CAMP REPORT 2018 NFL Draft: UDFA’s

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Nice post Bonifay, and I would be more likely to agree with all you say, but it's what McVay keeps saying about Barron that has me thinking otherwise. When talking about Barron, McVay speaks of him in the same way he does Whitworth, as someone who is a leader in the locker room and on the field.

Myself? I'm just a little bit leary about having no returning starters on the linebacking group. Especially when those who'll most likely be starting were just potty trained yesterday. Feel free to try and make me see the follies of my thinking.
Me Too your points are correct IMO. I happen to think that Barron when healthy is all pro material. I have & still remain a Mark Barron fan. I certainly can do a ton of pro comments on what he means to this Defense overall.

IMO the Rams do not have an adequate replacement for him period @ this time. But lack of cap space causes & forces negative decisions to be made. Barron must have a legit mike Lb'er lining up with him to be effective too. One last thing too is just how banged up & how much damage was his smaller framed body endured the last few seasons?? He did have major shoulder surgery, had a bad Achilles, badly broken thumb & a swollen sore knee last season.
 

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IMO, Barron's replacement got signed right after the draft when the Rams went out and got Tegray Scales.:hiding:
 

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Nice to see a few safties on the list. We could use a new UDFA backup FS.
 

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IMO, Barron's replacement got signed right after the draft when the Rams went out and got Tegray Scales.:hiding:

Are you joking or being serious? If he was good enough to replace Barron next season that would be the best case scenario for the rams.

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Reading how good all these UDFA's are makes me feel like that hamster that spins out of control and gets thrown out of his little treadmill its spinning so fast............
 

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Barron isn't going anywhere this year unless one of the rookies lights it up....significantly.
Agreed. I don’t think we cut Barrón this year even if a rookie lights it up. The fantasy of cutting Barrón all year has been... well fantasy. Next year there is a real chance of that happening but not this year.
 

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No doubt. Probably a camp arm. Here's his summary from his NFL site profile:

Overview
Perez plays with good football intelligence and an above average feel for where the football should be going both pre and post-snap. While he has enough size to fit the NFL model for a roster spot, the arm talent is in question. He can deliver the football with good accuracy, but may not have the zip on his passes to keep the throwing windows from closing. Perez's lack of mobility and arm strength will hurt his cause, but his accuracy and intangibles give him a shot to find a practice squad in a down year for quarterback depth.
Strengths

  • Has adequate NFL size. Staggering 2017 production with 5,001 passing yards, 47 TDs, and 70.6 percent completion rate. Good football intelligence and plays with a pre-snap plan. Good consistency in identifying optimal target. Uses ball placement and adequate timing to counter sub-par arm strength. Operates with calm and quiet upper body when scanning from pocket. Pocket climber. Accuracy is solid and generally throws where he aims it. Patient and willing to allow routes to develop
Weaknesses
  • Short-arms his release. Velocity on his throws is below average. Tends to float throws to the field side and may not be able to make all the NFL throws. Can be plodding in his drops and pocket set-up. Limited mobility inside the pocket and poor mobility outside of it. Will struggle to scramble and deliver strikes on the next level. Production was bolstered by a variety of hitches and wide receiver screens
Like Aaron Rodgers coming out of H.S., i like this kid's footwork.. He has good hip turn and active feet when in the pocket. His release ... is kinda weird for me.. I don't know why, just looked kinda odd and inconsistent. But that video was also not the best. you cannot and never should be content with your #3-development QB spot. No harm/no foul on this pick up
 

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great points....

being that the trade of Tavon doesn't save us a ton of cap space....and we have 11 draft picks we need to sign... at a minimum I would think that Barron would need to renegotiate or be cut...

also based upon what you just posted...the only real Mike LBs we have right today are Micah Kiser and Bryce Hagar....and if you keep Barron..he's not a Mike either...

so in terms of signing the guys we already have....and filling the positions we have available... something is likely going to happen with Barron...

I'd also add that Navarro Bowman is still unsigned... having him and Littleton on the inside....with Kiser and Romik behind them.... that sounds really good...
First, the Rams have money already allotted for draft picks and any UDFA's they sign.
Second, what in the world has made some of you think that Barron is going to be cut? They made their choice when they traded Oglestick and kept Barron. If you have ever listened to McVay you'd realise that he won't be cutting Mark any time soon. The way he speaks of Whitworth is the same way he speaks of Mark, that they are both leaders on the field and in the locker room.
Let's not forget he was the Rams leading tackler this last season. Plus it would be asinine to not have at least one returning starting linebacker.
If the Rams were going to cut Mark they already would have. But for some reason many of you have formed an opinion of Mark that he's a waste of money, which is very incorrect. As I mentioned he was the leading tackler, and he did this though he needed shoulder surgery. If you ask me, that in of itself speaks of his leadership, and the fact that he's a damn warrior. Now his shoulder has been taken care of, so just sit back and enjoy the ride and quit your whining. Sheesh!
 

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Like Aaron Rodgers coming out of H.S., i like this kid's footwork.. He has good hip turn and active feet when in the pocket. His release ... is kinda weird for me.. I don't know why, just looked kinda odd and inconsistent. But that video was also not the best. you cannot and never should be content with your #3-development QB spot. No harm/no foul on this pick up
i can see Allen as the #2 , Mannion gone and this kid on the PS
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when you look at the UDFA list .. one unit should stand out ... Safety. tells me that they are looking to improve the depth. Our starters are set. But the FT issue with LJ moving forward and the fact that most of our depth behind them is basically "tweeners". Looks like they are trying to find true "Safeties" to fill the depth spots
 

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i can see Allen as the #2 , Mannion gone and this kid on the PS
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Maybe. It's one of those things where Mannion better improve and the competition is going to bear out. One thing i have loved since SM got htere is, he brings competition into every unit during the offseason. unlike JF and his crew ... who seemed to have their "untouchables" at spots. McVay keeps people on their toes and isn't shy about making everyone earn their spots
 

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Maybe. It's one of those things where Mannion better improve and the competition is going to bear out. One thing i have loved since SM got htere is, he brings competition into every unit during the offseason. unlike JF and his crew ... who seemed to have their "untouchables" at spots. McVay keeps people on their toes and isn't shy about making everyone earn their spots
my thots, Mannion is Mannion and that's that. And he will get more expensive.
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One frustrating thing is the news coverage. They keep talking incessantly about the top 10 picks in the draft, or the top 7 QB's taken, or Shaq Griffin. I was tired of it all yesterday. I haven't seen anyone talk about the Rams draft on NFLN, instead it's fluff pieces about the above rookie segment of the class. It feels like a Spag's St Louis Rams team getting news coverage (ie, ZILCH!).
 

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One frustrating thing is the news coverage. They keep talking incessantly about the top 10 picks in the draft, or the top 7 QB's taken, or Shaq Griffin. I was tired of it all yesterday. I haven't seen anyone talk about the Rams draft on NFLN, instead it's fluff pieces about the above rookie segment of the class. It feels like a Spag's St Louis Rams team getting news coverage (ie, ZILCH!).

Not a bad thing to be under the radar right now (y):mrburnsevil:
 

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First, the Rams have money already allotted for draft picks and any UDFA's they sign.
Second, what in the world has made some of you think that Barron is going to be cut? They made their choice when they traded Oglestick and kept Barron. If you have ever listened to McVay you'd realise that he won't be cutting Mark any time soon. The way he speaks of Whitworth is the same way he speaks of Mark, that they are both leaders on the field and in the locker room.
Let's not forget he was the Rams leading tackler this last season. Plus it would be asinine to not have at least one returning starting linebacker.
If the Rams were going to cut Mark they already would have. But for some reason many of you have formed an opinion of Mark that he's a waste of money, which is very incorrect. As I mentioned he was the leading tackler, and he did this though he needed shoulder surgery. If you ask me, that in of itself speaks of his leadership, and the fact that he's a damn warrior. Now his shoulder has been taken care of, so just sit back and enjoy the ride and quit your whining. Sheesh!

Good Sunday Afternoon ReekofRams!

It was my understanding that the estimated cost of signing the Rams 11 draft selections plus UDFA's was $4.6 million. Rams currently have 2.7 million. I know...:dizzy: I am not good at math so please help me out with this.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

Another question I have is how can the Rams get Aaron Donald under contract this year so they will not have to tagged him early next year, when there's not even enough cap cash now to pay the rookies.....some serious contract Re-negotiations will be needed. Have any suggestions? What am I :thinking: missing ?:bueller:
 
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Good Sunday Afternoon ReekofRams!

It was my understanding that the estimated cost of signing the Rams 11 draft selections plus UDFA's was $4.6 million. Rams currently have 2.7 million. I know...:dizzy: I am not good at math so please help me out with this.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

Another question I have is how can the Rams get Aaron Donald under contract this year so they will not have to tagged him early next year, when there's not even enough cap cash now to pay the rookies.....some serious contract Re-negotiations will be needed. Have any suggestions? What am I :thinking: missing ?:bueller:
Signing guys to "extensions" ..such as Donald and Cooks, can actually LOWER their cap hits for this upcoming season :)
 

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Good Sunday Afternoon ReekofRams!

It was my understanding that the estimated cost of signing the Rams 11 draft selections plus UDFA's was $4.6 million. Rams currently have 2.7 million. I know...:dizzy: I am not good at math so please help me out with this.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

Another question I have is how can the Rams get Aaron Donald under contract this year so they will not have to tagged him early next year, when there's not even enough cap cash now to pay the rookies.....some serious contract Re-negotiations will be needed. Have any suggestions? What am I :thinking: missing ?:bueller:
First, when they traded Tavon it cleared up 3 million of cap space.
Second whatever contract they sign with Donald won't start until next year, or at least that is what will be in writing.
 

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One frustrating thing is the news coverage. They keep talking incessantly about the top 10 picks in the draft, or the top 7 QB's taken, or Shaq Griffin. I was tired of it all yesterday. I haven't seen anyone talk about the Rams draft on NFLN, instead it's fluff pieces about the above rookie segment of the class. It feels like a Spag's St Louis Rams team getting news coverage (ie, ZILCH!).
It's our guys but here's something.

View: http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Between-the-Horns-Lets-analyze-the-11-Rams-picks-in-the-2018-Draft/50f21ae5-0bb9-4805-99aa-c4486838c11b