Jadeveon Clowney looking for ‘market-setting money’
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Who's this Brandon Floyd you speak of and why you covering your face? For the record I'd take Leonard Floyd at the price over Clowney for what we need.Brandon Floyd 10 million dollars or Clowney 13.5?
I think we got a good deal to get one of our D Coordinators ex players.alm:
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Ohhhh you mean Larry Floyd? They guy we picked up for 10 million! Yeah that guy is worth every dime!
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Reference on Jadaveon Clowney signing.....just read that "Teams are not allowed to sign veteran free agents right now".
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The NFL Player Association had a conference call with player agents on Monday and revealed some major insights into the current and upcoming situation regarding the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 season. Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline outlined some of the most important points, which I’ll relay here:
Teams are not allowed to sign veteran free agents right now
Pauline says that the reason you haven’t heard any breaking news on Jadeveon Clowney or some of these other big free agents is that teams are barred from bringing them in for physicals or to sign contracts. The NFL is one of the last leagues around to not allow e-signatures, requiring all contracts to be signed in person. That could change.
The salary cap could be going down, not up or away
The NFLPA fears as much as a $3 billion revenue loss for the NFL next season if fans aren’t able to attend the games and that could mean a lower salary cap for 2021. The 2020 salary cap is $198,200,000 and the LA Rams are one team with the least amount of space. Things get a bit better in 2021 but now that $42.8 million cap room estimation by OvertheCap (based on a $215 million cap) could shrink considerably.
The NFLPA is also looking into how to protect players who may have pre-existing conditions that make it unsafe for them to participate. One such player is Patrick Peterson of the Arizona Cardinals, who is a diabetic. They are looking to test players and coaches every three days and there has been work on the development of a face shield for players to wear during games.
There is also talk of increasing camp rosters to 95 and that all June mini-camps were cancelled, as expected. But mostly there are more questions than answers other than the fact that teams can’t sign free agents right now and the 2021 salary cap has probably already been impacted for the worse.
NFLPA: Teams prohibited from signing free agents, salary cap could go down in 2021
The NFLPA conference call noted several important rules, changes that could be coming
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The NFL Player Association had a conference call with player agents on Monday and revealed some major insights into the current and upcoming situation regarding the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 season. Pro Football Network’s Tony Pauline outlined some of the most important points, which I’ll relay here:
Teams are not allowed to sign veteran free agents right now
Pauline says that the reason you haven’t heard any breaking news on Jadeveon Clowney or some of these other big free agents is that teams are barred from bringing them in for physicals or to sign contracts. The NFL is one of the last leagues around to not allow e-signatures, requiring all contracts to be signed in person. That could change.
- Player physicals remain a major issue. Some teams disallow players getting physicals at the office of a team doctor and mandate the team doctor must perform said physical on players at the team facility. This is not a broad-brush rule, rather a team by team mandate.
- On a related note, there is serious concern about existing free agents and their inability to work out for teams, participate in mini-camps, and take physicals. The bottom line is there is no fix for veterans still on the market. In fact, teams are currently prohibited from bringing in free agent players to examine them or sign them to a contract.
- And when players are finally able to sign contracts? The NFLPA is looking hard at digitally signing them to minimize face-to-face contact.
The salary cap could be going down, not up or away
The NFLPA fears as much as a $3 billion revenue loss for the NFL next season if fans aren’t able to attend the games and that could mean a lower salary cap for 2021. The 2020 salary cap is $198,200,000 and the LA Rams are one team with the least amount of space. Things get a bit better in 2021 but now that $42.8 million cap room estimation by OvertheCap (based on a $215 million cap) could shrink considerably.
The NFLPA is also looking into how to protect players who may have pre-existing conditions that make it unsafe for them to participate. One such player is Patrick Peterson of the Arizona Cardinals, who is a diabetic. They are looking to test players and coaches every three days and there has been work on the development of a face shield for players to wear during games.
There is also talk of increasing camp rosters to 95 and that all June mini-camps were cancelled, as expected. But mostly there are more questions than answers other than the fact that teams can’t sign free agents right now and the 2021 salary cap has probably already been impacted for the worse.
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That was my thinking since the start of free agency.
Clowney going to get stuck on 1yr deal, probably.
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Look, you guys are crazy. Clowney should not only be the highest paid defensive player in the league, but the highest paid PLAYER in the league. He's that valuable. Or at least tied with Kittle for his contract, as Kittle and Clowney both are more valuable than the best HOF QB you can think of. These teams should each commit at least 50% of their salary cap to these players, they are that good. Plus, they are some of the most upstanding humans to ever walk the earth. They are better people than you or I. I cannot fathom why the 'Hawks and 9ers are waiting on signing Clowney and Kittle, respectively. Back up the Brinks trucks, you guys!
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Maybe he should fire his other advisors. This guy should be on a roster.
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Jadeveon Clowney parts ways with Bus Cook, again
Last year, as Labor Day weekend approached, defensive end Jadeveon Clowney fired agent Bus Cook.
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I once talked to a former offensive lineman, I asked whom the most overrated player he played against. He named Clowney, not because of talent, because he would just take plays off alot and was "lazy". Never was afraid of him on the hawks after that.
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Looks like the Saints tried to pull some shady ass shit to get him.....
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An inside look at wild backstory behind Saints' last-ditch effort to sign Jadeveon Clowney
Published: Sep 06, 2020 at 03:14 PM
by Tom Pelissero & Ian Rapoport
Making a final push late Saturday to land star pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney, the Saints got creative, attempting to pull off a move believed to be the first of its kind in NFL history – but couldn't get final clearance from the league.
The Saints were working with another team towards a unique sign-and-trade deal that would've maneuvered around salary cap constraints to bring the free-agent Clowney to New Orleans. But talks fell apart over the NFL's willingness to approve such a deal, and Clowney wound up agreeing to terms with the Tennessee Titans on a one-year deal late Saturday night.
According to sources informed of the talks, the Saints didn't feel they could compete financially with the Titans' offer – $12 million, plus $3 million in incentives – given budgetary reasons. So, they approached another team to find a workaround. (Sources didn't confirm the other team, which hereafter is referred to as "Team X", but it is believed to be the Cleveland Browns, who have ample cap space and a front office known for having a propensity for creativity, most memorably on display in their 2016 trade for quarterback Brock Osweiler.)
The sides discussed parameters of a deal in which Team X would've signed Clowney to a one-year, $15 million contract and paid him a $5 million signing bonus. Then, Team X would've immediately traded Clowney to the Saints, who would've sent Team X a second-round draft pick, as well as a player to take additional salary off New Orleans' books. The Saints would've paid Clowney's remaining $10 million salary.
Just one problem: The teams got word late Saturday the NFL was unlikely to approve such a deal.
Other teams have, in essence, paid cash for picks in the past, including the Browns, who agreed to take on Osweiler's $16 million guaranteed salary in a deal that netted them a second-round draft pick. Last year, the Dolphins paid Ryan Tannehill a $5 million signing bonus on a restructured contract to send him to the Titans. And Clowney himself received a $7 million signing bonus last August from the Texans to help complete a trade to Seattle.
But several executives from different NFL teams said they couldn't recall any other team executing such a deal involving a free agent who was literally only signed to trade him. One exec summed up the interpretation of the league's bylaws as: "Fundamentally, you can't trade cash."
The Saints have long been willing to convert large base salaries to signing bonuses or add voidable years to contracts to free up short-term cap space. But there is great uncertainty about the 2021 salary cap, given a projected multibillion-dollar revenue shortfall related to COVID-19 that could cause it to drop from $198.2 million per club in 2020 to as little as $175 million. Entering this weekend's cuts, the Saints had over $260 million in cap commitments for 2021, according to NFL Players Association records.
The Saints continued to try to rework their offer late into Saturday night, but without help, they couldn't match the Titans' offer. And after 5½ months on the free-agent market, Clowney decided to head to Tennessee instead.
An inside look at wild backstory behind Saints' last-ditch effort to sign Jadeveon Clowney
Making a final push late Saturday to land star pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney, the Saints got creative, attempting to pull off a move believed to be the first of its kind in NFL history – but couldn’t get final clearance from the league.
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An inside look at wild backstory behind Saints' last-ditch effort to sign Jadeveon Clowney
Published: Sep 06, 2020 at 03:14 PM
by Tom Pelissero & Ian Rapoport
Making a final push late Saturday to land star pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney, the Saints got creative, attempting to pull off a move believed to be the first of its kind in NFL history – but couldn't get final clearance from the league.
The Saints were working with another team towards a unique sign-and-trade deal that would've maneuvered around salary cap constraints to bring the free-agent Clowney to New Orleans. But talks fell apart over the NFL's willingness to approve such a deal, and Clowney wound up agreeing to terms with the Tennessee Titans on a one-year deal late Saturday night.
According to sources informed of the talks, the Saints didn't feel they could compete financially with the Titans' offer – $12 million, plus $3 million in incentives – given budgetary reasons. So, they approached another team to find a workaround. (Sources didn't confirm the other team, which hereafter is referred to as "Team X", but it is believed to be the Cleveland Browns, who have ample cap space and a front office known for having a propensity for creativity, most memorably on display in their 2016 trade for quarterback Brock Osweiler.)
The sides discussed parameters of a deal in which Team X would've signed Clowney to a one-year, $15 million contract and paid him a $5 million signing bonus. Then, Team X would've immediately traded Clowney to the Saints, who would've sent Team X a second-round draft pick, as well as a player to take additional salary off New Orleans' books. The Saints would've paid Clowney's remaining $10 million salary.
Just one problem: The teams got word late Saturday the NFL was unlikely to approve such a deal.
Other teams have, in essence, paid cash for picks in the past, including the Browns, who agreed to take on Osweiler's $16 million guaranteed salary in a deal that netted them a second-round draft pick. Last year, the Dolphins paid Ryan Tannehill a $5 million signing bonus on a restructured contract to send him to the Titans. And Clowney himself received a $7 million signing bonus last August from the Texans to help complete a trade to Seattle.
But several executives from different NFL teams said they couldn't recall any other team executing such a deal involving a free agent who was literally only signed to trade him. One exec summed up the interpretation of the league's bylaws as: "Fundamentally, you can't trade cash."
The Saints have long been willing to convert large base salaries to signing bonuses or add voidable years to contracts to free up short-term cap space. But there is great uncertainty about the 2021 salary cap, given a projected multibillion-dollar revenue shortfall related to COVID-19 that could cause it to drop from $198.2 million per club in 2020 to as little as $175 million. Entering this weekend's cuts, the Saints had over $260 million in cap commitments for 2021, according to NFL Players Association records.
The Saints continued to try to rework their offer late into Saturday night, but without help, they couldn't match the Titans' offer. And after 5½ months on the free-agent market, Clowney decided to head to Tennessee instead.