(Poll) Goff or Wentz. Who do YOU want?

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Which QB do you want?

  • Jared Goff

  • Carson Wentz

  • Don't care. I'm just here to troll the board


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Mojo Ram

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It'll be interesting to see where ROD stands on this.
I still want Wentz because i believe he's a better fit for this offense and the division, but either way i'm good.

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Voted Goff although was really tempted to go with option 3 :heh:
 

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Tough one for me.

Wentz.
1) Played under center and called his own protection. Pretty advanced.
2) Like his size and athleticism.
3) Not sure about the level of competition he faced, but has proven to be a winner.


Goff.
1) Smart, accurate pocket passer. Which I like. I'd take an A Rodgers over a Cam. Probably just me.
2) played against some tough competition.
3) His frame concerns me. It sounds as though doctors have figured out why he couldn't gain weight and have addressed the issue. I'm just a bit gun shy after the injuries to Bradford.
I want a guy that's going to play every game. Every year.
I'm probably just being overly cautious.
 

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Wentz. From everything I've heard, the bright lights of the combine and the Sr. Bowl didn't faze him a bit. I think he can handle it, he's a great fit for this offense, he's got the work ethic, he's got the physical tools, and the character.

I won't be distraught if it's Goff though.
 

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It was tough for me to hit the “cast your vote” button. My head was telling me Goff. My heart was telling me Wentz.
 

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Tough one for me.

Wentz.
1) Played under center and called his own protection. Pretty advanced.
2) Like his size and athleticism.
3) Not sure about the level of competition he faced, but has proven to be a winner.


Goff.
1) Smart, accurate pocket passer. Which I like. I'd take an A Rodgers over a Cam. Probably just me.
2) played against some tough competition.
3) His frame concerns me. It sounds as though doctors have figured out why he couldn't gain weight and have addressed the issue. I'm just a bit gun shy after the injuries to Bradford.
I want a guy that's going to play every game. Every year.
I'm probably just being overly cautious.
I'm really going back and forth on this, But I think Wentz is more pro ready! So Wentz!!
 

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I like Wentz, I think his downsides are more coachable than Goff's. Physically he's there, and he played in an offense that's a natural fit for us. To me, Wentz extends plays and makes you miss, and pay when you do. Goff has a better arm, but I think requires more of a rythem.
 

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I take it you like Goff :LOL:

I voted Wentz cause his size and athleticism - although Goff has that insane accuracy
 

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Wentz is my guy.

First, I don't really take too much stock into the whole "competition of the FCS" stuff. I think that's pretty far down the list of priorities and a foolish reason for a pretty polished draft prospect to be pushed down. Kind of like Breese and Wilson being pushed down because of their height.

Fisher loves big athletic QB's, this will be the third he's drafted. What another poster above said about him calling his own protections and all that speaks into the type of smarts that we should want in our QB for a Fisher offense. He doesn't need to light the world on fire with his arm. He needs to read the defense and put Gurley and Tavon in position to break games. I feel Wentz is that guy.
 

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I just think Wentz has everything you are looking for - which probably means the opposite. Watching him throw, he seems to hit his receivers more in stride on the routes we are most likely to see on a consistent basis. He also seems to have an innate feel for where to put the ball where the defender can't get to it but his receiver can. He is also more mobile and physical and in this division, that is going to be key IMO.

Either way, I think we get a QB that can play at this level and though I wouldn't personally have made this trade, I am all aboard with getting a QB that can be very good while preventing us from having to spend $20 million + on going after a FA next season.
 

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I need two more weeks to decide!:hiding::baghead:

I like Goff's characteristics..great quick feet, quick release and accuracy.

I like the size and arm of Wentz.

At this point I'm also happy with either one.
 

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I GUESS YOU REALLY LIKE GOFF!!:LOL::D(y)
 

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Goff by far.

Wentz has bust potential. A no name until the senior bowl process. Had success in an already winning program. Bad completion percentage vs the blitz less accurate passer. Size and arm strength are what teams like.

Goff played vs top competition. Great pocket passer. Quick reads and decision making and great accuracy! Deep ball accuracy incredible. Took horrible program and lead them to a winning program. Never hurt in 3 years. QB IQ is elite.
 

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I prefer Goff for these reasons: 1. Cal Berkeley, big time Pac-12 program so he's played in the big stage with all focus on him from how he responds to defensive pressures from those college teams in the conference. 2.) Accuracy. 3.) Good at diagnosing defenses and 4.) Extends plays with his running.
 

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Wentz. We made a bold move to get to #1. Wentz is the continuation of the bold move Hair and 'Stache are making.

Goff is a more safe choice, but went to one of my rival SF bay area high schools- Marin Catholic, and reeks of Niner stench.

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A lot to pay, but we'll see. Neither is ready to start this year so here's to another mediocre season.