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More Boston BS....

Discussion in 'GENERAL SPORTS TALK' started by bnw, Aug 17, 2017.

  1. bnw

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    No it wasn't a "mistake". The ump called it for himself. I believe it did have an effect upon the game.
     
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    Your display of jealousy is delicious!
     
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    So, so true.
    Bitter Dodger fan.
     
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  4. bnw

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    Thats understandable.
     
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    I have no problem with Boston, BUT FUUUUUCK NEW ENGLAND! Those pos scalywags all have mass delusions that the Pats are 'legit'. Yeah and I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

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    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...s-electronically-new-york-yankees-other-teams

    ommissioner Rob Manfred confirmed Tuesday that the Boston Red Sox used electronic communication from the dugout to steal opponents' signs and relay them to Boston players during games.

    Baseball's investigation of the Red Sox is ongoing, Manfred said from Fenway Park ahead of Boston's game against Toronto, but he expects it will be completed before the end of the regular season.

    News of the investigation was first reported by the New York Times.

    Major League Baseball does not have a policy against sign stealing, per se, Manfred said. The issue is the use of a electronic device in the dugout, which is against league rules.

    "We actually do not have a rule against sign-stealing," Manfred said. "It has been a part of the game for a very, very long time. To the extent that there was a violation of the rule here, it was a violation by one or the other [team] that involved the use of electronic equipment. It's the electronic equipment that creates the violation. I think the rule against electronic equipment has a number of policy reasons behind it, but one of them is we don't want to escalate attempts to figure out what a pitcher is going to throw by introducing electronics into that mix.

    "To the extent there was a violation on either side, we are 100 percent comfortable that it's not an ongoing issue, that if it happened, it is no longer. I think that's important from an integrity perspective going forward."

    After MLB corroborated the claims with its own video, the commissioner's office confronted the Red Sox, who admitted that video replay personnel were getting signs and that those were relayed to some players, The Times reported. The scheme had been ongoing for some weeks.

    The Red Sox's scheme came to MLB's attention when New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman filed a complaint with Manfred's office last month. He supplied video of what the team contended was a Red Sox trainer looking at his Apple Watch, the Times reported, and then relaying information to players -- in one instance outfielder Brock Holt and in another infielder Dustin Pedroia -- during a series between the teams in Boston.

    Asked whether a potential punishment for the Red Sox could be used to deter future incidents, Manfred acknowledged it was a factor that would be weighed.

    "When I think about punishment, I think you need to think about deterrents," he said. "I think you need to think about how the violation has affected the play on the field, and I think you need to think about how it's affected the perception of the game publicly. All of those things are something that you have to weigh in terms of trying to get to appropriate discipline."

    Red Sox manager John Farrell, whose team is hosting Toronto, said that Boston is "aware of the rule [that] electronic devices are not to be used in the dugout." When asked to comment further, he said it's "a league matter."

    Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner, who is in Baltimore for a game against the Orioles, said of the sign stealing, "It was something we expected was going on."

    During Yankees-Red Sox games this year, Yankees catchers increasingly and repeatedly visited the mound to go through the signs or change in sequences verbally -- and this was related partly because of the Yankees' concerns about how the Red Sox were relaying information, sources told ESPN's Buster Olney.

    Sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN's Andrew Marchand that the Yankees have suspected the Red Sox were using illegal methods to steal signs for a while, but they could not prove it until the last series in Boston. The Yankees thought something was not right because the Red Sox repeatedly hit pitches hard that the Yankees felt would normally be unhittable -- especially with runners in scoring position.

    A source also questioned how Farrell and Red Sox general manager Dave Dombrowski did not know about the scheme, considering the Yankees were able to figure it out, and so many players were involved.

    The Red Sox have since filed their own complaint, alleging that the Yankees use a camera from their YES Network exclusively for stealing signs.

    Sources denied the substance of the Red Sox's counterclaim, with one saying it was a public relations move to try to muddy the waters.

    "There is no meat on the bone," the source said.
     
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    Typical Boston BS.
     
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    Better win the World Series so I can sign my bandwagon application.
     
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    I believe they will be a first round playoff exit.
     
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    Only if they face the Cardinals.
     
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    Oh really! How about now?:rolllaugh:
     
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    2 different events...figured your thread title worked perfectly
     
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    True about different events and yes the thread title works well. Perhaps this thread was started around the time the cheating was done against the Yankees?
     
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    Its not like stealing signs will get anyone sent to prison......like I dont know, a former Cardinal employee maybe.
     
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    Stealing signs within the rules is a very legit part of the game. Using any technology to aid in the stealing has always been against the rules. In other words more cheating from Boston. Probably only the tip of the cheating iceberg of the Cheat Sox.

    As for that former Cardinals employee the difference is he acted alone and not with the permission or acquiescence of team management.
     
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    Yankees won 11 of 19 games vs the Sox and still trail them by 3.5 games. If the Sox were cheating, they sure arent doing it right
     
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    So you think the Cheat Sox were only doing that against the Yankees? Puhleeeeeez. Without cheating perhaps the Cheat Sox would be in 3rd or 4th place. Bottom line: They cheat because it helps them.
     
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    Please. Stealing signs is as old as baseball itself.
     
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    Of course it is.....read my earlier post. However using any technology to steal/relay the signs is definitely illegal.
     
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    Like the old adage goes,
    If you can't beat em...
    Accuse them of cheating.
    Oh wait, that's the new age thinking. Lol