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Official Roster Cuts Thread

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by A55VA6, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Tron Fights for the User

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    you make a good point, and i hope you are right.
     
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  2. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    Thee's no doubt it would be nice to have Davis on the practice squad. I think eventually he could make this roster, but not right now. I'm getting kind of fed up with Darian Stewart. He's injured every week of every season, it seems.
     
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  3. Ramhusker Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Practice squad canidates?

    I see Davis, Brodine, Veltung, Helmick, Woodard, and????
     
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  4. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    Austin Davis.
     
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  5. paceram Well-Known Member

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    Philip Lutzenkirchen, Ryan Lee, Rashard Hall?
     
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  6. kurtfaulk Well-Known Member

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    we'll soon find out what the rest of the league thinks of these players.

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  7. BonifayRam Well-Known Member

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    Here's some of my guesstimates on the possible Practice Squad.

    #1-Cody Davis/Safety
    #2-Nick Johnson/WR/PR
    #3-Mason Brodine DL
    #4-Darren Woodard/CB
    #5-Ty Nsekhe/OT
    #6-Phillip Lutzenkerchen/TE
    #7-Drew Thomas/CB
    #8-?/QB
     
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  8. Memphis Ram Well-Known Member

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    PD LINK

    QB Davis, LB Hull among Rams players released


    By Jim Thomas jthomas@post-dispatch.com > 314-340-8197

    Nothing’s official yet, because the Rams have yet to turn anything into the NFL office. They will wait until this afternoon.

    But the roster shaping is basically done in terms of the first version of the team’s 53-man roster. On a busy Friday at Rams Park, the team told at least 18 players they were being released.

    There were unconfirmed reports that a 19th, wide receiver Justin Veltung, also was being released. A 20th could very well be offensive lineman Sean Hooey, who has been shelved for the past couple of weeks with an ankle injury but may now be healthy.

    If Veltung and Hooey are indeed released, the Rams will be at 53. The team had to release only 20 players from its 75-man roster instead of 22 because running back Isaiah Pead and linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar begin their NFL suspensions now that the preseason is over and do not count against the 53-man roster.

    There were a few mild surprises among Friday’s cuts, but nothing earth-shaking. A rundown of where the roster stands following Friday’s developments:

    • At the moment, it appears the Rams will enter the regular season with just two quarterbacks because Austin Davis is being released. That means Sam Bradford will be backed up by Kellen Clemens, who was impressive Thursday night against Baltimore. Davis is practice squad eligible. Clemens did it the hard way, rallying from a 0.0 quarterback rating two weeks ago against Green Bay to complete 13 of 18 for 188 yards against Baltimore with a 105.8 passer rating.

    “His rough night in Green Bay — he played a little bit later, didn’t have as great a supporting cast, and Green Bay was doing a lot of exotic pressures,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “He was under siege. Last night, he had protection, which he would if he’s going to be in the game with the starters. I thought he executed and did a nice job.”

    • In what could be a feel-good story at running back, Chase Reynolds is currently on the 53-man roster. Reynolds has banged around for two years on the practice squad but always seems to fare well in preseason play when given a chance. He scored the game-winning touchdown against the Ravens and could make his first NFL roster — if only for a week — because of the Pead suspension. Also, it looks like the Rams will open the season with no true fullback because undrafted rookie Eric Stevens was let go.

    • There were two tough cuts at tight end, with rookie free agent Philip Lutzenkirchen and four-year NFL veteran Zach Potter released. Potter caught a TD pass last week in Denver. That leaves just four tight ends: Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Cory Harkey and Mike McNeill. Harkey is out with a slight fracture of the leg for the next two or three weeks, so the Rams are banking on Kendricks being ready to go for the Sept. 8 season opener, or else they will be thin at the position.

    • At wide receiver, if Veltung has indeed been released, it looks like the Rams are keeping only their so-called “Big Five” of Tavon Austin, Chris Givens, Austin Pettis, Brian Quick and Stedman Bailey. Nick Johnson, who caught his second pass of the preseason, is gone. So is Emory Blake.

    • Things went according to chalk on the offensive line, with Ty Nsekhe and D.J. Young both released. That leaves the Rams top-heavy with 11 O-linemen on the roster for now, although it becomes 10 if Hooey goes.

    • There were some tough cuts on the defensive line with end-tackle Mason Brodine and end R.J. Washington released. Both had their moments in training and the preseason. Brodine had a fumble recovery against Baltimore. It looks like the Rams will keep nine defensive linemen, with impressive undrafted rookie Gerald Rivers apparently making the squad. End-linebacker Sammy Brown, who was injured most of camp, was also released, as was undrafted rookie tackle Garret Goebel.

    • In a mild surprise at linebacker, Josh Hull, one of the Rams’ core special teams players in recent seasons, is being released, a victim of more fleet-footed competition in the form of undrafted rookies Ray Ray Armstrong, Daren Bates and Jonathan Stewart.

    “I thought we saw improvement out of the young linebackers, so I think that obviously has increased their chances, especially on special teams,” Fisher said.

    • There was lots of activity in the secondary, with cornerbacks Andre Martin, Drew Thomas and Darren Woodard being told they were being released, as well as safeties Cody Davis and Rashard Hall. Those moves left the Rams with 10 defensive backs. Safety could be a little tenuous because Darian Stewart (hamstring) and Matt Giordano (calf) are injured, although Giordano is close to returning. Martin is a St. Louisan from McCluer High.

    But keep in mind, this current roster is hardly set in concrete, as Fisher alluded to following the 24-21 victory over the Ravens.

    “The roster may look, initially, a little different than it has in the past,” Fisher said. “We may carry more at one position and fewer at the others and look for outside help.”

    Such was the case last season, with the Rams claiming four players off waivers in the first two days following the league-wide deadline to reach 53 players: RB Terrance Ganaway, DT Kellen Heard, OT Nsekhe and OG Shelley Smith. In addition, the Rams traded WR Greg Salas to New England for a future draft pick during that time period.

    With that in mind, none of the bubble players who survived Friday’s activity should put a down payment on a home just yet.
     
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  9. nighttrain Well-Known Member

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    And I hope they are still available
    train
     
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  10. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    OL Sean Hooey cut. Rams now at 53.
     
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  11. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    Its about time.
     
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  12. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    RAMS ANNOUNCE ROSTER MOVES 

    ST. LOUIS – The St. Louis Rams made 22 transactions Saturday to reach the NFL-mandated 53-man roster limit. 

    The Rams waived the following 19 players:

    WR Emory Blake; DE Mason Brodine; LB/DE Sammy Brown; QB Austin Davis; S Cody Davis; DT Garrett Goebel; S Rashard Hall; T Sean Hooey; LB Josh Hull; WR Nick Johnson; TE Philip Lutzenkirchen; CB Andre Martin; TE Zach Potter; FB Eric Stevens; CB Drew Thomas; WR Justin Veltung; T D.J. Young; DE R.J. Washington and CB Darren Woodard. 

    In addition, T Ty Nsekhe was waived/injured, and the team placed LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar and RB Isaiah Pead on Reserve-Suspended. Also Saturday, the team reached an injury settlement with OL Ryan Lee, who was waived/injured earlier in the week. 

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  13. LumberTubs Member

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    I've been away for a week or so but there was a debate on here about whether the Rams keep Helmick, Johnson or Veltung but I see now they've all been released. Presumably because cook is effectively a sixth WR.

    Plus is Josh Hull's release a surprise? Don't know much about him but he was being spoken about as a versatile back up with experience of this defence.

    Apologies if all of this is answered elsewhere but I can't be bothered to read through all of the posts from while I was away
     
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  14. albefree69 Well-Known Member

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    Well you didn't actually ask a question but I'll give you a brief synopsis of our thoughts.

    WRs:

    Most posters weren't surprised by the rams keeping only 5 WRs because that possibility was kind of leaked by the Rams FO before the last preseason game. After reading a post from Jimitroutboy it was pretty clear that while Helmick flashed early, he was unable to maintain that performance throughout TC and the Preseason so his departure came as no surprise to Jim and to the rest of us in retrospect.

    A few thought that Johnson had done enough to make the final 53 but that was a minority view. So again, no surprise there.

    Everybody important (me) thought that Veltung had the best chance to make the team due to his return abilities (which were very good IMO) but he failed to cash in on this by his failure to shine as a WR. So no surprise there (just some tears on my part) when he was also cut.

    Hopefully one or two of them will make the PS which we'll be working on shortly.

    LBs:

    Pretty much everyone (except a few no-it-alls :lol: ) was surprised by Hull not making the cut. Ray Ray and Bates (both of whom made the final 53) must have outplayed him by quite a bit because he's not eligible for the PS.
     
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  15. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    The guy that made Hull expendable was Jonathon Stewart. Both Bates and Armstrong are OLB, Stewart will now assume the backup MLB role. At least until Dunbar comes back, at which point one of the UDFA's are likely to go.

    And while some will say Witherspoon CAN slide inside, I don't see that happening. He is too valuable at this point as the only OLB with ANY experience. And he is limited at this point as a MLB.

    Also, I think too much is being made of the WR situation. There would be virtually ZERO chance of SIX guys being active on gameday. I'm would be shocked if one, and more likely TWO guys don't get added to the PS. In the event of a long term injury at WR, a PS guy could be activated.
     
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  16. LumberTubs Member

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    Thanks albe. Forgive my ignorance but what makes someone ineligible for the PS. Is it down to age and/or number of years served in the league?
     
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  17. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    A player is ineligible if he has an accrued season of NFL experience. Players gain an accrued season by being on the active roster for at least six games.

    If a player has one accrued season, they can still be practice squad eligible if they were on the 45-man active gameday roster for less than nine regular season games.

    A player is deemed to have served a season on the practice squad if he remains on the practice squad for at least three weeks. Players are eligible to be on the practice squad for two seasons. Players can be eligible for a third practice squad season if their team maintains no less than 53 players on the active/inactive list at all times.
     
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  18. albefree69 Well-Known Member

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    Good catch CoachO. I knew I forgot someone.

    As for PS eligibility:
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/31/4677982/nfl-practice-squad-salary-rules-eligibility" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/8/31/4 ... ligibility</a>
     
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  19. LumberTubs Member

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    Cheers for that X/albe
     
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  20. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    The most interesting names to me are Wayne Hunter and Barry Richardson. I think Richardson was cut in Tennessee. Hunter is unsigned as far as I know. They both played better than expected last year. Richardson actually had a very good year. Stricly as depth insurance for T either guy would be better than the names I see listed in the cut lists in my opinion.
     
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