Should Kupp be running and cutting and stuff....?

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... so much, so early on?
It worries me.

Last season I immediately said they rushed him back into action way too soon, and then his knee tore. Out for season.

I know some of you will be angry with me for even saying so but I think Cooper Kupp should take things slower. We really really really need him all season.
 

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Funny you mention that, because when I saw that first vid they put up of him running a route I couldn't believe how smooth and explosive he was out of the cut. That was my first thought, anyway, followed by a sudden sense of fear of him suffering a setback.

I'm definitely with you on that, but then again going careful with guys doesn't seem to help either. Not to mention current Rams trainers seem to be on a different level from everyone else.
 

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ACL tears aren’t what they use to be. He’s totally fine in a controlled situation for now
 

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I'm guessing he's getting better advice from the Rams medical and training staff than he will from anybody on here.
 

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It also depends on the person. Some people heal quick and hes a player he probably rehabbed like a mad man. Hes also young and that helps recovery.
 

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I was at camp day one. Kupp was running routes in the end zone area real close to us. He was digging hard into the turf on his cuts, putting a hell of a lot of strain on the knees. I was thinking, at the time, that was great to see, but yeah, maybe he's going a tad to hard coming off surgery? I don't know as I'm no expert on knee surgery.
 

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... so much, so early on?
It worries me.

Last season I immediately said they rushed him back into action way too soon, and then his knee tore. Out for season.

I know some of you will be angry with me for even saying so but I think Cooper Kupp should take things slower. We really really really need him all season.

I agree with you about last year. Have to assume that at this point both Kupp and the Rams medical staff know what they're doing and hopefully are being conservative. That's not always the case in pro sports however.
 

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I dunno .... assuming Kupp and the Rams trainers know what they’re doing...pretty dangerous.
He should probably sit till mid season just to be on the safe side.
 

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You can’t win speculating about this stuff.
Just like not playing guys in preseason.
If Kupp was treated with kid gloves and was injured early in the year it’s because he was treated too softly.
If he got injured in camp it would be because he was doing too much too soon.
The experts are experts with these injuries.
I trust them.
That said, there is a % that will get re injured or have issues and a % that will not be the same guy on the field ever again.
Thankfully, those numbers are way lower than they used to be.
 

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We need to have faith in McVay and his coaches and trust they know what they’re doing. McVay surrounded himself with the best knowledgeable staff Kroenke’s money could buy. Medical science and treatment isn’t like it was 30 or 40 years ago, as the treatments and the surgeries themselves have shortened the healing times of many sports injuries.

But did you really think that the Rams and their medical team, who I’m sure have far more knowledge and understanding of Kupp’s Injury than you or I, would allow him to be pushed to the point of risking injury after all this time of getting him ready? Didn’t think so.
 

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Some players come back from an acl, get touched on the chest and tear it again, like Sam Bradford.

Some come back from tearing it in December, then run for 2000 yards, like Adrian Peterson.

Every player is different.

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He did lots of sleds and strengthening exercises all off-season, and I feel like he has to practice cutting and running before being game ready. The probability that he injures his knee gameday may be higher if he doesn't work up to a game pace at all.
 

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... so much, so early on?
It worries me.

Last season I immediately said they rushed him back into action way too soon, and then his knee tore. Out for season.

I know some of you will be angry with me for even saying so but I think Cooper Kupp should take things slower. We really really really need him all season.

While I believe it's necessary for Kupp to do what is necessary to build his confidence back in how his body reacts to the surgery & healing, ... once he knows he's back, then i'd prefer to see him slow down a bit until the regular season games. I want a no injury camp.
 

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While I believe it's necessary for Kupp to do what is necessary to build his confidence back in how his body reacts to the surgery & healing, ... once he knows he's back, then i'd prefer to see him slow down a bit until the regular season games. I want a no injury camp.
I agree, especially re contact in the preseason.
I have to say that what happened to Durant and Thompson of the GS Warriors seems to me (from the outside, with no direct knowledge) to be nightmare examples of bringing guys back too soon. Hopefully the Rams are way more cautious with Kupp.
 

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When i consider all the professional experience i posses on this issue i must say this...

Don’t know, Bro.
 

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https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams...ury-and-is-full-go-at-training-camp-new-story

Cooper Kupp has caught up in return to Rams from knee injury

Despite Cooper Kupp’s enthusiasm and apparent fitness, when the Rams opened training camp last weekend, questions lingered about the wide receiver’s surgically repaired left knee and how that might affect what has become one of the NFL’s most prolific offenses the last two seasons.

Kupp looked strong in early individual drills and caught mostly uncontested passes as the initial workout at UC Irvine progressed.

Then Kupp ran a route across the middle of the field during a full-squad scrimmage period.

Quarterback Jared Goff delivered a high pass. Kupp, with two defenders nearly draped across his body, leaped with hands outstretched.

“When the ball’s in the air, as a receiver, it’s just you want to be a Frisbee-catching dog out there,” Kupp said.

Kupp caught the pass and landed without the slightest hint of a problem.

The entire Rams organization sighed in relief.

“I asked him, ‘Hey, you’re glad you got that one, huh?’ ” Goff said. “He was like, ‘Yeah, it felt good.’ ”

Kupp’s knee issue has not generated the same offseason scrutiny as running back Todd Gurley’s. But the third-year pro’s return to form is regarded as crucial if the passing game is to equal or surpass last season’s production.

Eight months after he suffered the season-ending knee injury against the Seattle Seahawks at the Coliseum, Kupp appears on track to start alongside 1,000-yard receivers Brandin Cooks and Robert Woods when the Rams open the season Sept. 8 against the Carolina Panthers.

On Tuesday, the Rams’ first practice in full pads, Kupp found a seam on the first play of a drill that pits the starting offense against the starting defense, and he broke free for a long pass from Goff.

“It sounds crazy,” coach Sean McVay said, “but he looks more explosive than he was before.”

Kupp, a 2017 third-round draft pick from Eastern Washington, was on track for a possible 1,000-yard season before he was injured. His problems began in the sixth game when he suffered what was described as a knee strain as he was dragged down from behind with a horse-collar tackle against the Denver Broncos. He sat out two games and then returned to catch a touchdown pass against the New Orleans Saints.

But the next week against the Seahawks, Kupp fell to the turf — despite no contact — and suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament. He finished with 40 catches for 566 yards and six touchdowns.

Kupp underwent surgery and then began the road back. He was limited during offseason team workouts but is cleared for full participation in training camp.

“Through all my rehab, I haven’t felt like I’ve had to hold back at all,” he said this week. “This is just one more step in that. I don’t feel like I’m holding myself back in any way.

“I’m pushing as far as my body will let me.”

Kupp acknowledged the mental challenge, but it has not slowed him during camp.

“When you have attacked every step of the process the right way, there’s nothing to fear,” he said after the first workout. “There’s nothing to doubt when you step on the field because you’ve done everything you possibly could to put yourself in this position.

“Now it’s just letting it ride, letting it go.”

Teammates were not surprised that Kupp returned ready for training camp and the season.

“That’s the last guy I would be worried about,” Gurley said. “He’s such a hard worker. He’s such a professional. He knows what to do.”

Kupp’s absence for the second half of the season and the playoffs was not entirely negative for the Rams because it created opportunities for other players.

Wide receiver Josh Reynolds moved into the starting lineup — with Woods sliding into Kupp’s position — and Reynolds’ confidence grew seemingly with each successive game. He caught 29 passes for 402 yards and five touchdowns.

Tight end Gerald Everett also benefited. McVay called more plays for him, and Everett responded with 33 catches for 320 yards and three touchdowns. Everett caught two touchdown passes in the Rams’ 54-51 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs on “Monday Night Football,” including one for 40 yards.

The ascent of those players should provide McVay and Goff with even more options now that Kupp is back.

Kupp referenced future Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning as a role model in regard to reviewing and studying an offense, even if it appeared he had already mastered it.

Kupp’s “intrinsic motivation, the way he’s wired,” makes him a special player, McVay said.

“He keeps you accountable as a coach,” McVay said. “You better make sure you have the answers to the questions because he’s doing his homework and if you say something wrong, he’s going to find a way to expose you.

“In a good way, though. It’s always positive.”

When on the field at the same time last season, Cooks, Woods and Kupp seamlessly operated in a scheme that helped the Rams rank among the NFL leaders in scoring and yardage.

Kupp is eager to get back into the offense.

“I don’t think you ever stop really learning it and being able to master it,” he said.
 

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There should be a much bigger penalty for horse collar tackling. That shit is the most bush league move. It causes severe injuries. A 15 yard penalty isn't enough. The fucker who does it should be thrown out of the game just like a targeting penalty... and be required to sit out all games the victim misses because of an injury caused by the bitchass horse collar.

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