The Refs Won... Fake As Fuck

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XXXIVwin

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one the false start Lions thought they were shorted on ... it appears it may have been the exact right call. I thought Rams got away with one there.


View: https://x.com/footballzebras/status/1746725947158430024?s=20



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VERY subtle there. I watched it like six times before I could see it. Finally had to focus on the left hand of the LT #68.

If suddenly straightening the fingers like that is a false start, then it's the correct call. Not sure that's what drew the D over the line though.
 

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Hutch's arm is in rip position ... can't be a hold per rule

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VERY subtle there. I watched it like six times before I could see it. Finally had to focus on the left hand of the LT #68.

If suddenly straightening the fingers like that is a false start, then it's the correct call. Not sure that's what drew the D over the line though.
Cannot remember every seeing called. That Football Zerbras follow it... knows points of emphasis, so I trust him
 

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We got away with a couple of non-calls, especially the late hit by Desjuan Johnson when the play was already dead and a hold by Alaric Jackson, but the vast majority of dubious decisions went the Lions' way.

Yes, we should have done better in the red zone. Yes, it would have been nice if the defence had turned up before half time. But ultimately we were robbed by the zebras- there are no two ways about it.
 

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Goff will not be winning a SB for the Lions for the exact reason why we traded him. Stafford was the better, tougher, cooler QB last night. At one point he had a near perfect 154 rating and everyone saw how he was ready to beat his former team. Goff is going to look more like the Goff we know during the postseason with his mistakes. Lions aren't the same road team.

The non-calls on Lions were terrible. I hate the end zone fades. Should've scored at least 1 TD in all those attempts. Lion fans cheering Stafford injury and Lion DB cheering Higbee hit were disgusting.

On Ram player reactions Stafford scolded that DB for cheering. Puka ran off the field didn't see any handshakes, lot of Ram staff and players congratulated Goff. Didn't see McVay hug him, probably did, though he looked upset postgame when reporters asked him about the Puka non-call. Told them "What do you think?"
 

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This play was the drive after the 15 yard late hit on Goff the series before which was much less worse. I am OK that both are called, but when this was not called, it was clear to me that at a minimum Detroit was getting home field bias from the Refs. On both calls, the same ref who is in excellent position to see exactly what is happening. It was clear that the Rams would not get the calls.
The media has also learned that they have to be excellent at not calling out the refs. Frustrating to hear, "watch his head hit the ground". Stafford was clocked in the head by McNeil's shoulder and the a little by his helmet. Although Stafford's head hit the ground it was a much smaller impact than the late hit. To add insult to injury, Stafford was then stepped on.
 

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Not watching the rest of the playoffs. The NFFFFL can kiss my pitootie. This is a crime.
 

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I don't know.

We made the Super Bowl a few years back on one of the most egregious, non-called pass-interference plays of all time. Either its a conspiracy or the refs are bunch of goofs (like you and me) trying their best in an impossible situation - ie, fairly officiating a fast moving game.

The refs are just a random element of chance that is out of our control, like dice in a board game. If McVay converts just one of the field goals into a touchdown, the Rams win. There's where the fault is in my very humble opinion. Your mileage may vary....
 

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Bad calls both ways. Not the reason we lost. Defense/only 7 rushes in first half and wasted TO’s in second was the difference. Great season!
No, but the Rams did enough in the second half to win that game and it was only prevented by the refs.
I don't know.

We made the Super Bowl a few years back on one of the most egregious, non-called pass-interference plays of all time. Either its a conspiracy or the refs are bunch of goofs (like you and me) trying their best in an impossible situation - ie, fairly officiating a fast moving game.

The refs are just a random element of chance that is out of our control, like dice in a board game. If McVay converts just one of the field goals into a touchdown, the Rams win. There's where the fault is in my very humble opinion. Your mileage may vary....
That egregious non call in the Saints game was one of many missed calls in that game. On that drive alone there were a few missed calls against the Saints. So, I don’t really see that as the same thing.
 

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One not mentioned:

The blindside block on special teams didn’t look like a blindside block to me.
I got up for something at that point, I'd love to see a replay of that play.
It seems like we like to blame the plays we didn't make early in the game for the loss, when , to me, everything was already accounted for...good or bad. THIS no-call changed the outcome. Prtiod.


View: https://x.com/CoachDanCasey/status/1746742495243813242?s=20

I 100% understand not everything is going to be called and there are going to be non calls and bad calls every game.

But there are some obvious calls every game against or for us that should be called and that Stafford hit where he came off injured, Higbee play, and this Puka play are three that really stand out for me "wtf?" Just obvious asf, and if the league supposedly wants to protect players.

Those two were just obvious crazy plays that I have no clue how nothing was called.
 
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Thanks @Selassie I for having the courage to make this thread. It was my thought to start a thread "Is the NFL fixed." But this works just fine. Going into last nights game as always I wanted a Ram win. But I knew there was no way we were coming out out Detroit with the W. The story line was to good. All the talking heads, 30 years since a playoff win, Detroit deserves it,the Lion fans deserve it. Focus on 80 some year old fan who has been to every game the last 30 years. The Goff, Stafford deal. Rams bad Lions good. In the real world the Lions deserved nothing. Nor did the Rams. But the fix was in from the start. Is the NFL fixed IMHO yes I have believed this for several years. Follow the hot story line going into the playoffs and that's your winner. As always follow the money.
 

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The worst part about the Stafford roughing no call was the soft roughing they called for Goff in the first half.

Pathetic
This was the 1st thing that came to my mind, when Stafford got pummeled and stepped on by 2 guys.
 

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This play was the drive after the 15 yard late hit on Goff the series before which was much less worse. I am OK that both are called, but when this was not called, it was clear to me that at a minimum Detroit was getting home field bias from the Refs.
That is my only problem. If the hit on Stafford is not and the one of Goff was then it's not consistent.

I don't know about home-field advantage but not blaming refs for loss but there were more calls/non-calls that favored Lions ...
 

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I will play along for visceral purposes. Let's say you were to try and influence outcomes as is the point behind the thread. In this situation I will agree that by having refs who are targeted for incompetence it helps divert the attention from the real issue which is they are influencing outcomes. If you intentionally leave refs under scrutiny by not employing them full time and massaging rules so that they cannot possibly be enforced consistently due to vague interpretations and the idea that humans view and interpret uniquely you use misdirection to cover a much more nefarious intent.