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3k from Turf Show Times (Hit piece)

I spoke with 3k from Turf Show Times to get some insights into the Los Angeles Rams and the Denver Broncos upcoming preseason game at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on Saturday.

1) What's the general state of the fans of the Rams now that they have relocated to L.A.?
There's always been a schism. When the franchise relocated in 1994, they left behind a huge audience in Los Angeles that still followed the team. Having been a fan since the late 1980s, I remember that relocation pretty well. The difference is the penetration of media and the pervasiveness of social media.

There's been plenty of vitriol between certain LA and St. Louis fans which is to be expected. This is the internet. Several, perhaps many, people are horrible. You might have noticed. That's not specific to football.

But in terms of the general state, I think it's tough to get a sincere, accurate sense of the base right now. St. Louis is yet to deal with its first season watching the Rams from afar and recalibrating their NFL allegiances the way LA did 21 years ago. Los Angeles has yet to adjust to regular season home football and the impact of #Rams #Fisherball #7and9bullshit.

Suffice to say, it's been fascinating as hell to watch it go down, but I'd just say it's still in the middle of the process of relocating. With the Rams long-term home stadium not even opening until 2019, it's a chapter of Rams history that's still being written.

2) Tell us about two players that are standing out so far in the preseason but people outside of your fan base probably don't know very much.
So the big two are TE Tyler Higbee and WR Nelson Spruce. Both have shone in training camp practices. Both had big performances in the preseason opener against the Dallas Cowboys. Both missed the second game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Both are giving Rams fans hope that the passing game won't be as anemic as it was in 2015. Both are likely being forced to carry expectations far too high for a fourth-round tight end and a UDFA WR both yet to play a single regular season game in the NFL.

3) What is the story on Jared Goff so far? Are your fans liking what they see?
Whew. It's probably an encapsulation of everything that's really wrong with the Rams under Jeff Fisher. The Rams traded quite a bit of draft capital, both in the 2016 NFL Draft as well as next year's draft, to move up to the #1 overall pick. To do so after putting up the 32nd-ranked offense in the NFL in yards gained in 2015 implies that Jared Goff alone would be able to resuscitate a limp offensive unit. To this point, he's been unable to beat out Case Keenum for the starting gig (and that's by and large fair given Goff's performances in the two games and in practice to this point).

The quarterback who couldn't beat out Austin Davis or Shaun Hill in 2014 and was a backup to Nick Foles who led the NFL's worst offense for most of last year is now clearly beating out the rookie #1 overall pick the Rams mortgaged most of their future to select.
That's scary in terms what that says not only about Goff but about how Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher, who has the ultimate authority in personnel moves, and General Manager Les Snead have guided the depth chart at the most important position in sports in the last few years.

In 2014, the Rams brought Case Keenum in after the 2014 preseason but ahead of Week 1 of the regular season. Having joined the team so late in the process, he was unable to make the active roster as the Rams opted instead to roll with the duo of Shaun Hill and Austin Davis. Last year, we traded a seventh-round draft pick to get Keenum back from the Houston Texans who had scooped him off of our practice squad. With Nick Foles the unquestioned starter to open the season, the only question was if Keenum would outpace Sean Mannion, the Rams' 2015 NFL Draft third-round pick, for the backup spot. He did and after Foles' performances became less and less acceptable, Keenum took over the starting job late in the year.

Just to recap: the QB who couldn't beat out Austin Davis or Shaun Hill in 2014 and was a backup to Nick Foles who led the NFL's worst offense for most of last year is now clearly beating out the rookie #1 overall pick the Rams mortgaged most of their future to select. That is a sad, sad, sad sentence.

4) What does your fan base think of Jeff Fisher or as many of us like to call him, "Mr. 7-9"? Is he taking the players in the right direction?
Here's the scary thing. There are people who have paid attention to the Rams since 2012 who aren't calling for Jeff Fisher to be fired after four losing seasons and transforming the Rams from a 7-win team in 2012 to a 7-win team in 2015. I sincerely believe there's a segment of Rams fans for whom Jeff Fisher will never be bad enough to condemn. For a franchise that hasn't produced a winning season since 2003, I think there's just so much tolerance and acceptance among the fans for failure that Jeff Fisher has found perhaps the only environment that doesn't excoriate him for his output since taking the job in 2012.

5) In a dream world, what two players would you take from the Broncos team to help improve yours?
WR Demaryius Thomas for sure. The Rams haven't had a plus split end since the Torry Holt/Isaac Bruce days. After him, it's a bit tough. It's easy to turn to the defense, but that's been the strength of the Rams' roster as well. The need to upgrade the offense is so overwhelming I'm tempted to double-dip in spite of the quality of the defense. Tempted. I can't though. I'll tab Chris Harris to help us out in the secondary.

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Please get me straight on OT Isaiah Battle

Question here for all our members................Why has OT Isaiah Battle being placed on the final proposed 53 player roster by so many fans? I read often here & many other forums seeing him listed as the third swing OT over many other reserve OT's. I see my fellow members here having him assigned to the 53 player roster? I think what am I missing here I must be one dumb Ram fan. I just don't see it. I have not seen it. I have yet to see him take on any DE on the field in any NFL game regular season or pre season to this date.

The epic adventure of #1-OLT Greg Robinson is well posted about. Meanwhile I know a good amount about #2- OT Rob Havenstein who was the top rookie ORT last season. I have also consider myself a well informed fan on what #3- OT Rodger Saffold has done playing both OT positions for many seasons. I have seen #4- OT Darrell Williams last season in cameo series handle both of the OT posts in a actual NFL games & held his own without any issues, same can be said about both his pre season games this season. I watched rookie 4th rd. selection #5- OT Andrew Donnal last season as a rookie start 2 OL positions @ ORT & OLG & finish a game as the starter @ ORG post plus. I have observe Donnal in both pre season games mostly @ ORT but some ORG. Donnal has looked very much improved from last season & has played very well. I also seen rookie #6- OLT Pace Murphy play like a long time veteran making zero mistakes in both 3rd & 4th quarter action in both pre season games. Even #7 OT Swindle has looked good late in both pre season games @ ORT.

Now is it possible for someone tell me what our No#8 OT Isaiah Battle has done? & Why is do we have so many automatic projected assignments to the master 53 player roster? Can anyone take the time to help out this dumb clueless Ram fan & make a serious argument :rant:on the behalf of OT Isaiah Battle.o_O.

Russell Wilson on moving N.C. nuptials

Add Russell Wilson to the fairly long list of people who have made changes to plans because of North Carolina's controversial transgender bathroom law. The Seahawks quarterback reportedly moved his wedding from North Carolina to London because of H.B.2, the "bathroom bill" that's in place where he played college football.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...ptials-i-just-believe-jesus-loves-all-people/

Asked about his decision to move the wedding, Russell said the most Russell thing possible, not acknowledging what he did, while also sending a message and incorporating Jesus.

"I'm just going to simply talk about, I just believe Jesus loves all people," Wilson said, via ESPN's Sheil Kapadia. "That's honestly what I believe, and I just always constantly pray for world peace. I pray for peace in the world. I pray for joy. But my focus right now is just on the Cowboys and scoring in the red zone."

Those last two sentences are going to make for a heck of a yearbook quote for some lucky kid in the next few years. Maybe the comments will go largely unnoticed, which is fine.

He's not saying anything controversial, which is a hallmark of Wilson's, and he's managing to squeeze in something about hard work and religion, also both hallmarks of Wilson answers.

The bottom line is Wilson doesn't agree with the law and he took somewhat of a stand against it by moving his wedding. But the reality of the timing for him -- the season starts in just a few weeks and the Seahawks are a legitimate threat to win the Super Bowl -- means he's not interested in creating an unnecessary controversy around himself.
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God I hate him even more now.Sounds like he's Michael jackson and Diana Ross's Bastard child.

"I Pray for World Peace and puppy dogs and I hope one day we can build a merry-go -round that the
whooole world can fit on at one time and then we could sing kumbaya all day long until there are
no more bad people in the world"


SUCK MY NUTS!! RUSSELL WILSON.SUCK MY NUTS!

Aug-25 Camp Thread

Getting Ready to go right now. I'll be focusing on Wr's (Quick, Thomas), DB's, (Gaines, Hill), OL, ( Battle Havenstien), 7 on 7's, 11 on 11's. It Probably won't go like that, they keep changing fields and its impossible to see everything, so much is going on at the same time. Just have to focus on what comes up in front. Looking forward to meeting some RFU members.
Hope to get enough for a decent cap report.

What would you trade for Josh Gordon ?

RotoWorld :
ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi reported Wednesday there is a "cynical point of view out there" that the Browns leaked a report about trade offers for Gordon in order to drum up more interest. Brown said he was not going to "entertain" that "speculation." It is important to note, however, Brown did say every player has a price, and saying the team is "not looking to trade" is considerably different than saying Gordon will not be traded. Gordon will most likely stay in Cleveland, but it is not a given. Aug 25 - 12:35 PM
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

After giving up a 1'st, 2'nd & 3'rd round pick to the Titans in 2016, and a 1'st & 3'rd in 2017, the Rams don't have a lot of available picks to move out of, although ... there is a good deal of speculation that the Rams will earn a 3'rd round Compensatory pick in 2017 :

turfshowtimes :
"If the Rams get a compensatory pick in the third round of the 2017 draft, the third-round pick sent to Tennessee will be the compensatory selection, not the standard third-round pick assigned to Los Angeles. If the Rams don’t get a third-round compensatory pick, the Titans get the Rams’ regular third-round pick, and the Titans seventh-round pick will go to L.A."

OK, we can't use a potential future 3'rd for a trade, but would you or do you believe the Rams would be willing to give our 2017 2'nd round pick for Josh Gordon, or do we have a player they would like coupled with a 4'th or later round pick which might make it work ?

Prior to a trade the Rams would probably want permission to work on a re-newing of Gordon's contract, but he won't be available until regular season game 5 anyway. I'd hope we would be up to it. Gordon added to our offense makes us very dangerous, not that we don't present a threat already, but this would really up the ante'. jmo

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Case Keenum, from two-star HS prospect to Rams starting QB

Are you a fan of Case Keenum

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 77.6%
  • No

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 14.3%

Case Keenum, from two-star HS prospect to Rams starting QB
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August 25, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen

Imagine growing up in one state, going to college in that same state and then playing football in the NFL for that state. Not common right? Well, that would be Case Keenum's football life in a nutshell.


Keenum was born in Brownwood, Texas. He stayed there as long as he could. He attended Wylie high school in Abilene, Texas. He started 42 games at Wylie and accumulated 6,783 yards and 48 touchdowns passing, On top of those lofty statistics he also racked up the rushing yards with 2,000 and 41 rushing touchdowns. He led his school to their only state championship in their history. While he seemed to be the total package at his school's standards he was just one of a million at the position.


The Texas QB was rated a two-star QB prospect by Scout.com and Rivals.com. The uncertainty about Keenum showed as only the local Texas teams seemed to even take a look at Keenum or maybe they were the only ones who even knew about him. He received interest from University of Texas El Paso, Baylor, North Texas and Houston. He ended up committing to Houston which was surprisingly the only school out of the bunch to offer Keenum a scholarship.


During his freshman year in 2006 Keenum had to take a backseat behind former NFL starter in his own right -- Kevin Kolb. Due to belief in Keenum, the coaches didn't want to waste anytime and decided to redshirt the freshman.


Kolb went on to the NFL to be drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles and that left a QB competition tied up between the redshirt Freshman Keenum and the Sophomore Blake Joseph who had been waiting in the wings a year before him. Keenum ended up winning the battle due to his superior pocket presence and accuracy even despite the fact he was completely outmatched by Joseph's athleticism and his superior arm strength.


In 2008 the next year Keenum would get into his groove throwing for over 5,000 yards in what was just the second time a Houston QB had accomplished such a feat. The guy before him? Not Kolb believe it or not it was David Klingler from the early 1990's. Keenum would also go on to lead the Cougars to their first bowl game win since 1980, he would also end up winning Conference USA Player of the Year.


The next season Keenum would continue throwing for a massive tally of yards. Unfortunately though come season's end the loss in the bowl game didn't really help his season. Keenum's Junior season ended up ending in horrible fashion, a torn ACL.


Keenum was granted another year of eligibility by the NCAA and he led his team to their best season going undefeated and then unfortunately losing in the conference championship game to an Austin Davis led Southern Mississippi squad. Sure, Keenum wanted the championship but his time with Houston wasn't over yet. He led Houston to a bowl game victory over Penn State in the Ticket City Bowl.


After his historic college career came to a close, Keenum signed with his hometown team in the form of the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent. Keenum was brought onto the practice squad but shortly after was promoted to the active roster. He would go on to start for the Texans in 2013 in relief for injured QB Matt Schaub and benched T.J. Yates. Head coach at the time Gary Kubiak was a big fan of Keenum.


The next season Kubiak was out and in was former Penn State coach Bill O'Brien. The Texans made a move to acquire the former Arkansas Razorback Ryan Mallett via a trade with the Patriots. Due to this acquisition Keenum was left as the odd man out and was waived, the Rams ended up claiming him off waivers. A couple months after the Rams made a trade for former first-round pick safety Mark Barron and to make room, Keenum was cut.

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Where are they now?: Rams castoff edition

Where are they now?: Rams castoff edition
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August 25, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen

Many players have come and gone with the Rams but it's always interesting to see former players who were drafted by the Rams and what they do next. Surprisingly as mediocre as the Rams have been, teams like the New England Patriots and Pittsburgh Steelers covet our former players. Here is what our active ex-Rams are up to in the NFL.


Quarterback


Sam Bradford (2010 1st-Overall Pick) - Unfortunately Bradford turned out to be quite the bust due to the amount of injuries. The Rams traded him for recently released QB Nick Foles and a second-round pick that was used in the haul for the trade up to select Jared Goff. Bradford has been a solid quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles and was re-signed for another two years.


Ryan Fitzpatrick (2005 7th-Round Pick)- We know about "Fitzmagic" and what he brings to the table. The former Harvard grad drafted by the Rams, has had a solid career and currently starts for the New York Jets. He has thrown 48 touchdowns and only 23 interceptions over the last two seasons.


Garrett Gilbert (2014 6th-Round Pick) - Gilbert didn't make the roster for the opening season and has since gone on to win a super bowl with the Patriots. No, he had no part in winning that and is a free agent right now.


Running back


Isaiah Pead (2012 2nd-Round Pick)- Highly touted Cincinnati back Pead turned out to not be the heir to Steven Jackson like we all had hoped. Pead stuck on the roster for seemingly the fact he was picked so high. Eventually Pead would be let go and after being let go by the Steelers it appears Pead may have found a home in Miami. He has gone for 98 yards on 14 carries and even has shown some flexibility in the passing game making a catch for 30 yards in the first two preseason games. It appears Pead and the Rams have moved on and it's a little uplifting after his injuries and criticism in St. Louis, Pead looks to finally be nearing a roster spot in which he fully earned.


Daryl Richardson (2012 7th-Round Pick) - In that same draft Pead was taken in. Richardson stole Pead's thunder and outplayed him all the way through camp and into the regular season. Richardson was waived by the Rams in 2014 which started his three-team ricochet until finally staying with a team. The Steelers are liking what they are seeing out of Richardson and he could end up making the final roster.


Zac Stacy (2013 5th-Round Pick) - Stacy came off quite the rookie season almost eclipsing 1,000 yards on the ground. That shortly after went away as the Rams drafted Tre Mason who is just about gone from the Rams in the third-round of the next season's draft. After Stacy would end up tweeting "yikes" as the response to the Rams drafting Todd Gurley at no. 10 overall in the 2015 draft and Stacy was then dealt in that very draft for a seventh-round pick. Stacy has since been fighting for carries with the Jets but to no avail and he was recently cut by the Jets. Stacy still remains a free agent.


Wide Receiver


Chris Givens (2012 4th-Round Pick) - The field stretching speedster was traded last year in somewhat of a puzzling trade to say the least. He has the most receiving yards of any Jeff Fisher/Les Snead era WR they drafted. Givens signed with the Eagles this offseason which reunites him with old Rams teammate Sam Bradford. Givens is expected to be the team's slot receiver or fourth receiver.


Greg Salas (2011 4th-Round Pick) - Salas was never really given much of a chance to prove himself ended up getting traded to the Patriots his rookie season. After that he basically bounced around to multiple teams and suffered some season ending injuries along the way. The Buffalo Bills seem to have given Salas a home and they just extended his contract this offseason. Salas is looking at possibly becoming the starting slot receiver for the Bills.


Tight End


Michael Hoomanawanui (2010 5th-Round Pick) - Hoomanawanui looked like a solid tight end and flashed some potential at times but health was his downfall. He seemed to always be hurt. He was cut and shortly after he was picked up by the Patriots in which he went on to win a Super Bowl. The Patriots trading Hommanawanui to the New Orleans Saints for DT Akiem Hicks. He is mainly used at FB and as a blocking TE rather than the pass catcher he was presumed to be coming out of Illinois.


Offensive line


John Greco (2008 3rd-Round Pick) - Greco spent three years in St. Louis before being traded for a conditional 2012 draft pick. Greco ended up playing very well for the Cleveland Browns and has been there since the trade. He is a borderline pro bowl candidate every year.


Richie Incognito (2005 3rd-Round Pick) - He's the former training camp bully turned top five guard in the league. Incognito was drafted by the Rams. He had some serious talent but he was released because he couldn't control his anger, leading the penalties to fly. Incognito got picked up by the Buffalo Bills then was waived and became a Miami Dolphin then after that stint he took a year off to go back to the Bills and rank as the no.2 overall offensive guard in the league by Pro Football Focus.


Barrett Jones (2013 4th-Round Pick) - He bounced around some teams before joining the Eagles, the team he is on now. Is on the team's roster bubble at the moment.


Mitchell Van Dyk (2014 7th-Round Pick) - The Rams took a shot on the OL out of Portland State. They ended up cutting him the same year he was drafted. He went on to be picked up by the Steelers and now he is on the Indianapolis Colts roster.

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Nine possible surprise cuts the Rams would need to look at

Nine possible surprise cuts the Rams would need to look at
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August 22, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen


It's that time again. . .Players are about to be released from their teams and join new teams which could help out. Sometimes a change of scenery is all it takes for a player to reach their potential. Here are 12 players that I believe could be handed their walking papers. If this is the case the Rams would need to take a look.


JaCorey Shepherd, Cornerback, Philadelphia Eagles

The Philadelphia Eagles were about to name their late round rookie JaCorey Shepherd the nickel corner. Well unfortunately the former Kansas star ended up colliding into teammate Darren Sproles in camp and he tore his ACL which would end his rookie season before it started. Now he is trying to come back and still hasn't been able to suit up in preseason so with a different coaching staff and not the one that originally drafted him. This could be the end of Shepherd in an eagles uniform.


The Rams are in dire need of finding talent at the CB position whether they want to admit it or not. The 23-year-old corner has the talent to be in the nickel spot which the Rams could look to bolster if Joyner and company continues to struggle.


Dee Milliner, Cornerback, New York Jets

The former first-round pick is treading in deep water and it's only a matter until he drowns. Milliner self proclaimed himself the best corner in the league and he has yet to show that he is a solid corner in the league yet. I think the Jets could end up cutting him. While you hear all the positive stuff in the world about Milliner in camp, you just don't see it on the field and thats a problem.


Again, the Rams are in need of talent at the CB position. While Milliner has struggled again a change of scenery could help him and especially playing more zone which is what Gregg Williams' defense does.


Marquess Wilson, Wide receiver, Chicago Bears

Interesting name here and I don't expect many to recognize it. Marquess Wilson is a 6-foot-4 206 pound wide receiver. He has been trying to come back from a fractured foot injury but the problem is guys are impressing during his time on the shelf. So Wilson figures to be cut.


Mike Groh is used to coaching this guy, Wilson is only 23 years old and with the size he has and being familiar with Groh. Wilson could pay off in a big way. This move would really signal the end of Brian Quick if it came after the final roster was decided.


Pierre Garcon, Wide receiver, Washington Redskins

A veteran possession receiver who is going downhill and being less a part of the offense in Washington.


Garcon could come in and be the no. 2 wide receiver alongside Kenny Britt. I don't think he's a guaranteed cut nor do I think Garcon would be a game changer but at this point he would be useful for a Rams team that are lacking big play wide receivers who can actually be a weapon instead of a liability with unreliable hands.


Brandon Coleman, Wide receiver, New Orleans Saints

Perhaps one of my favorite WRs just based off his size. I watched him at Rutgers he's 6-foot-6 220 pounds. He was a projected third-round pick by Mel Kiper on draft night back in the 2014 NFL draft. He is only 24-years-old and with his size and the way he flashed potential last season he could be a red-zone specialist if need be.


The Rams might be better off with trying Coleman out since none of the WRs vying for a spot have really done anything to stand out in game besides Nelson Spruce.

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Los Angeles Rams Fantasy football preview

With the 1st pick in the fantasy draft do you choose Gurley?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 80.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Don't get the #1 pick ever so I don't worry about it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

Los Angeles Rams Fantasy football preview
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August 18, 2016 | By : Jake Ellenbogen

The L.A. Rams open up the regular season September 12th, and if you play fantasy football here is a look at the Rams from a fantasy football perspective.


Must-have Rams


Todd Gurley, RB - Well there is not much to say that has already said about the former Georgia product. The only debate fantasy wise is this, "Should you draft Todd Gurley number one overall?". I have the answer for you and the answer is yes and here's why:

  • He's the number one back on the team by a country mile

  • He is going into the 2016 season fully healthy unlike last year

  • Gurley is the obvious focal point of the Ram offense

  • He is only going to improve with better QB play and that play can only go up from here

  • The Rams will use Gurley in the passing game much more often

  • If you are tied between Gurley and Peterson then your tie-breaker should be who you would rather root for. Well if you are a Rams fan then that is a no-brainer
Average draft position: 1st overall-5th overall


Rams D/ST - Every year the Rams have a formidable defense and especially fantasy. The Rams have the best defensive line in all of football that should get you sack after sack. Hard-hitting players such as linebacker/safety Mark Barron, new starting safety Maurice Alexander and safety T.J. McDonald should force some fumbles during this season. Ball hawk shutdown corner Trumaine Johnson is coming off a breakout season in which he had seven interceptions. All in all this unit should net you a top five fantasy defense if they perform to their fullest.


Average draft position: 2nd-to-last round


Tavon Austin, WR - Austin has not been the most reliable fantasy option but he did enjoy a season in which he had ten total touchdowns. He also is looking at the same offensive coordinator Rob Boras calling the shots as well as respected new-comer former Bears WR coach now turned rams passing game coordinator and WR coach -- Mike Groh. Austin should end up having the rookie no. 1 overall pick throwing to him too so this could be the season Austin finally catches 100+ balls and flirts with 800-1,000 yards. If he does that he could be a highly coveted fantasy player.


Average draft position: 9th round


Tyler Higbee, TE - Make this pick towards the end of the draft and no one will know what you just did. Tyler Higbee might already be the best receiving option on the Rams. With a rookie quarterback in Jared Goff and an offense with heavy emphasis on tight ends Higbee could shine early on. He already has looked good in camp don't miss out on him when he becomes a waiver-wire steal halfway through the year. You are the only one who will think of drafting him so pull the trigger.


Average draft position: Undrafted


Rams to monitor


Jared Goff, QB - I personally would avoid him at all costs but maybe that's because I am superstitious and don't like having Rams QB's. Anyway Goff is a guy to monitor he most likely won't have a ROY season. However if he does explode be ready to scoop him up in free agency. I could see any scenario with Goff the issue is that rookie quarterbacks are often times hit-or-miss.

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Rams 53-man roster predictions: Preseason week two edition

Take your pick: Brian Quick or Nelson Spruce?

  • Spruuuuce

    Votes: 59 95.2%
  • Quick

    Votes: 3 4.8%

Rams 53-man roster predictions: Preseason week two edition
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August 18, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen

The Rams made it through week one of the preseason and now they will play their last game in L.A. until week two of the regular season against the Seattle Seahawks. After this game it will be time to cut the roster down to 75. Here is the updated regular season week one roster prediction as of preseason week two.


1.QB1: Jared Goff

2.QB2: Case Keenum

3.QB3: Sean Mannion

4.RB1: Todd Gurley

5.RB2: Benny Cunningham

6.RB3: Malcolm Brown

7.RB4: Chase Reynolds

8.WR1: Kenny Britt

9.WR2: Tavon Austin

10.WR3: Pharoh Cooper

11.WR4: Bradley Marquez

12.WR5: Nelson Spruce

13.WR6: Duke Williams

14.TE1: Lance Kendricks

15.TE2: Tyler Higbee

16.TE3: Cory Harkey

17.TE4: Temarrick Hemingway

18.LT1: Greg Robinson

19.LT2: Darrell Williams

20.LG1: Rodger Saffold

21.LG2: Garrett Reynolds

22.C1: Tim Barnes

23.C2: Eric Kush

24.RG1: Jamon Brown

25.RG2: Cody Wichmann

26.RT: Rob Havenstein

27.DE1: Robert Quinn

28.DE2: William Hayes

29.DE3: Eugene Sims

30.DE4: Quinton Coples

31.DE5: Ethan Westbrooks

32.DE6: Matt Longacre

33.DT1: Aaron Donald

34.DT2: Michael Brockers

35.DT3: Dominique Easley

36.MLB: Alec Ogletree

37.OLB1: Mark Barron

38.OLB2: Akeem Ayers

39.OLB3: Cameron Lynch

40.OLB4: Bryce Hager

41.CB1: Trumaine Johnson

42.CB2: LaMarcus Joyner

43.CB3: E.J. Gaines

44.CB4: Coty Sensabaugh

45.CB5: Marcus Roberson

46.CB6: Mike Jordan

47.FS1: Mo Alexander

48.FS2: Cody Davis

49.FS3: Christian Bryant

50.SS1: T.J. McDonald

51.K: Greg Zuerlein

52.P: Johnny Hekker

53.LS: Jake McQuaide


Notable roster cuts:


Aaron Green, Running back - This is only going to get tougher as the preseason moves along. Green has already looked like a back worth keeping.


Brian Quick, Wide receiver - Still don't see him making the roster. The emergence of guys like Nelson Spruce and hopefully Duke Williams will be too much for Quick to overcome.


Mike Thomas, Wide receiver - Thomas had a couple of drops week one or the preseason and as of right now Nelson Spruce poured on some pressure for the 6th round pick out of Southern Miss. We will see if Thomas can bounce back, if not he could be looking at practice squad stint at best.

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Rams kicker Greg Zuerlein awaits chance to redeem himself

http://www.espn.com/blog/st-louis-r...eg-zuerlein-awaiting-chance-to-redeem-himself

Alden Gonzalez


IRVINE, Calif. -- Los Angeles Rams kicker Greg Zuerlein spent the entire offseason poring through video, trying to figure out how to improve on a season in which he missed a third of his field-goal attempts. Several of those misses sailed wide right, and Zuerlein noticed that sometimes he was opening his foot up just a tad. So he worked on it. He also only made a third of his attempts from 50-plus yards away, so he has made sure to take additional reps from a great distance.

Now he just needs to implement it all in a game.

The Rams' preseason schedule is halfway done, and Zuerlein, in desperate need of a bounce-back season, has yet to attempt a field goal. He's kicked three extra points and nothing else, with backup kicker Taylor Bertolet taking the other four. So Zuerlein is hoping for some work on Saturday, Week 3 of the preseason schedule, when the Rams play the defending-champion Broncos in Denver at 6 p.m. PT.


"I’ll never be mad scoring touchdowns," Zuerlein said. "But ideally you get some kicks in the game, because you can’t mimic those in practice. You can get close, but to feel the rush, and just the atmosphere, everything -- the actual goal post, instead of what we have here. It’s important to get that. I’m confident we will get some."

Zuerlein, 28, made only 20 of his 30 field-goal attempts last season, a rate of 66.7 percent. It was by far the worst percentage in the NFL among kickers who attempted at least 20 field goals. The man directly above Zuerlein, Sebastian Janikowski of the Oakland Raiders, converted 80.8 percent of his field goals. And among those with at least 30 attempts since 2006, Zuerlein's mark was the third-worst.

"It was not a good year, just simply put," said Zuerlein, who made 82 percent of his attempts during his previous three seasons. "I’m a lot better than what I showed. Really, I just have to do better."


It isn't far-fetched to say that a better Zuerlein might have made the Rams a playoff team last year.

Consider: They lost nine games, and three of those losses were decided by three points. And in each of those, Zuerlein missed a field goal wide right. There was the Nov. 8 game in Minnesota, down 18-15 with less than two minutes left, when Zuerlein missed a 48-yard attempt (though he later made the 53-yard field goal that sent the game to overtime). There was the Nov. 22 game in Baltimore, when Zuerlein missed a 52-yard field goal with the score knotted at 13 and less than two minutes left. And there was the Jan. 3 finale from San Francisco, when he missed another 52-yarder with the Rams up by three late in the third quarter.

None of those were easy, of course.

Zurelein's nine attempts from 50 or more yards out were tied for the second-most in the league last year. But his conversion rate from that distance (33 percent) was well below the NFL average (65 percent).

"The way I see it is the opportunities are there for me to be great," Zuerlein said of how he evaluates his success rate from so far away. "Getting that many opportunities to kick from deep is awesome. Teams don’t even try them. And so I look at it from the standpoint of I’m given the opportunity to do really big things, and unfortunately I haven’t converted on them. And that’s what I’ve been working on in the offseason, trying to make as many of those long kicks as possible so I can convert on those for the team in the future."

OFFICIAL ROD - Players cut by other teams we should sign thread.

Might be cleaner for the board if we have one thread where we can discuss players cut by other teams we could contemplate signing. We all know there will be the first level of cut downs on Tuesday 15 people a team there's 480 potential future former Rams we could contemplate signing. I can update the title with notable cuts I think?

Fisher could finally pull the plug on the Brian Quick (article)

http://profootballspot.com/nfl/arti...le-rams-patience-for-quick-running-thin-r299/

By Tim Godfrey

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The Rams are going into Year Five of the Quick Project and the receiver has yet to catch 1,000 yards for his career. Photo Credit: USA Today - Sports

Fisher could finally pull the plug on the Brian Quick Project after 5 years


The Los Angeles Rams brought back Brian Quick on a one-year/$1.5 million contract. But he might not even make it to the end of training camp, let alone the end of the year.

Quick needed solid performances during his preseason appearances against the Dallas Cowboys and the Kansas City Chiefs. He failed to accomplish to do to just that in either game. Against the Chiefs, Quick recorded two catches. The week prior, he only caught one.

Now, he could be dropped himself.

Quick’s lack of catches falls more on himself than it does on the quarterback. During the Chiefs game, Quick dropped a couple of passes. One pass was directly into his chest with the nearest defender being a few yards from him. Quick dropped it.

“I have confidence in my hands,” Quick said to ESPN’s Alden Gonzalez. “Most of those things are just timing anyway, with the quarterback and me.”

Regardless of what it falls on, head coach Jeff Fisher said it plain and simple: “Your receivers have to catch (the ball).”

“(Quick)’s had too many drops, so he’s going to have to focus on that,” Fisher said.

Quick was a second-round draft pick that many expected to be a project. Fisher and general manager Les Snead felt confident in his ability, however, and felt they needed to take him high before anyone else did.

Now, the project looks to have run it’s course. The Rams are going into Year Five of the Quick Project and the receiver has yet to catch 1,000 yards for his career.

From 2012 to 2015, Quick’s catching percentage has been well below average; catching 47 percent of the 135 targets over five years.

A more disappointing look at the number finds that despite playing in 51 games, Quick was targeted less than twice-a-game (1.7).

The team will certainly have Tavon Austin, Kenny Britt, and rookie Pharoh Cooper be a big part of their passing game. After that, Fisher said the competition to make the final 53 is wide-open.

The Rams wide receiver competition is proving to be a lot more competitive than in recent years. Outside the previous three, guys like Nelson Spruce and Paul McRoberts have made names for themselves in the last few weeks.

Spruce had a great game against Dallas, but fell to a sprained knee. When healthy, Spruce is a great option in the passing game.

Bradley Marquez has proven himself to be a great special teams player.

Quick could find himself the odd-man-out. He can’t contribute on special teams and he has proven to be a less than reliable receiver on offense.

Quick has shown he can be a good receiver. In 2014, Quick appeared to be turning in a career season. He played seven games before he was knocked out for the season with a shoulder injury, as luck would have it.

But during those seven games, his catching percentage increased, he turned in the highest amount of receiving yards (375) and caught a career-high three touchdowns.

Those numbers seem rather meager, but for Quick, this was improvement. He was proving his worth.

But the following year, he regressed dramatically, only catching 10 passes in 13 games.

This weekend’s game against the Denver Broncos is do-or-die for Quick. Roster cuts are due by the end of the month and his name is not off the chopping block.

This weekend could be the last time we see Quick in a Los Angeles Rams jersey. Should he play well and catch more than two passes, he could stave off the roster cuts another week.

But time is running out.

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B.Quick is in the fight of his life... I give him an 80% chance to make the final 53 if he catches every ball that touches his hands at Denver and Minnesota. If he has drops at Denver he's likely cut on 08/30/2016.

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My observations from Rams Camp on Tuesday

Now this is important to understand. I have followed this team through the highs and the lows. The move from LA (Anaheim) to St. Louis didn’t deter me. I have watched this team every year and hoping that this is the year. 1999 was magical, we all know that. I can’t put my finger on it but this team is different. They are going places. Whether it is the play calling of Boras, the route running of the receivers, the line blocking of the offense. Something is different and in a good way. To add to this, the intensity level was cranked way up. The players were showing what they could bring to the table. It made for an enjoyable practice.

On to the camp report. The usual warm ups took place. Special teams kick off and returns. Defense was on the far field so I didn’t see much of what was going on over there.

Battle and Havenstein were dressed but did individual drills on the sidelines. Kenny Britt didn’t participate in the practice but was on the field helping out. Never saw #3 WR North. Quinn was dressed but didn’t participate in any contact drills.

During 7 on 7, Goff went through his progressions but in four passes, he went to Higbee three times and Quick once. Quick dropped a sure catch, hit him in the hands and it would have been a TD. Higbee caught one about 3 yards’ shy of the end zone along the sideline, made a spin move and fought his way in for the TD. Nice move. Two takeaways from the 7 on 7. Goff went through his progressions and chose the safe outlet, Higbee. Modest gains in yards but they add up. The corners were covering well. That would be Tru J. and EJ. It wasn’t no picnic for the WR.

Keenum looked good during 7 on 7 as did Mannion although Mannion was not as crisp. Did well but didn’t make you go WOW. Hemmingway caught a TD from Keenum that looked real good. Good route, good patience from Case to wait for the open man. If I remember correctly, Hemminway was lined up in the slot on that play.

The real fun started when Goff started the 11 on 11 session with the 1st string. He was a different QB from what we have seen so far. He got the play call through the headset in the huddle, called the play, every skill position player lined up correctly (no last second changes from Goff) and executed the count. My point is he showed a command of the huddle, an understanding of the play called and his teammates responded like pro-football players should. The O line provided good protection and I didn’t see anyone getting close to the QB for a sack.

There were the obligatory hand offs to Gurley that went smooth as silk. Goff was showing a good fake after the hand-off too. The D line and linebackers did their part too. Run players were pretty much a stalemate. Then the passes started.

We all know Goff has a quick release. He demonstrated that a plenty Tuesday. One of his most impressive throws was a streaking Lance Kendricks going up the left sideline, made some sort of move to create separation from an unknown defender, had a two-step cushion and Goff throws a pass like he did to Cooper in the Dallas game. A frozen rope, a line drive. Hit Kendricks in stride, right in the hands and Lance trots in for the TD. This was a 30-40yard throw in the air. Most QB’s tend to arc the ball up high and let it fall into the receivers’ hands. Not Goff. His type of throw does not allow a safety to react and have a chance for a pass breakup. It was beautiful and the crowd responded with claps and cheers.

Other throws were right on the money. Higbee caught a pass at the right sideline then spun towards the inside of the field freeing himself from a sure tackle or knocked out of bounds then fought his way into the end zone.

T. Magee took a screen pass out of the backfield and gained some good yards. Can’t wait to see Gurley do that. By the way, Gurley was used sparingly.

Case Keenum came in with the second team for his turn during the 11 on 11. It was not all that good for him. First he did a simple handoff to the running back Brown but either Brown didn’t take the right angle or Case stepped too far out and they had a mild collision. No fumble but Brown was stopped at the line. Is this a case of a new QB playing for the first time with this unit? Maybe. But Case had difficulties connecting with his receivers. On a deep post route to the end zone, a fast moving David Richards #12 was open but the ball was horribly overthrown.

Hemmingway looks like a keeper. Could be used in a WR role and not so much shoe horned in at TE. Higbee is riped and has great hands. Didn’t see if he had blocking assignments but he sure knows how to get open and catches the ball. Missed seeing Spruce, still in a knee brace. Cory Harkey is very good at blocking and can catch although he was only targeted I think once during 7 on 7 and once more on 11 on 11. The other receivers did well with the exception of Quick.

Quick dropped a sure TD that square in his hands in the end zone. He was covered tightly but the ball was perfect. Goff threw it. On another play I think it was Mannion throwing, Quick catches one going up the seam and scores a TD. Now this was with the second team defense and offense. If you read my posts from camp on August 23 you’ll recall a moment when there was a break in the action and Quick was on the near sideline talking with Britt and one of the coaches I couldn’t recognized. He was visibly upset with something. I walked down to the fence to try and hear what was being said but I couldn’t make it out. Quick was on one knee at times then would get up and pace around Britt and the coach then back to the knee. It appeared that Britt and coach were trying to lighten things up with smiles, jokes of sorts and such. Quick never smiled. He knows the pressure is on.

In summary, Goff looked totally different than in the past. Keenum struggled at times as did Mannion. It was Goff’s team that day and he made the best of it. If you saw Coach Fishers presser after that practice you could tell he was very pleased with Goff. As you can tell, I’m all about the offense in this report. I felt we know what we have in our DB’s now that Gains is back. We know our front four are set, OH! By the way, Easley is a great addition to the D line. Expect great things from him. He is very quick off the ball. Linebackers will take some work, learning to play with each other but I’m not worried.

I cannot wait for Saturday against Denver and I want to see Goff start the game. I think you all will be pleasantly surprised with his improvement.


Take care my Rams Brothers!

Peter King: Rams fans might surprise the league

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/08/23/nfl-training-camp-tour-jacksonville-jaguars-peter-king-mailbag

Training Camp Conclusions
By Peter King

• FANS WHO MIGHT SURPRISE THE LEAGUE: Rams fans. As one Los Angeles vet told me after last Saturday’s win over the Chiefs, “We might have the kind of home field advantage the Seahawks have.” Too early to tell if the honeymoon will last, but a crowd helps a team’s defense the most, because the opposing offense has to struggle to hear itself over the din of the crowd. And Seattle will be in L.A. first, in Week 2, so we’ll see if preseason madness will carry over. But those were some crazy fans I saw Saturday night at the Coliseum.

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Rams deep at running back, even without Tre Mason

Alden Gonzalez ESPN Staff Writer

http://www.espn.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/30302/rams-deep-at-rb-even-without-tre-mason

IRVINE, Calif. -- Nearly four weeks into training camp, the Los Angeles Rams' most impressive department is their backfield. Perhaps that was predictable, given the presence of star running back Todd Gurley. But it's the personnel beyond Gurley that makes the collective group so formidable, which is surprising when you consider the absentee.

In the wake of Tre Mason's bizarre disappearance, Benny Cunningham and Malcolm Brown have stepped up. The two have combined to rush for 195 yards on 28 carries through the first two preseason games, comeback victories against the Dallas Cowboys and Kansas City Chiefs. That's nearly 7 yards per carry. The NFL leader in that department last year, Thomas Rawls of the Seattle Seahawks, averaged 5.6.

"It’s a good feeling to see the work everybody’s put in kind of pay off," Cunningham said. "We want to just continue to compete and try to contribute to the offense."

Aaron Green, all of whom joined the Rams as undrafted free agents, are the ones taking advantage.

Green amassed 64 yards and caught the winning touchdown in Week 1. He sat out Week 2, but has since returned to practice and will probably play in Week 3. Cunningham rushed four times for 38 yards in Week 1 and four times for 23 yards in Week 2. And Brown has led the Rams in rushing each of the first two games, going 66 yards on eight carries in Week 1 and 68 yards on 12 carries in Week 2.

Brown also caught the winning touchdown on Saturday, reaching across his body to haul in a 10-yard pass from rookie quarterback Jared Goff.

"From last year to this year is a complete difference in my head," said Brown, who played in only one game as a rookie in 2015. "Confidence was really my biggest thing. I had to trust in myself, I had to trust in the offensive line, I had to trust in what the coaches were telling me. Confidence can go a long way.”
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