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WK5 Post Game (5-0) • We'll Take It • STL (10), GB (24)
Seattle is in huge trouble.
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HUGE.
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+ defense
- offense
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Rams got a garbage time 69 yards and we still held Foles to 142 yards.
Our pass defense is Super Bowl capable.
Our offense needs a R-E-L-A-X resurgence.
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We're living in a world where the defense is better than the offense
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For now. Once we stop playing great fronts, our offense will lol.
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Pretty much every ball and call went against us this game, but we still pulled it out. That's a good sign.
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Evened out with Foles' horrendous effort.
But yeah, still a sad-looking win (if there's such a thing in this league), but there's also something unusually gratifying about watching our defense just keep opposing QBs on the ropes.
Seriously, these last four weeks have been so much fun
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Immoral victory
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+ Monty growing
+ Defense (couple big plays given but they recovered admirably)
+ Winning by 14 when the O sucks
- Rodgers out of his mind (not in a good way)
- No deep game at all
- Injuries
- Ingrown toenail after biting it off
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Nick Foles: 11-30, 141 Yards (4.7 YPA), 1 TD, 4 INTs, 23.8 Rating (3 sacks-28 yards)
Kept Gurley at 5 yards per which is a win. Take away the 55 yard run and he's at 3.6 yards per (I know you can't "do" this but I just did because it's a better reflection of our run defense if you cared to watch the game).
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jrry32 - You have to be kidding me.
Your pass defense is definitely good but Foles was god awful today. If we had a good/great QB on our side today, there were 3 or 4 TD passes that could have been completed.(Britt deep, Quick in the end-zone, Kendricks in the end-zone, and possibly a TD on that last drive)
But you all played a role in that by tearing apart our OL.
Good luck moving forward.
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Good luck and tear that division of yours apart please
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How spoiled are we? 14 point win, which we never trailed in, and we are acting like we lost.
Good on the defense. Quite a bit of pressure, and a lot of turnovers.
The offense was sluggish, but did enough to win. We need Davante Adams to come back healthy, and the offseason improvement that was reported sure better be real. I don't think he is a deep threat, but he may be the best at that, that we have. I hate being a broken record, but this team desperately needs someone that defenses at least think can be a threat deep. It does make you wonder how we can continue to win if the offense continues to play the way it has the last two outings.
It would be nice to have some luck with the injuries sustained today.
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yeah it took Gurley 30 tries to break one, he was bottled up throughout. More than happy w/ the entire defense today. And really, don't be surprised to see Gurley being talked about as a top 3 guy in the league by the end of the year. He looked like the best back we've face so far IMO.
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And he's just getting his legs under him again and used to the scheme. I don't doubt he'll be a top 5 back by the end of the year for a minute.
They just have a way of getting off the field when it matters recently. Love it!
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- For the 2nd straight week, the defense won the game. When have we been able to say that with this team?
- Pass rush is ridiculous. Foles was completely beat up in this game and took a ton of gnarly shots
- Run defense got real leaky in the 2nd half but really it was that lone long run by Gurley that hurt them. Loss of Raji really showed here. Need him back. Gurley is a helluva back though. He's the real deal
- Offense was brutal. Rams defense is legit and that played a role but it's not good that guys are struggling to get open. They really need Adams back because teams are just focusing on taking Cobb away and Jones, while he's been good thsi season, isn't a blazer and isn't going to beat guys deep
- Keep getting banged up. Lost what? 4 players today? Lang, Raji, Perry, and Hayward....hope none of these are serious. One more week until a much needed BYE for these guys
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Ugly win, but it's a win. The penalties and injuries are getting out of hand, though.
Gurley got his today. That guy has impressive vision and it's no wonder they wanted to wait for him to get fully healthy before unleashing him two weeks ago.
Pass rush came with it again today. Foles didn't look comfortable at all, and thankfully, they forced multiple interceptions.
Jordy's injury is starting to hit home, now that Rodgers doesn't have anyone that can work the sidelines or go deep as well as he can, and that's essentially what caused Rodgers' two interceptions -- there's nobody getting open down the field, and they knew that he was going to try to pick them apart short, and they were able to get their hand on the first and jump the second.
Really hope Lang doesn't miss extended time. I wonder why Walker was the first off the bench and not Barclay? Can Barclay still play inside? I will give credit to the O-line for not letting that Rams' D-line run roughshod on Rodgers. They got enough pressure to disrupt the pocket at times, but it wasn't too dire.
Secondary was outstanding, though. Especially Shields with a number of touchdown-saving breakups.
But still...this is the kind of game that the 2011-2014 Packers lose. Shows us just how resilient this year's group is.
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+1 jrry
You guys have a lot of good pieces to your team, a few glaring holes but a couple good drafts you guys could be in serious contention. Not sold on Foles, he looked like garbage! I am in love with Gurley, though. Dude is just a natural.
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jrry32 - Every turnover is reviewed (that was a clean INT). Foles threw an INT IN THE RED-ZONE that was also tipped TWICE. Montgomery scored on a blown coverage. James Jones scored when our CB fell down.
Not to mention Matthews spearing Foles with his helmet on a hit which wasn't called. Shields interfering with Quick in the end-zone which wasn't called (although that made up for the weak Cook pass interference call).
Oh and that converted 3rd down on the tipped ball would have been converted on the illegal contact call anyways.
I don't want to hear it. Balls bounced both ways. Calls went both ways. It was a pretty even match-up. Packers just made the important plays that counted and had less negative plays.
It was a good game. It's just unfortunate that both teams played sloppily on offense.
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The STL tip still had a penalty on GB if I recall, the 2nd INT was reviewed (all turnovers all reviewed)...other stuff is just minor...we had a potentail endzone interference on the Quick ball go uncalled. I like'd the no call but it still is normally called.
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Building from inside-out. Gotta like it. Just a piece or two away from being legitimate going forward (like he said). Get a legitimate alpha WR and upgrade QB (if possible) and...yeah.
Johnson-Jenkins make up a nice secondary.
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It's honestly gonna come down to the QB. Rams D is legit, Gurley is legit, nice pieces at TE. They just need better play from the QB.
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How long can you conceivably keep that DL together? Obviously that's a massive component of your team's identity as it stands and your potential status as a SB contender relies heavily on keeping that group together. I don't want to say your window is small but it will be if Foles doesn't continue to get better. I just haven't seen it in however many years he's been a starter. Maybe Fisher will continue to develop him but he doesn't pass the eye-test.
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Defensive battle for sure. Here in GB we are so used to winning by the offense, we tend to overreact when our offense looks bad. Thing is, teams get hyped up to play ARodg. And he's limitres by his receivers. You can see the inexperience and how Cobb really benefits from Jordy/Davante. Telling that we still didn't see Abby in offensive snaps.
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I like good discussion. Jrry's been the most balanced poster we've seen all season IMO.
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jrry32 - Thank you.
(Answering the previous poster) Y'all won. I want to talk about the game and the Rams forum is a pit of anger right now. If y'all had lost, I would have made a good game post then left you alone. Figured y'all have to be in a cheery mood if you won.
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Pretty much. They have the pieces in place....they just don't have that premiere QB to elevate them into legit SB contenders
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https://www.packerforum.com/threads/studs-and-duds-ram-game.62881/
Studs and duds Ram game
Stud:
JJ - minus Rodgers he's the offensive MVP through 5 games
Montgomery
Clay - i think he's playing like its 2010 and its great
Daniels
Rollins
Shields
Duds:
Injury bug
A. Rodgers - He didn't play awful but by HIS STANDARDs he was a dud
O-line - Run game was really bad against a great d-line
R. Rodgers - had some good plays, but really had made some huge mistakes on a drive that cost the packers 3 points
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Studs: Not sure if they were studs but I liked the way Guion, Peppers & D. Jones made plays. Crosby was clearly the superior kicker today too.
Duds: Bakh. Not Newhouse bad but clearly the weak point on the line. Lacy had nothing going for him all game against an admittedly tough defense.
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Studs: Packers "D" in spite of giving up a few (very few) big plays D was solid and improving every week
J Jones (let's try not to release him any time soon)
Clay (beast) Matthews
Duds:Bad penalties
Running game
Mike McCarthy, for his bad challenge of a 1st down, over a questionable int
For the Rams fan with the End Zone sign (leap Here)
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Clay continues to be a monster. He may be the best defensive player in the league right now. He continually beat double teams today to get pressure.
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Dud: Two bad officiating calls and NFL rules.
Rodgers second pick - There's no way that an INT. It clearly moved in his hands after hitting the ground.
J Jones TD - How does the official standing one foot away call him down? He took his time making the call too. If you're not sure, make the call that will be reviewed automatically.
The rule that's bad is plays are only reviewed automatically if it was originally called a TD or turnover. Any play involving a possible TD or turnover should be up for automatic review.
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Studs:
Jones
Montgomery
Matthews
Guion
Rollins
Duds:
A. Rodgers
Lacy
O-line run blocking.
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Another Dud IMO: Jeff Janis on his screw up on the punt team. Masthay actually punted the ball nearly perfectly - it looked to me like the ball may have come to rest inside the 5 yard line by itself. Janis' first contact with the ball was to push it toward the EZ - that's exactly the wrong instinct. In that situation tap the ball lightly towards the field before rolling into the EZ. Not a huge deal but I would have liked to see the D against the Rams' O at their 2-yard line (or so).
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Studs: Rollins, pass rush
Duds: non-existent red zone offense, injuries, injuries, injuries
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Studs: Quint, HaHa, Clay
Duds: Richard, Aaron, Eddie
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Studs-Rollins, he had a great play, gave a huge play to give them a little life at the end, and then slammed it shut with the pick at the end. Great game by the young guy.
Clay for obvious reasons. Pretty much the entire Dline and LB group, they all made plays at some point today.
Duds, Rodgers, Rodgers and Janis.
WK5 Post Game (5-0) • We'll Take It • STL (10), GB (24)
Seattle is in huge trouble.
---------
HUGE.
--------
+ defense
- offense
---------
Rams got a garbage time 69 yards and we still held Foles to 142 yards.
Our pass defense is Super Bowl capable.
Our offense needs a R-E-L-A-X resurgence.
--------
We're living in a world where the defense is better than the offense
--------
For now. Once we stop playing great fronts, our offense will lol.
--------
Pretty much every ball and call went against us this game, but we still pulled it out. That's a good sign.
--------
Evened out with Foles' horrendous effort.
But yeah, still a sad-looking win (if there's such a thing in this league), but there's also something unusually gratifying about watching our defense just keep opposing QBs on the ropes.
Seriously, these last four weeks have been so much fun
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Immoral victory
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+ Monty growing
+ Defense (couple big plays given but they recovered admirably)
+ Winning by 14 when the O sucks
- Rodgers out of his mind (not in a good way)
- No deep game at all
- Injuries
- Ingrown toenail after biting it off
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Nick Foles: 11-30, 141 Yards (4.7 YPA), 1 TD, 4 INTs, 23.8 Rating (3 sacks-28 yards)
Kept Gurley at 5 yards per which is a win. Take away the 55 yard run and he's at 3.6 yards per (I know you can't "do" this but I just did because it's a better reflection of our run defense if you cared to watch the game).
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jrry32 - You have to be kidding me.
But you all played a role in that by tearing apart our OL.
Good luck moving forward.
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Good luck and tear that division of yours apart please
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How spoiled are we? 14 point win, which we never trailed in, and we are acting like we lost.
Good on the defense. Quite a bit of pressure, and a lot of turnovers.
The offense was sluggish, but did enough to win. We need Davante Adams to come back healthy, and the offseason improvement that was reported sure better be real. I don't think he is a deep threat, but he may be the best at that, that we have. I hate being a broken record, but this team desperately needs someone that defenses at least think can be a threat deep. It does make you wonder how we can continue to win if the offense continues to play the way it has the last two outings.
It would be nice to have some luck with the injuries sustained today.
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yeah it took Gurley 30 tries to break one, he was bottled up throughout. More than happy w/ the entire defense today. And really, don't be surprised to see Gurley being talked about as a top 3 guy in the league by the end of the year. He looked like the best back we've face so far IMO.
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And he's just getting his legs under him again and used to the scheme. I don't doubt he'll be a top 5 back by the end of the year for a minute.
They just have a way of getting off the field when it matters recently. Love it!
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- For the 2nd straight week, the defense won the game. When have we been able to say that with this team?
- Pass rush is ridiculous. Foles was completely beat up in this game and took a ton of gnarly shots
- Run defense got real leaky in the 2nd half but really it was that lone long run by Gurley that hurt them. Loss of Raji really showed here. Need him back. Gurley is a helluva back though. He's the real deal
- Offense was brutal. Rams defense is legit and that played a role but it's not good that guys are struggling to get open. They really need Adams back because teams are just focusing on taking Cobb away and Jones, while he's been good thsi season, isn't a blazer and isn't going to beat guys deep
- Keep getting banged up. Lost what? 4 players today? Lang, Raji, Perry, and Hayward....hope none of these are serious. One more week until a much needed BYE for these guys
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Ugly win, but it's a win. The penalties and injuries are getting out of hand, though.
Gurley got his today. That guy has impressive vision and it's no wonder they wanted to wait for him to get fully healthy before unleashing him two weeks ago.
Pass rush came with it again today. Foles didn't look comfortable at all, and thankfully, they forced multiple interceptions.
Jordy's injury is starting to hit home, now that Rodgers doesn't have anyone that can work the sidelines or go deep as well as he can, and that's essentially what caused Rodgers' two interceptions -- there's nobody getting open down the field, and they knew that he was going to try to pick them apart short, and they were able to get their hand on the first and jump the second.
Really hope Lang doesn't miss extended time. I wonder why Walker was the first off the bench and not Barclay? Can Barclay still play inside? I will give credit to the O-line for not letting that Rams' D-line run roughshod on Rodgers. They got enough pressure to disrupt the pocket at times, but it wasn't too dire.
Secondary was outstanding, though. Especially Shields with a number of touchdown-saving breakups.
But still...this is the kind of game that the 2011-2014 Packers lose. Shows us just how resilient this year's group is.
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+1 jrry
You guys have a lot of good pieces to your team, a few glaring holes but a couple good drafts you guys could be in serious contention. Not sold on Foles, he looked like garbage! I am in love with Gurley, though. Dude is just a natural.
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jrry32 - Every turnover is reviewed (that was a clean INT). Foles threw an INT IN THE RED-ZONE that was also tipped TWICE. Montgomery scored on a blown coverage. James Jones scored when our CB fell down.
Not to mention Matthews spearing Foles with his helmet on a hit which wasn't called. Shields interfering with Quick in the end-zone which wasn't called (although that made up for the weak Cook pass interference call).
Oh and that converted 3rd down on the tipped ball would have been converted on the illegal contact call anyways.
I don't want to hear it. Balls bounced both ways. Calls went both ways. It was a pretty even match-up. Packers just made the important plays that counted and had less negative plays.
It was a good game. It's just unfortunate that both teams played sloppily on offense.
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The STL tip still had a penalty on GB if I recall, the 2nd INT was reviewed (all turnovers all reviewed)...other stuff is just minor...we had a potentail endzone interference on the Quick ball go uncalled. I like'd the no call but it still is normally called.
-------
Building from inside-out. Gotta like it. Just a piece or two away from being legitimate going forward (like he said). Get a legitimate alpha WR and upgrade QB (if possible) and...yeah.
Johnson-Jenkins make up a nice secondary.
-------
It's honestly gonna come down to the QB. Rams D is legit, Gurley is legit, nice pieces at TE. They just need better play from the QB.
-------
How long can you conceivably keep that DL together? Obviously that's a massive component of your team's identity as it stands and your potential status as a SB contender relies heavily on keeping that group together. I don't want to say your window is small but it will be if Foles doesn't continue to get better. I just haven't seen it in however many years he's been a starter. Maybe Fisher will continue to develop him but he doesn't pass the eye-test.
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Defensive battle for sure. Here in GB we are so used to winning by the offense, we tend to overreact when our offense looks bad. Thing is, teams get hyped up to play ARodg. And he's limitres by his receivers. You can see the inexperience and how Cobb really benefits from Jordy/Davante. Telling that we still didn't see Abby in offensive snaps.
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I like good discussion. Jrry's been the most balanced poster we've seen all season IMO.
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jrry32 - Thank you.
(Answering the previous poster) Y'all won. I want to talk about the game and the Rams forum is a pit of anger right now. If y'all had lost, I would have made a good game post then left you alone. Figured y'all have to be in a cheery mood if you won.
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Pretty much. They have the pieces in place....they just don't have that premiere QB to elevate them into legit SB contenders
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https://www.packerforum.com/threads/studs-and-duds-ram-game.62881/
Studs and duds Ram game
Stud:
JJ - minus Rodgers he's the offensive MVP through 5 games
Montgomery
Clay - i think he's playing like its 2010 and its great
Daniels
Rollins
Shields
Duds:
Injury bug
A. Rodgers - He didn't play awful but by HIS STANDARDs he was a dud
O-line - Run game was really bad against a great d-line
R. Rodgers - had some good plays, but really had made some huge mistakes on a drive that cost the packers 3 points
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Studs: Not sure if they were studs but I liked the way Guion, Peppers & D. Jones made plays. Crosby was clearly the superior kicker today too.
Duds: Bakh. Not Newhouse bad but clearly the weak point on the line. Lacy had nothing going for him all game against an admittedly tough defense.
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Studs: Packers "D" in spite of giving up a few (very few) big plays D was solid and improving every week
J Jones (let's try not to release him any time soon)
Clay (beast) Matthews
Duds:Bad penalties
Running game
Mike McCarthy, for his bad challenge of a 1st down, over a questionable int
For the Rams fan with the End Zone sign (leap Here)
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Clay continues to be a monster. He may be the best defensive player in the league right now. He continually beat double teams today to get pressure.
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Dud: Two bad officiating calls and NFL rules.
Rodgers second pick - There's no way that an INT. It clearly moved in his hands after hitting the ground.
J Jones TD - How does the official standing one foot away call him down? He took his time making the call too. If you're not sure, make the call that will be reviewed automatically.
The rule that's bad is plays are only reviewed automatically if it was originally called a TD or turnover. Any play involving a possible TD or turnover should be up for automatic review.
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Studs:
Jones
Montgomery
Matthews
Guion
Rollins
Duds:
A. Rodgers
Lacy
O-line run blocking.
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Another Dud IMO: Jeff Janis on his screw up on the punt team. Masthay actually punted the ball nearly perfectly - it looked to me like the ball may have come to rest inside the 5 yard line by itself. Janis' first contact with the ball was to push it toward the EZ - that's exactly the wrong instinct. In that situation tap the ball lightly towards the field before rolling into the EZ. Not a huge deal but I would have liked to see the D against the Rams' O at their 2-yard line (or so).
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Studs: Rollins, pass rush
Duds: non-existent red zone offense, injuries, injuries, injuries
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Studs: Quint, HaHa, Clay
Duds: Richard, Aaron, Eddie
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Studs-Rollins, he had a great play, gave a huge play to give them a little life at the end, and then slammed it shut with the pick at the end. Great game by the young guy.
Clay for obvious reasons. Pretty much the entire Dline and LB group, they all made plays at some point today.
Duds, Rodgers, Rodgers and Janis.
