.

I really hope they were right about Henderson, and that he adds an important aspect to the offense. That trade up likely cost the Rams multiple significant players. Besides the two picks it directly cost, the Rams wouldn't have needed to trade up for Evans. They could have taken Evans and a RB, still had the pick at 101 and their 4th, which would mean they wouldn't have had to trade up for Gaines.

Basically, if Henderson works out and is an impact player, then it's more than fine. But a lot of depth for 2019, and probably a starter or two in 2020, were the cost of the trade.


He's the 5th RB now and has a lot to do just to move up to #3. I get he's a great kid and good fit and character etc but man, will his impact justify the pick.

Hopefully he kicks ass in the return game because I think we should have picked another player who would have the opportunity to actually make a significant contribution this year.
 

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He's the 5th RB now and has a lot to do just to move up to #3.

I don't agree here. I like Kelly, and don't mind Davis, but Henderson moves into the third RB spot pretty immediately from the sounds of McVay. Change of pace back right away.
 

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He's the 5th RB now and has a lot to do just to move up to #3. I get he's a great kid and good fit and character etc but man, will his impact justify the pick.

Hopefully he kicks ass in the return game because I think we should have picked another player who would have the opportunity to actually make a significant contribution this year.

Well, barring an injury, Davis is gone, leaving 4 RBs. Kelly hasn't impressed - but in any case, Henderson won't be competing against them, not really. His role is likely to be more of a change of pace home run hitter type - he comes in when Gurley needs a break and McVay decides to use a different look. Hopefully he'll break off enough long runs or burn the defense on screens that go long that when he's in the defense will need to focus on him. And yes, he's likely to be a returner too, but that's just not that important a role in the current NFL thanks to rule changes. Not important enough to trade two thirds for
 

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There's some phenomenal value at the WR position right now. Penny Hart and Emanuel Hall are both guys I like.
 

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There's some phenomenal value at the WR position right now. Penny Hart and Emanuel Hall are both guys I like.
If you had to pick two guys for the Rams right now, who do you take?
 

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These last two picks should be used on positions of strength. UDFAs are going to base their signing decisions - in part - on where they have the best chance to make the roster. We need to be picking guys we would be unlikely to be able to convince to sign with us as UDFA.
 

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If I were the Rams, I'd trade up for Emanuel Hall here. It pains me to see Rodney Anderson and Emanuel Hall available with us picking so far away.

Agreed - I think Snead moving up in the later rounds, he gave up a little much .

Then again I do like The Rams drafting 2 OT’/OG’s .

The RB they got could be a steal ?? The dude knows how to take it to the House !!

There were 2 TE’s I wanted, but Josh Oliver got drafted early & then the TE from SDSU fell right after that.

Your FS got drafted right before The Rams traded up ?? Which FS did Snead want ? Trap or your guy ??

I liked the way Les worked the draft except I think he gave up a little much ?? Then again these player The Rams drafted light fit the puzzle nicely.