Player comparisons

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I really like Snead's comments earlier in the year about how he likes to compare draftees to current players in the league. What he sees in them that established players already have. Here's a short(?)-list of players that multiple sites have mocked to the Rams this month. I'd like to know how people *see* these players in comparison to guys already in the league (or since retired - either way).

Can you put some names after the = sign?

Jonathan Cooper =
Chance Warmack =
Tavon Austin =
Cordarrelle Patterson =
Keenan Allen =
Eddie Lacy =
Matt Elam =
Kenny Vaccaro =
Jonathan Cyprien =
Alec Ogletree =

 

[ramsince62]

I really like Snead's comments earlier in the year about how he likes to compare draftees to current players in the league. What he sees in them that established players already have. Here's a short(?)-list of players that multiple sites have mocked to the Rams this month. I'd like to know how people *see* these players in comparison to guys already in the league (or since retired - either way).

Can you put some names after the = sign?

Jonathan Cooper =
Chance Warmack =
Tavon Austin =
Cordarrelle Patterson =
Keenan Allen =
Eddie Lacy =
Matt Elam =
Kenny Vaccaro =
Jonathan Cyprien =
Alec Ogletree =

I've been waiting for the opportunity to make this comparison since I watched an NFL Net video the other day about the top 10 power rushers....Is it just me or does Tavon Austin's (open field) running style look very similar to Gale Sayers? Obviously Sayer's isn't current, but I was especially impressed by the comparisons as they both seem to allude tacklers and change direction in similar fashion and when free, it's Katie bar the door. :boing:

So FWIW: Tavon Austin = Gayle Sayers

I know it's a reach, but I just couldn't "help myself" :sly:

I don't know about you folks, but I think we could sure use a receiver (optional part time RB) that can do what he does if only on ST's and as a 3rd down specialist running free in space. Heck, it seems to me even dink passes could turn into scores in a heart beat and we could sure use some of that. :7up:

 

[fearsomefour]

Chance Warmack=Larry Allen.

I think he can be that good. One of the best road grading OG in the last several decades in my opinion....speaking of Allen. Allen may have been a little more fleet of foot, but, Warmack would add such a physcial pressence to the Rams Oline, if by some act of whatever, he is there at 16 he can not be passed over. The fact that the Raiders, Cardinals and Chiefs have all traded for QBs shows what they think of this years draft class. I was thinking at least 2 and maybe 3 QBs would be taken before the Rams at 16....now I am thinking just 1 and maybe 2.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I'm reading a lot of comparisons between Patterson and Percy Harvin, except Patterson being a bigger version.

Eddie Lacy is Marshawn Lynch with Ray Rice's footwork.

 

[ScotsRam]

I'm reading a lot of comparisons between Patterson and Percy Harvin, except Patterson being a bigger version.

Eddie Lacy is Marshawn Lynch with Ray Rice's footwork.

:wootwoot:

 

[Memento]

Matt Elam = a bigger, more healthy Bob Sanders. (Absolutely has to be considered an option at #22. My number one rated safety. Pity he's more of a strong safety than a free safety...)

Kenny Vaccaro = Eric Weddle with Troy Polamalu's physicality. (Vaccaro's as smart as well, covers as well as Weddle, but while he may not be as talented as Polamalu, he has the same physicality and willingness to go up and stop the run).

Jonathan Cyprien = Louis Delmas (they're best friends, and that's who he's modeled his game after. I can see Cyprien having a better career than Delmas).

And one more comparison:

Star Lotulelei = Haloti Ngata. I wish we had a shot at this guy. He's going to be an All-Pro in this league several times over. If he falls to sixteen for some inexplicable reason; I'm going to dance all the way back home from the bar.

Edit: Dammit, I hate errors...

 

[libertadrocks]

I'm reading a lot of comparisons between Patterson and Percy Harvin, except Patterson being a bigger version.

Eddie Lacy is Marshawn Lynch with Ray Rice's footwork.

:wootwoot:

I disagree with the Lacy comparison. I dont think he'll be as good as either of those guys. IMO Michael Turner is a better comparison.

 

[ReddingRam]

I really like Snead's comments earlier in the year about how he likes to compare draftees to current players in the league. What he sees in them that established players already have. Here's a short(?)-list of players that multiple sites have mocked to the Rams this month. I'd like to know how people *see* these players in comparison to guys already in the league (or since retired - either way).

Can you put some names after the = sign?

Jonathan Cooper = Marshal Yanda
Chance Warmack = Larry Allen
Tavon Austin = Percy Harvin - not a pusre WR. More of a weapon
Cordarrelle Patterson = Darius Heyward-Bey -size, speed but lots to learn
Keenan Allen = Dwayne Bowe
Eddie Lacy = Marshawn Lynch ... although not as violent as a runner
Matt Elam = Bob Sanders
Kenny Vaccaro = Like his former UT Counterpart - Earl Thomas
Jonathan Cyprien = Dashon Goldson - a do it all guy
Alec Ogletree = Haven't seen enough of this guy to really compare to any NFL player. Sorry :|

That is my stab at it :cheese:

 

[ReddingRam]

I'm reading a lot of comparisons between Patterson and Percy Harvin, except Patterson being a bigger version.

Eddie Lacy is Marshawn Lynch with Ray Rice's footwork.

:wootwoot:

I disagree with the Lacy comparison. I dont think he'll be as good as either of those guys. IMO Michael Turner is a better comparison.

That is probably correct :yeh:

 

[brokeu91]

The comparison I see when watching Tavon Austin is Reggie Bush-both are fast, quick, great ability in open field but undersized.

 

[DR RAM]

Jonathan Cooper = Josh Sitton, but more athletic. Hard time comparing this player, he's unique.
Chance Warmack = Brandon Moore, Jets. Mauler.
Tavon Austin = Percy Harvin meets Panther's Steve Smith. Tavon is a one of a kind.
Cordarrelle Patterson = Eric Dickerson running the ball, meet Nate Burelson. I've racked my brain to find a comparison for him, but one day it hit me...ED, so I pulled up some old tape and watched them back to back, and was blown away. Very similar style when running the ball. When he runs the ball he has a different attitude than when receiving the ball.
Keenan Allen = Michael Floyd
Eddie Lacy = Maurice Jone Drew, he's bigger, but he's slower.
Matt Elam = Ed Reed. One of the easiest comparisons.
Kenny Vaccaro = Roy Williams, Cowboys. Big hitter, good around the line of scrimmage. Not great in space.
Jonathan Cyprien = Adrien Wilson. I don't know if I've ever seen a player tackle as well in heavy traffic. Limited tape in coverage, but he can cover a lot of ground. Played a little free at the Senior Bowl, and played well.
Alec Ogletree = I've seen a lot of Panther's Thomas Davis comparisons. I'm OK with that. Also seen Lawrence Timmons comps.

 

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Jonathan Cooper = Josh Sitton, but more athletic. Hard time comparing this player, he's unique.
Chance Warmack = Brandon Moore, Jets. Mauler.
Tavon Austin = Percy Harvin meets Panther's Steve Smith. Tavon is a one of a kind.
Cordarrelle Patterson = Eric Dickerson running the ball, meet Nate Burelson. I've racked my brain to find a comparison for him, but one day it hit me...ED, so I pulled up some old tape and watched them back to back, and was blown away. Very similar style when running the ball. When he runs the ball he has a different attitude than when receiving the ball.
Keenan Allen = Michael Floyd
Eddie Lacy = Maurice Jone Drew, he's bigger, but he's slower.
Matt Elam = Ed Reed. One of the easiest comparisons.
Kenny Vaccaro = Roy Williams, Cowboys. Big hitter, good around the line of scrimmage. Not great in space.
Jonathan Cyprien = Adrien Wilson. I don't know if I've ever seen a player tackle as well in heavy traffic. Limited tape in coverage, but he can cover a lot of ground. Played a little free at the Senior Bowl, and played well.
Alec Ogletree = I've seen a lot of Panther's Thomas Davis comparisons. I'm OK with that. Also seen Lawrence Timmons comps.

Nice. Thanks man.

 

[DR RAM]

Jonathan Cooper = Josh Sitton, but more athletic. Hard time comparing this player, he's unique.
Chance Warmack = Brandon Moore, Jets. Mauler.
Tavon Austin = Percy Harvin meets Panther's Steve Smith. Tavon is a one of a kind.
Cordarrelle Patterson = Eric Dickerson running the ball, meet Nate Burelson. I've racked my brain to find a comparison for him, but one day it hit me...ED, so I pulled up some old tape and watched them back to back, and was blown away. Very similar style when running the ball. When he runs the ball he has a different attitude than when receiving the ball.
Keenan Allen = Michael Floyd
Eddie Lacy = Maurice Jone Drew, he's bigger, but he's slower.
Matt Elam = Ed Reed. One of the easiest comparisons.
Kenny Vaccaro = Roy Williams, Cowboys. Big hitter, good around the line of scrimmage. Not great in space.
Jonathan Cyprien = Adrien Wilson. I don't know if I've ever seen a player tackle as well in heavy traffic. Limited tape in coverage, but he can cover a lot of ground. Played a little free at the Senior Bowl, and played well.
Alec Ogletree = I've seen a lot of Panther's Thomas Davis comparisons. I'm OK with that. Also seen Lawrence Timmons comps.

Nice. Thanks man.

Some of these were really tough, and I truly believe there are some very unique players in this draft. What does that mean as far as them translating?? It makes some of these picks very tough for the GM's/Coaches. They like to project these guys onto their teams. I'll give a few more:

Lane Johnson = Joe Staley, but even more athletic and aggressive.
Eric Fisher = Joe Thomas, but more nasty. Mayock finally caught up to me and moved him over Joekel.
Larry Warford = Larry Allen.
Kyle Long = Mike Iupati, but Kyle is way more athletic. Kind of a unique athlete, plays nasty too.
Quinton Patton = Very smooth, but not quite as fast as Marvin Harrison.
Justin Hunter = A.J. Green, but Hunter is faster. Would be a consistent down-field threat.

 

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Kyle Long = Mike Iupati, but Kyle is way more athletic. Kind of a unique athlete, plays nasty too.

Really? I'll have to watch some more tape on Long and less of his twitter interactions. :sly:

 

[DR RAM]

Kyle Long = Mike Iupati, but Kyle is way more athletic. Kind of a unique athlete, plays nasty too.

Really? I'll have to watch some more tape on Long and less of his twitter interactions. :sly:

There's not a lot of tape out there. If you can find Senior Bowl tape, watch that if you can. Watch him stonewall 346 pound John Jenkins, and then go block a corner on a hitch play, how he got there, I still don't know. All of this after having the flu all week and not practicing. There are so many players that I like in the second round, that I really hope we can drop down and pick up another second and third or fourth. Worst case scenario for Kyle is that he'd be our number one backup for 4 out of the 5 interior positions, IMO.

 

[Memento]

Kyle Long = Mike Iupati, but Kyle is way more athletic. Kind of a unique athlete, plays nasty too.

Really? I'll have to watch some more tape on Long and less of his twitter interactions. :sly:

There's not a lot of tape out there. If you can find Senior Bowl tape, watch that if you can. Watch him stonewall 346 pound John Jenkins, and then go block a corner on a hitch play, how he got there, I still don't know. All of this after having the flu all week and not practicing. There are so many players that I like in the second round, that I really hope we can drop down and pick up another second and third or fourth. Worst case scenario for Kyle is that he'd be our number one backup for 4 out of the 5 interior positions, IMO.

I completely agree with that statement. There's so many players that I'd love to have in the second round. Not so many - if at all - that I'd love to have at #16 (personally, I believe that Austin, Patterson, and Warmack are long gone by that point). Even at #22, there's not a lot of players that I'd love to have while not reaching: Elam and Cyprien are probably the only players I like at that range.

 

[DR RAM]

Kyle Long = Mike Iupati, but Kyle is way more athletic. Kind of a unique athlete, plays nasty too.

Really? I'll have to watch some more tape on Long and less of his twitter interactions. :sly:

There's not a lot of tape out there. If you can find Senior Bowl tape, watch that if you can. Watch him stonewall 346 pound John Jenkins, and then go block a corner on a hitch play, how he got there, I still don't know. All of this after having the flu all week and not practicing. There are so many players that I like in the second round, that I really hope we can drop down and pick up another second and third or fourth. Worst case scenario for Kyle is that he'd be our number one backup for 4 out of the 5 interior positions, IMO.

I completely agree with that statement. There's so many players that I'd love to have in the second round. Not so many - if at all - that I'd love to have at #16 (personally, I believe that Austin, Patterson, and Warmack are long gone by that point). Even at #22, there's not a lot of players that I'd love to have while not reaching: Elam and Cyprien are probably the only players I like at that range.

Cooper is the only player that might be there that I like, and I can't believe I am saying that about a guard. A bit of a reach, but you'd have to consider, Cyprien, Elam, my two favorite safeties, Hunter, M. Watson if you want to pull the next tackle. Kawann Short, or Sylvester Williams could be in play. Last but not least, if either Xavier Rhodes, or Desmond Trufant are available, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[jrry32]

This is what I have:
Jonathan Cooper = Marshall Yanda
Chance Warmack = Alan Faneca
Tavon Austin = Gary Clark
Cordarrelle Patterson = Jeremy Maclin
Keenan Allen = Michael Crabtree
Eddie Lacy = Rudi Johnson
Matt Elam = Ryan Clark
Kenny Vaccaro = Michael Huff
Jonathan Cyprien = Dashon Goldson
Alec Ogletree = Derrick Johnson

None are perfect comparisons but this is who I think they best compare to in the NFL.

 

[libertadrocks]

DR.... Based on your comparison of Vaccaro to Roy Williams, are you suggesting that you think he will be a liability in coverage? Or just that he likes to lay wood?

Gotta give props to you an jrry. I tried to sit down and draw comparisons between those prospect and NFL players and struggled.

I agree with your Austin/Harvin comparison. Thats what I had as well. Although a cross between Harvin and Smith is a better comparison.

 

[DR RAM]

DR.... Based on your comparison of Vaccaro to Roy Williams, are you suggesting that you think he will be a liability in coverage? Or just that he likes to lay wood?

Gotta give props to you an jrry. I tried to sit down and draw comparisons between those prospect and NFL players and struggled.

I agree with your Austin/Harvin comparison. Thats what I had as well. Although a cross between Harvin and Smith is a better comparison.

Thanks, and I think that both may be true about Vaccaro, I see him as an excellent in the box safety who hits hard. I also see him as maybe a bit of a liability in space, more so than in coverage. He does a pretty good job on covering guys in the slot, but I don't see him as a center fielder. Cyprien appears to be more fluid as an athlete, and I think he will cover more ground with the ball in the air. Same with Elam. P. Thomas, and B. Rambo also seem like more pure free safeties.