No need for alarm on Goffs performance,still no reason to think defense has turned the corner either

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I have seen some posts of posters here and other places where they are bent out of shape on Goffs performance.There is no need to worry and here is why. It was the layoff,the offense was rusty because of that. One of the announcers even mentioned it that was why he thought Goff was off target and did not have his usual pinpoint accuracy was because of the layoff.

This is how we know it was the layoff that affected him in the offense.Did anybody watch the Chiefs/Raiders game as well? I did since it will be the last game in oakland between these two teams.Next year they are headed for santa clara. Well Mahomes ALSO struggled.He was off target in the first half as well.Their offensive line performed badly as well. I dont think that is just a coincidence.

Both offensive teams struggled against really bad teams and the irony is they were both only ahead by a field goal as late as the middle of the 4th quarter. I also wont be surprised if our offense struggles against the Bears the fact they are playing in the cold.As denver exposed,our offense doesnt play as well in the cold. If they dont,not to worry.a couple weeks ago this game would have concerned me but after the Bears lost to the lowly pathetic Giants,while it might be a close game,you just know the Bears will screw this one up somehow as well. If you cant beat the Giants,thats pretty bad.:D:rolllaugh:

Now that being said,before anybody wants to think our defensive problems have been fixed because of the return of Talib and because we finally did not give up a touchdown on almost every possession as seemed to be the case the last month,before thinking that consider WHO the opponent was.The Lowly Lions are hardly a measuring stick to see if your defense has improved.:rolllaugh: The rest of their games are all against offenses that dont scare anybody either so really we will never know how improved they REALLY are until the playoffs start.:D

Had this been against just one of the teams we played this past month,THEN we would know how much our defense has improved since they were all quality opponents.That wont be the case the rest of the year though. again,we wont know nothing on if our defense has been fixed with Talib playing or not till the playoffs start.:D
 

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While I agree with you about Goff, it is a concern. We saw his accuracy dip after a week off before playing Atlanta in the playoffs last season. This year, if the Rams get home field advantage, there will be another bye. Then there is a layoff before the Superbowl. I hope he figures out how to avoid this type of game, after a bye, in the near future.


I agree about the defense too. I need to see it happen for several games. And the Eagles suddenly became a concern for me because of this game. You'll had a big day. The Tight End is the one position the Rams didn't have an answer for all year.
 

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I have no issues with Goff, as every player in every position has "off days". The great Drew Brees just had one recently against the Cowboys. It happens. Let's see how Goff handles the Bears this Sunday.

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Goff needs some rhythm to get going sometimes. Thats ok, every QB ever has off games.
For Goff like everybody, it seems that rhythm can be thrown off by a break.

For those games coming after a break, I would start with high percentage, easy completions and lean on the run game and play action. Ease Jared in to those games, let him get going as some rhythm starts rolling, then let him rip...
 
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I personally think he was ill. Mcvay being sick today only confirmed it more to me as those two spend a lot of time together.
 

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I don’t think there is a “pattern” of Goff struggling after time off.

Crushed it in opener vs. Indy last year. Destroyed Giants after the bye. Played well in opener vs. Raiduhs.

Struggled some vs. Atlanta, and just now vs Detroit? Yeah. But again, not enough evidence to claim a pattern.

Just sayin’... no need to fear the off week after we get the #1 seed.
 

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I personally think he was ill. Mcvay being sick today only confirmed it more to me as those two spend a lot of time together.
This. He definitely had some type of bug. His sideline demeanor was completely different. Even Gurley mentioned how he just wanted to get the hell out of there.
 

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I don’t think there is a “pattern” of Goff struggling after time off.

Crushed it in opener vs. Indy last year. Destroyed Giants after the bye. Played well in opener vs. Raiduhs.

Struggled some vs. Atlanta, and just now vs Detroit? Yeah. But again, not enough evidence to claim a pattern.

Just sayin’... no need to fear the off week after we get the #1 seed.

Yeah, not a pattern, just that ALL QBs do better with rhythm and are more likely to be off after a break.
 

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If Goff plays they way he did against Minn, NO and KC, they'll get the win in Chi-town.
 

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No concern at all regarding Goff.
Every QB struggles and it usually has as much to do with other teams D as the QB himself.
Hell, Brees often struggles on the road. Less this year but over the arc of his career he is much less affective out of the dome.
The other teams can have good weeks too.
The D was helped by a struggling Detroit O and a Rams teams that controlled time of possession the first half.
I would expect the D to look good the last two weeks vs SF and Arizona as well. If they do it won't mean the D is primed for a play off run.
Mitch T can give teams fits. Cohen is the kind of back that gives the Rams serious big play trouble.
Being able to run the ball and time of possession will be key to a win this week as well I think.
I would expect fewer deep shots early vs Chicago and more of an intermediate passing game.
 

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I have no issues with Goff, as every player in every position has "off days". The great Drew Brees just had one recently against the Cowboys. It happens. Let's see how Goff handles the Bears this Sunday.

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those would normally be my same thoughts as well that every QB always has an off day like drew brees did but as someone else just said,a concern is that happened with him last year as well with a bye before the playoffs.I hope by the time the playoffs start he will have come up with a solution not to have off days after a bye.Lets cross our fingers.that would be bad news as he said if he still did not by the time the superbowl came around.
 

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I don’t think there is a “pattern” of Goff struggling after time off.

Crushed it in opener vs. Indy last year. Destroyed Giants after the bye. Played well in opener vs. Raiduhs.

Struggled some vs. Atlanta, and just now vs Detroit? Yeah. But again, not enough evidence to claim a pattern.

Just sayin’... no need to fear the off week after we get the #1 seed.

I did not think of that.Yeah as others said it was probably more the bug than anything else.the DEFENSE is the real concern to worry about. Holding a bunch of clowns like the Lions to a low scoring game,hardly proves that just because Talib is back the offense is playing well again. as i said earlier and someone else said when he mentioned he is not sold either on the defense,we wont know if their play is better now with Talib back until the playoffs when they finally will face a team that is not a pushover.
 

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I personally think he was ill. Mcvay being sick today only confirmed it more to me as those two spend a lot of time together.

I agree. There’s a cold/sinus bug going around out here and I’ll bet several on the team have it.

People at work have had it and it lasts a couple weeks. Our little one brought it home from Daycare...he’s 1...and it took all of us 3 weeks to shake it. Probably a week to ten days for world class athletes to recover.
 

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While it is true every good QB has bad days Goff was more than a little off against the Lions. Movement in the pocket, accuracy, decision making on the interception and several other potential pickoffs as well as general energy level were all noticeably off. I watched the game in a bar so didn’t pay real close attention to all plays. The only other time he looked this off was against Denver. If he was sick that is an anomaly. If it was something else it would be nice to get some feedback. Can anyone weigh in on any similarities noticed between those 2 outings?
 

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I'm actually surprised this is a thread. Again, I don't understand why Goff is the only quarterback in the NFL that can't have an off day. Brees has an off day its okay, Goff has an off day and sound the alarms. This is a non issue, he's fine. Expect me to resurrect this post after the Bears game which boasts the 4th best defense in the NFL. We should worry more about the defense. It looked solid, but the Lions offense is inept. The Bears are a better test.
 

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Good defense can always slow a QB or even make him look downright bad. No QB is great with a consistent and quick rush in his face for example, or with wideouts that are smothered by great coverage. Detroit did some good things the other day and deserve credit too. Fans always overlook that another team can actually make plays.

That said what I didn't like was the fumbles, the lack of awareness of the play clock, the poor decisions, etc., in way too many instances. He tried to throw two consecutive pick sixes on that one possession ffs.

Jared had a bad game on top of Detroit playing very well and challenging him. So chalk it up as another growth game for him and BTW it's good for him to see that New England style of defense so well represented just in case he ends up in the Super Bowl because good chance he'll see it again in that game.
 

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I'm actually surprised this is a thread. Again, I don't understand why Goff is the only quarterback in the NFL that can't have an off day. Brees has an off day its okay, Goff has an off day and sound the alarms. This is a non issue, he's fine. Expect me to resurrect this post after the Bears game which boasts the 4th best defense in the NFL. We should worry more about the defense. It looked solid, but the Lions offense is inept. The Bears are a better test.

I said in my OP NOT to worry about Goff and that Mahomes had an off day as well so that would not include me in that group at least who is only saying Goff had an off day.LOL

a week ago i would have been worried about this game but I am a lot less worried about the Bears defense now after seeing them get carved up on defense by the lowly pathetic Giants with a washed up eli manning. did not look like a 4th ranked defense to me.:rolllaugh:it sure took a hit sunday.:rolllaugh:

You said what I said in the OP,the DEFENSE is what we need to be worried about,that we STILL dont know if the play of the defense has improved yet with Talib back because the Lions offense is not anything to get scared about,nor are the rest of the teams the Rams play the rest of the year. as i said,we wont know if the defense has gotten any better with the return of Talib back until the playoffs start because the the rest of the teams they play the rest of the year on their schedule are all pushovers on offense.
 
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While it is true every good QB has bad days Goff was more than a little off against the Lions. Movement in the pocket, accuracy, decision making on the interception and several other potential pickoffs as well as general energy level were all noticeably off. I watched the game in a bar so didn’t pay real close attention to all plays. The only other time he looked this off was against Denver. If he was sick that is an anomaly. If it was something else it would be nice to get some feedback. Can anyone weigh in on any similarities noticed between those 2 outings?

Yeah again i think that you can chalk all that up to the Bug. The Bears will be their only opponent the rest of the year they face to be concerned about. I dont see him having those same issues TWO weeks in a row,he is too good a QB.Goffs throws may be off target again this week but that is something nobody here should be worried or concerned about because as you just brought up,he was off in the Denver game where it was exposed he does not play as well in the cold weather so expect the offense to struggle again.

The GOOD news is the fearsome Bears defense which was suppose to be so good,got lit up and torched against the lowly and pathetic Giants against a washed up has been quarterback no less so that just may be the thing that cures Goffs ills he had against the Lions.:rolllaugh:

The Bears on the other hand might have had an off day on defense because they were looking ahead to this game thinking about it so that actually is a concern to have now that i think about that.
 

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Im wondering if Goff got a big head from the Chiefs game and all the media afterwards and that's why he played poorly. He sort of played with an ego instead of focusing and just executing. If that's true I just hope he realizes that. Im sure he probably does or he has been told by McVay, his Dad.....

I dont know its just an alternate theory to the bye week theory. If its true its probably good that it happened, you can learn a lot from a game like that. Stay humble.