Rams vs Saints- a betting perspective needed.

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

tbux

Rookie
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
497
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #21
My buddy will bet on anything- I do not. I will say there is always an angle to any game most of the time. Vegas isnt perfect. Inside info can be had on certain players, coaching philosophies etc in preseason. Backup Qb play etc. He says there are more angles to find in preseason than in reg season. I dont know if that is true or not- but that is what he said.
 

ZigZagRam

Pro Bowler
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
1,846
Most sports bettors always think there's always an angle. That's what keeps the sportsbooks profitable.
 

MrMotes

Starter
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
954
Betting real dollars on a preseason contest?...really?

In all seriousness, why is betting on preseason dumber than betting on regular season?

Do you think you can do a better job of picking winners against the spread in regular season than you can in preseason?
 

ZigZagRam

Pro Bowler
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
1,846
In all seriousness, why is betting on preseason dumber than betting on regular season?

Do you think you can do a better job of picking winners against the spread in regular season than you can in preseason?

Yes. Every single year.

The coaches scheme, you know more about the players that are going to be playing the whole game, you have x weeks of data to take into account. Etc. etc. etc.

Preseason is a complete crapshoot. Different coaches have different intentions. Flip a coin and you'll probably get the same results.
 

dieterbrock

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 3, 2013
Messages
23,112
Yes. Every single year.

The coaches scheme, you know more about the players that are going to be playing the whole game, you have x weeks of data to take into account. Etc. etc. etc.

Preseason is a complete crapshoot. Different coaches have different intentions. Flip a coin and you'll probably get the same results.
Winners I agree with you, against the spread I totally disagree. How many times is the office pool won by somebody who doesnt know a thing about football?
 

ZigZagRam

Pro Bowler
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
1,846
Winners I agree with you, against the spread I totally disagree. How many times is the office pool won by somebody who doesnt know a thing about football?

There's always going to be some lucky ones too.

The more I think about it though, I think Motes may have a point for the majority of sports bettors. In fact, most people who wager on sports would probably do better flipping a coin for all contests.

But for those that profit, we'd be throwing away money trying and bet on a preseason contest.
 
Last edited:

dieterbrock

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 3, 2013
Messages
23,112
Hate to tell ya Diet, but chances are 95% of the people in your office pool don't know enough to make an educated wager on a football game either.

There's always going to be some lucky ones too.

Fact is, most people shouldn't bet on sports, but they keep the machine profitable. But having some knowledge of what's going on gives you an edge in the regular season.

I regularly hit around 65% of spread picks over the course of the season, I don't imagine I'd ever hit that in the preseason, nor would I be dumb enough to try.
When someone hits 11 or 12 out of 15, who's the educated one?
65% against the spread is pretty high. Is that picking all games, or picking a handful
 

Rmfnlt

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jun 3, 2014
Messages
5,342
Yes. Every single year.

The coaches scheme, you know more about the players that are going to be playing the whole game, you have x weeks of data to take into account. Etc. etc. etc.

Preseason is a complete crapshoot. Different coaches have different intentions. Flip a coin and you'll probably get the same results.

This seems logical to me. Boy, betting on pre-season games? Surprised me when I read some people actually do.

I can think of at least 10,000 other things I'd rather spend my money on. :)
 

ZigZagRam

Pro Bowler
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
1,846
When someone hits 11 or 12 out of 15, who's the educated one?
65% against the spread is pretty high. Is that picking all games, or picking a handful

I usually pick around 5 games per week. I don't know anyone who's profitable betting all games.

I'm also in a pick 4 league with a group who buys into a pot at the beginning of the season. If you go 4-0 you win a portion of the pot. If nobody wins the pot rolls over to the next week.

People scoff at 4-0 but they're always surprised when I tell them to try it themselves.

I only cashed 3 times last year.
 

dieterbrock

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 3, 2013
Messages
23,112
I usually pick around 5 games per week. I don't know anyone who's profitable betting all games.
Wasnt meaning profitable, just was wondering what the sample size was. Whether on a website pick em or an office pool, most people I know who pick games are picking every game somewhere
 

ZigZagRam

Pro Bowler
Joined
May 12, 2014
Messages
1,846
Wasnt meaning profitable, just was wondering what the sample size was. Whether on a website pick em or an office pool, most people I know who pick games are picking every game somewhere

I do that for fun and a small wager, but I save the real money for smarter plays. I'm referring to people that bet on games outside of their office pools and such.

I'm not going to throw in a chunk of change on a game just because it's on the schedule.
 
Last edited:

tbux

Rookie
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
497
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #33
well some interesting takes. I don't think Preseason is a complete crapshoot- because some teams do attack it differently, which if you know, could be a big advantage. Same with backup QBs, etc or how long each play starters etc. I could be wrong- don't bet them personally- but who knows? he wanted any inside info. Told him who is out, and that Fisher prob very vanilla tomorrow and starters not playing long. Told him under prob sounds best to me- but no idea.
 

MrMotes

Starter
Joined
May 6, 2014
Messages
954
Most sports bettors always think there's always an angle. That's what keeps the sportsbooks profitable.

Taking money off the top of every bet is what makes sports books profitable.

I'd really like to see this 65% winner against the spread rate you've got. Maybe we could all pick our 5 favorite games against the spread each week and see how we do over time?
 

tbux

Rookie
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
497
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #35
If someone could get 65% against the spread consistently- they should move to Vegas and become rich- very doubtful.
 

HE WITH HORNS

Hall of Fame
Joined
Feb 16, 2013
Messages
3,837
Most sports bettors always think there's always an angle. That's what keeps the sportsbooks profitable.

I would say it's their 10% take that makes them profitable. They can't lose when there is equal money bet on both sides.