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Injury Report this Week

DaveFan'51
RAMSinLA said:
Rams at Lions

CB Trumaine Johnson (ankle) won’t be in the lineup for the Rams. DT Michael Brockers (hip), DE William Hayes (ankle), WR Brian Quick (calf), DE Robert Quinn (shoulder) and G Cody Wichmann (ankle) are all questionable. Brockers, Hayes and Quinn all missed last week’s loss.

The Lions ruled out four regulars in TE Eric Ebron (ankle, knee), LB DeAndre Levy (quadricep, knee), DT Haloti Ngata (shoulder) and RB Theo Riddick(ankle). They put questionable tags on DE Ezekiel Ansah (ankle), WR Anquan Boldin (ankle), S Don Carey (ribs), DT A’Shawn Robinson (shoulder), G Laken Tomlinson (neck), G Larry Warford (hip) and RB Dwayne Washington(ankle).
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In his presser yesterday Fisher said Hayes-Brockers-Quinn and Wichman all practiced yesterday! But he didn't elaborate on their degree of practice, Limited/Full etc.!
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How is there not 32 guys capable of playing QB at a high level?

Mackeyser
I'm not saying the spread is "bad" for QBs, per se. What I would say is that it doesn't prepare QBs for the complexities of the Pro game for a number of reasons. Moreover, as we've seen for decades now, it is increasingly difficult to parse how a QB from a Spread Variant will have their physical skills and mental acuities transfer to the Pro game than ever.

Couple that with the pressures on HCs to have Rookies produce NOW and HCs typical reluctance to change for Rookies (although, those that have...have had success. I won't bother listing them. We all know them) and you have a "what does 'getting painted into a corner' look like in real life" scenario.

The college game and pro game are at cross purposes. Heck, the needs of the HC and the requirements of rookie QBs are at cross purposes at the moment.
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Press Conferences: Todd Gurley, Gregg Williams, Jeff Fisher

DaveFan'51
Merlin said:
Todd is definitely upset by his production but he is a team guy and is going to keep himself in check.

It is a great example of how offense takes 11 guys executing to do well. Get that OL and the skills guys to give him a crease here and there and the conversation is about long TD runs vice defenses stacking the box.

Right now our line is more proficient at pass pro. They just gotta get medieval up in there and give TG what he needs.
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I like the idea of our Team getting " Medievil" on Opponants!! Lets see them go to the Line and tell the guys in front of them ...
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Journey of Rams cornerback Troy Hill brings him back to Southland

BonifayRam
Rams43 said:
We should all probably be watching Hill's development very closely.

Not just in this game, but until TruJo returns.

'Cause if TruJo walks next year (a very real possibility), Troy Hill just might be one of our starting outside CB's in '17.

He looks like he belongs to me.

Now, in a perfect world, we keep TruJo and have a really, really strong CB room. Lol.
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Seems I have been watching Troy Hill's play since the first pre season game this season. I was happy from what I observed from Troy Hill thus far. Fisher has not drafted a DB since 2014 but he did draft four. Three remain here as starters in this 2016 defense. The 4th DB CB Bryant was released before the regular season.

Fisher has been trying to find a replacement for CB Bryant & the IR Brian Randolph ever since. Fisher has been looking over two SS types for over a month now in Isaiah Johnson & Marqui Christian. Appears that Christian has the upper hand now & will be the 4th safety this Sunday.

Very similar to what he did late last season with Troy Hill & Eric Patterson. IMO Fisher & Williams got real lucky with DB Troy Hill discovery. With Trumaine Johnson out Fisher has another newby signed in CB Dwayne Gratz who was cut by the Jags. Our corners Sunday will be Gaines, Troy Hill, Gratz & Nickle back Joyner.

By the 4th quarter of the Bills game Fisher had 3 UDFA's & 1 WWC starting on the field in this defense. Troy Hill was one of them. As some of us knew ...that's what happens when you trade away all those high draft selections in your 2016 & 2017 drafts.
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Reserve DL'ers Dominique Easley & Ethan Westbrooks

BonifayRam
Roman Snow said:
In fairness, aside from the first two drives, where they were gashed, and that 24 yard run late on a short field, after the blown fake punt, the defense shut Buffalo down big time.

Once that defense got its bearings it played well. I agree with sentiments about Thomas. He hasn't impressed me. Although, maybe someone can help me out: did he do better as the game wore on? Or was that mostly Easley?
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Easley had the much better game but Thomas also seemed to play better in the 2nd half too. Easley was seen on the field @ the Aaron Donald position when AD was getting DE action or when he was getting a rest. There were a few plays when both were side by side inside & it was 3 rd & long situations. DE & AD are a handful side by side inside on passing downs.

Sims also saw some action inside too & ES just performs better inside than on the edge IMO. The thing with ES is he is well over 6-6 with very long arms he is hard to throw over if he gets his big mitts up something he is capable of doing more often but has not cashed in on as of yet.

Cam Thomas is a WWC nothing more. Early before the draft I was hoping that the Org would have gone late in the draft for a NT like Vincent Valentine late 2nd day selection but they traded away that pick for Goff. then I was in the chat banging the drum for NT DJ Reader but they went WR & TE instead. You can go back early this year where I posted many times my concerns over an injury to Brockers & what it would do to this Gregg Williams defense. My nightmare was in full glory in the first half of last weeks game.

Rams likely to endure that short-handed feeling again against Lions
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-defense-lions-20161014-snap-story.html

Brockers, Quinn & Hayes stood on the sideline last Sunday helpless. The linemen comprise three-fourths of the Rams’ starting defensive front. But injuries prevented them from aiding teammates trying to stop Buffalo Bills running back LeSean McCoy. The Rams are accustomed to missing a player or two from a position group because of injuries. Not three.

“The past couple years, it’s been one guy out for a little bit of time,” Brockers said Friday, adding, “It wasn’t a good feeling. But deep in the back of your mind you know it was a good decision.”

The trio's status for Sunday's game at Detroit is uncertain. Brockers, Hayes and Quinn were limited Friday and are listed as questionable. Their availability won’t be determined until after warm-ups at Ford Field, the first stop on a 10-day trip that concludes with an Oct. 23 game against the New York Giants outside London.

Last month, Brockers signed a three-year extension worth about $33 million, according to spotrac.com. He is nursing a hip injury suffered during practice. The 6-foot-5, 326-pound tackle tested his condition on the field before warmups last Sunday but was not able to play. He is “really hopeful” that he will be available against the Lions, he said. “I feel good,” he said. “And as long as I can protect myself out there I think I’ll be able to go.”

Hayes suffered an ankle injury at Tampa Bay on Sept. 25 and sat out against Arizona and Buffalo. He said his goal was to return sometime between Sunday and the bye week that follows the team’s return from London “I doubt if I go Sunday,” he said, “but next Sunday looks really good.” Hayes sustained the injury during the first half of the Rams’ 37-32 victory over the Buccaneers. He went to the locker room for treatment but returned after Eugene Sims was ejected. Hayes said coming back into the game did not exacerbate the injury.“I didn’t do anything to aggravate it,” he said. “The damage had kind of already been done. “I felt I could go out and battle with my guys. That’s what I get paid to do.”

Quinn is nursing a shoulder injury suffered against Arizona. Coach Jeff Fisher said Brockers, Hayes and Quinn still had time to heal before the game against the Lions. “They’ve got, what, 48 hours, 46 hours or something like that, from now,” Fisher said after practice. “Each passing day, they’re getting better. Obviously we need them, especially against this group.”

The Lions feature quarterback Matthew Stafford and receiver Marvin Jones, a formidable combination that the Rams hope to slow down by creating pressure with their pass rush. Stafford is completing 68% of his passes, 10 for touchdowns, with four interceptions. “He’s been making throws that not very many quarterbacks can make, with his mobility, his arm strength,” Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. “But he understands, you can see it, that he’s taking the next step as a quarterback being the pseudo-offensive coordinator, too.”

Last week, the Rams struggled at times to contain Buffalo quarterback Tyrod Taylor and could not slow McCoy during the first half of a 30-19 defeat at the Coliseum. Ends Ethan Westbrooks and Eugene Sims played in place of Hayes and Quinn, and tackles Cam Thomas and Dominique Easley rotated in place of Brockers.“They played pretty solid,” Williams said of the line. “It was a few guys behind the ball, behind the defensive line,” that must improve.

Against the Lions, the Rams’ secondary will be without Trumaine Johnson. The franchise cornerback suffered an ankle injury against Buffalo and could be sidelined several weeks. Troy Hill will start in his place opposite cornerback E.J. Gaines.
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Hurray, dozens of India call scammers arrested

Elmgrovegnome
I get the "lower the interest rate on your credit card" call frequently. Strange since I only have one besides my debit card and I don't ever use it. I never call back.

My poor mom clicks on everything she gets in her email. She has had 5 ransom viruses. Three were fakes that I could bypass. Two had to go to the computer repair service, and the first one she sent the $99.00 to the site that gave her the virus. It took the guy three hours to get it off of her computer. I told her if she is going to pay to have it removed, pay a legitimate business, not the scammers.
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Rams Film Room Review (TST)

Ellard80
fearsomefour said:
If, as the writer said, the hole is designed to be between Saffold an Barnes the Saffold would do what he did, shield and block away from the hole. The defender just ran away from Saffold to the runner. The hole was there, they did their job blocking and Gurley blew the play. I understand Gurley is sacrosanct to some and cannot be critiqued but it is clear on this play. He passed up a nice hole in lue of trying to bounce for a big gain. Amatuerish run. Let's not forget Saint Todd taking a scoring opportunity away with one of two fumbles inside Buffalo territory. The running game has sucked. Mostly O line issues but things are usually not that simple. This play illustrates a RB either ignoring the play design or not seeing a big hole right in front of him. Either way that is a big issue if this is happening more than we realize.
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I think some people haven't been watching the same games I have. I completely agree with this post.

Gurley has been just as bad as the offensive line has been.

In every game I've watched he has had horrible vision and made the wrong cut many times.

The offensive line has been garbage at times as well- but if you go and look at the film with open eyes you will see that Gurley is playing poorly.

He has some good moments where his talent shines, and others where the line just blows it for him.

But just as many times he is not seeing the field and being impatient. He needs to get his shit together.
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GDT: Broncos @ Chargers

LACHAMP46
12intheBox said:
Bosa is pretty good, huh?
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Shoulda saw what Vic Beasley did to the Broncos.....3 1/2 sacks....2 FF...monster game...they must have TERRIBLE TACKLES!!!

Legatron4 said:
Siemien isn't good.
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7th round pick....N.Western....relatively speaking...he's ok...50 attempts....I bet he's getting quality reps now...not from the bench either....but in game...lets see what he looks like weeks 12-16...
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SCNG Podcast: With the Rams at a crossroads, is Case Keenum's job in jeopardy?

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After a tough loss at home, the Rams head on the road for a crucial two-game stretch, and SCNG writers Ryan Kartje and Jack Wang discuss whether those two games might be Case Keenum's last as a starter. They also wonder how the Rams secondary will hold up against a resurgent Matt Stafford, and Ryan bemoans growing up as a Lions fan.

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NFL Quarterbacks are scarce; writers and reporters are plentiful. Based on that fact, which do you think is more valuable?

Answer: It's a trick question. The correct answer was not offered as an option. Fans are the most valuable because they indirectly pay for quartebacks, writers, and reporters.
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LesBaker said:
Yup it happens a lot.

The real problem I have with the vids is that he has time, in both clips they were only rushing 3. I know that means a lot of bodies in the secondary but why rush the ball out. Someone may shake free.

IMO this is him following orders, protect the ball as much as possible and especially in the red zone.
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Could be following orders. I don't think it's fair for any of us to rain down on Keenum unless we know what the situation is. Could be his own fault, could be what he sees in pre-snap, could be what he sees immediately post-snap, could be the play design, could be called in, could be a discussion in the huddle, could be anything. But you're right. Happens to all of them. Now, all that said, I'm SURE they're discussing this in meetings and film review, and they're pointing to what could have been. Someone's gonna own these.
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Can't seem to shake this feeling of resignation...

Elmgrovegnome
Rams43 said:
I've cut back on my posting lately because nobody wants to be around a Mr Gloom and Doom. Including me.

But I wanna get this off my chest in the hopes I might feel better.

So here goes...

Mr Mediocre remains as our HC and that will continue for the rest of the '16 season.

Keenum has managed 3 wins, each by 3 and 4 point margins when accompanied by terrific D and ST play. Otherwise, he's 0-2. This condition is not likely to improve.

Our #1 overall QB has yet to take an NFL snap. This is despite the success enjoyed by several other rookie QB's around the league AND Keenum's underwhelming performance so far. Let that soak in for a minute. We gave up 6 premium picks for Goff over 2 drafts and have yet to get a single snap as a return on investment through 5 games. Gulp...

What does that say about Fisher's judgement in picking his QB? Or about his staff's ability to develop his QB? Either way, it's kinda scary.

Our "elite" RB is struggling. At least he sure looked elite LAST year. Btw, anybody notice how many of Fisher's RB's have a good 1st year than a big drop off in their 2nd year? Look it up.

Don't know about you, but I sure expected bigger things from our OL this year. It's not as if they've been devastated with injuries, either. So, what gives?

Can we please utilize our TE's in this O a bit more? Kendricks can be a weapon, especially against stacked boxes. Is Higbee in witness protection? Boggles my mind how slowly he's developing. From "mini Gronk" in preseason to MIA once the season starts? C'mon...

Britt and Quick (to my great surprise, btw) have impressed, but is anybody happy with our $42 million Tavon as an O weapon? I'm not. Saw it coming, too. Fisher continues to try to force a square peg into a round hole with Tavon. Results speak for themselves, at least so far.

Is there any other team in the league that would continue to struggle facing 8-9 man boxes? Take what the D gives you, dammit! A steady dose of quick passes until either we're up by 21 points OR their D compensates. Geez...

No complaints with our D. Just frustration with the injuries to key starters.

ST's have been outstanding. Wouldn't trade our P or PK for anybody in the league. Coverages have been good, too. Fisher did get carried away with that fake punt, though. The final back-breaker, IMO.

Here's the thing that's really got me kinda down...

I'm afraid that nothing's gonna significantly improve this year. Offensive ineptitude seems to be baked into Fisher's DNA. Which means another year with some good to great talent will have been wasted.

Hope I'm wrong. I really do. But I'm just out of faith in Fisher these days.
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Your feeling of resignation right about game 5 is due to having given up hope by the same game for the last decade. Things like that become engrained in us.
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