Schefter: #22 up for sale

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BonifayRam said:
Why trade up at a heavy cost? Who are we fighting to get again? When did we fill all these holes on our 53 roster that we can just trade away picks? I was sure under the impression that we were at our limit in our Cap $$$ so where do you find cheap real cheap labor? Not UFA's ... Its the draft!

Rams needs are many on both sides of the ball. At a bare minimum the Rams need 2 or 3 safeties to bring us up to 4 to 5 safeties, 2 OSLB'ers at least Rams really have just two JL & Dunbar, 2 corners to bring us up to the standard 5 CB's that's 7 on defense alone.

Rams need a big large TE, a every-down RB, Several WR's & a third ORT type ...that's five there so that's 12 players there. So you ROD'ers are wanting to have less picks that's the object ?.....is to have less selections?

I would be highly disappointed with trading up period. Rams one yr ago greatly benefited from a trade down of our first round pick what would Snead & Fisher do with Two trade downs @ #16 and #22 ? I see the goal here to add as many selections as possible in this foundational building program. Please do not forget we are just one year out from where we were a year ago & that was the very bottom that a NFL team. You can trust Snead & Fisher to get good players till the end of the draft! Rams had 10 selections in 2012. Only one late 7th round pick failed to contribute & did not make the team.

Rams draft history is very very poor until last year that curse was broken. In 2011 Rams had 8 picks 3 made the team, in 2010 they had 11 picks only 4 were a hit & in 2009 with 7 selections only one was a hit. Snead & Fisher hit with 9 out of 10. I say trade down and let these guys work their magic once again. I would be just fine with only one very late first rd pick this evening and hoping for 5 picks Friday as a result.

I am not for trading a first round pick this season for a first rounder in 2014 either...Sam is now on his back side of his contract we need to get him many weapons now not later! Lets not get greedy here with desires of three first round picks in 2014. Sam need help YESTERDAY!
Yes, now not later, but we don't know how much we will give up to move up, so at this point I don't see any reason get upset yet. And if we trade down and recoup the picks, what would be the harm?
 

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V3 said:
iced said:
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There will be other players that will be good that will be available at 16 and players that are that small and short almost never do much. Even the best ones haven't been anything special.
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steve smith and desean jackson disagree.

never been anything special but yet Desean Jackson has the best play of all time...(return td vs giants for win)

First, I'm talking about when looking at a career. Jackson can't stay on the field; something many people are concerned about with Austin at his size. Second, Jackson is taller. If you read the article it goes into detail about that. Give me an example of a player that's 5'8" that has been good. Give me an example of a player that 5'8" and weighs only 175 that was good in the NFL. You won't find any that had very good careers that weren't niche/role players.

My main point is that Austin isn't worth trading UP for.

I have the same concerns about him holding up and wouldn't trade up to get him.

Him being a hot topic in this draft underscored what Polian was saying. He is being over valued because this is a weak draft. I heard the Polian interview and when he said that I was thinking that the Rams need to work a deal to get another first rounder next year when the draft is supposed to be talent heavy.

I think it's a bad idea to draft a part time "toy" type of player that high. The first round is not the place for that.
 

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I don't see us trading up in this draft, early. Maybe later, but not with those first rounders.

We'll trade down with one or both first rounders if I had to wager.
 

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Just said on espn after speaking to snead he said they are possibly ready to strike either way with both of their picks
 

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LesBaker said:
V3 said:
iced said:
V3 said:
Stranger said:
There will be other players that will be good that will be available at 16 and players that are that small and short almost never do much. Even the best ones haven't been anything special.
.

steve smith and desean jackson disagree.

never been anything special but yet Desean Jackson has the best play of all time...(return td vs giants for win)

First, I'm talking about when looking at a career. Jackson can't stay on the field; something many people are concerned about with Austin at his size. Second, Jackson is taller. If you read the article it goes into detail about that. Give me an example of a player that's 5'8" that has been good. Give me an example of a player that 5'8" and weighs only 175 that was good in the NFL. You won't find any that had very good careers that weren't niche/role players.

My main point is that Austin isn't worth trading UP for.

I have the same concerns about him holding up and wouldn't trade up to get him.

Him being a hot topic in this draft underscored what Polian was saying. He is being over valued because this is a weak draft. I heard the Polian interview and when he said that I was thinking that the Rams need to work a deal to get another first rounder next year when the draft is supposed to be talent heavy.

I think it's a bad idea to draft a part time "toy" type of player that high. The first round is not the place for that.

Depending on who's there at both picks, I honestly wouldn't mind if the Rams traded BOTH first round picks for first round picks next year plus some change this year.
 

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V3 said:
iced said:
V3 said:
Stranger said:
There will be other players that will be good that will be available at 16 and players that are that small and short almost never do much. Even the best ones haven't been anything special.
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steve smith and desean jackson disagree.

never been anything special but yet Desean Jackson has the best play of all time...(return td vs giants for win)

First, I'm talking about when looking at a career. Jackson can't stay on the field; something many people are concerned about with Austin at his size. Second, Jackson is taller. If you read the article it goes into detail about that. Give me an example of a player that's 5'8" that has been good. Give me an example of a player that 5'8" and weighs only 175 that was good in the NFL. You won't find any that had very good careers that weren't niche/role players.

My main point is that Austin isn't worth trading UP for.

dude - 5'10 to 5'8 isn't that big a difference at that height. Secondly, Desean Jackson isn't a 'jump ball' guy - he's a speedster, return man.... just like austin
 

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Lotsssss of buz around the 16th pick and moving up to 8 for Tavon Austin.
 

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A55VA6 said:
Lotsssss of buz around the 16th pick and moving up to 8 for Tavon Austin.
Straight like that.
 

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I'm kind of surprised;

There were rumours we'd trade up.

There were rumours we wanted to trade down from 22.

Both happened.

Weird.