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Irsay arrested for drunk driving

Discussion in 'OFF TOPIC' started by Faceplant, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I wonder how he can suspend him and expect it to matter? He still makes money whether he attends games or practices or meetings, so that's no real deterent. I don't think he can be fined for his behavior can he?

    I would expect that he would have to make a sizable donation to a charity, go to rehab, then do some community service. What he needs is to be humbled by the addiction. From what I have seen over the years it's a very effective treatment. Taking a few bucks away from a billionaire doesn't do anything, putting him in a soup kitchen or having him talk to kids in a school will make the point though.
     
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    Looks like he's wearing some sort of bizarre 'Affliction' button up shirt in that picture. I think that's all the humiliation a rich 55 year old man needs right there.
     
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    I burned through two marriages by the time I was 26 and was diagnosed with terminal cirrhosis of the liver at age 28. Being alone, broke, and dying caused me to walk into an AA meeting and ask for help. Have never had a problem with booze or any other addiction since that day. If I would have had Irsay's money I would have been dead long ago.

    You're exactly right that he needs to bottom out and be humbled. After receiving treatment and spending some time clean and sober, Irsay needs to help others who are still struggling. That's how you pay back and keep what you've got. I fear that his money, fame, and connections will keep that from happening.
     
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  4. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I'm trendy, but age appropriate and don't wear douchy clothes like that. It looks terrible and is designed for Guido in NJ lol.
     
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  5. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    That's good that you got past that. A very, very close friend of mine ended up dead because he wasn't smart enough to beat cocaine and booze.

    I think there is one common theme among happy recovered addicts. Their addiction of choice had to first beat them in order for them to beat it. So you may be right that Irsays money and fame will slow the process. If it does, well freak him then he is too stupid to get it. This should be a HUGE wake up call. When you have four felonies pending it's time to make a few changes eh.
     
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  6. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Guy is 54 and looks 70,it's hard to look at those pics. and not feel sorry for the person ,however IF I were Goodel I'd suspend him for 4 games without pay ,meaning I'd fine his club one fourth of it's yearly revenue and stipulate it be given to rehab centers for people who could not afford the Betty Ford or any other high profile treatment centers .
    Then he would have to complete the same substance abuse requirements any player had to including periodic random drug testing.
    The precedent has been set,players lose game checks and those checks represent FAR greater percentages of a players net worth,it's a chunk of money ,but short of that IMO it has no impact .
    That or they need to quit cracking down on the players.
     
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  7. Prime Time RODerator

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    My dad died at 43 after having ravaged his body with booze for many years. You would think I would have gotten the point after seeing that up close but no. Addicts aren't moved by logic and reason but only by their compulsions. Anyone who gets in the way of feeding that addiction has to go whether it's wives, family, or even an NFL team.

    You will see Irsay go into rehab and come out with a big smile on his face while saying all the right things to the media. but if he fails to understand and practice total abstinence from his particular demons this will not end well. The examples of this are legion - Amy Winehouse, Jerry Garcia, Chris Farley, John Belushi, etc. etc. and on and on.
     
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  8. Prime Time RODerator

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    And here we go...

    Colts announce Irsay has entered a facility “for treatment and care”
    Posted by Mike Florio on March 18, 2014

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    Colts owner Jim Irsay needed help. He recognized it, admitted it, and now he’s seeking it.

    “Yesterday, Jim Irsay took the first step toward regaining good health,” the Colts said in a statement released Tuesday afternoon. “He voluntarily checked into a highly-respected health care facility and is committed to undergoing the treatment and care necessary to help him meet his challenges head-on. Jim, the Irsay family, and the Colts organization are all deeply appreciative of the incredible outpouring of support and compassion from our fans and the Indiana community.”

    It’s admirable that Irsay acknowledged the need for treatment and sought it. We wish him the best as he tries to overcome these challenges.

    While it likely won’t resolve the situation from a legal standpoint or the league’s perspective, it’s critical that Irsay do what he needs to do to be healthy going forward. Hopefully, his example will be help others dealing with similar issues seek the treatment they need.
     
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  9. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    The difference between players and coaches and owners is that the players have a CBA stating they can't do those things and if they do the punishment is spelled out in the CBA. Owners don't have a contract with the NFL and therefore do not have the same punishment mandated. In other words Goodell can only do so much, and in reality anything he does will have to be agreed to by Irsay. Goodell is literally powerless here. If Irsay was a coach he could do something, but he is a franchise owner and therefore there are no NFL rules broken. Goodell can hope that Irsay agrees to some kind of punishment, but IMO that's all he has is hope.
     
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  10. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Yeah apparently there is another difference, NFL "Total Access" led off with a story about Cam Newtons ankle,I watched for about 3/4 of the show NEVER mentioned Irsay
     
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  11. Prime Time RODerator

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    Irsay’s situation gets more complicated
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2014

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    For Colts owner Jim Irsay, an arrest last month on charges of operating a vehicle while intoxicated and felony possession of a controlled substance (four counts) may have been the tipping point in a series of problems that, at a minimum, justifies careful examination by the league office.

    According to Tim Evans and Mark Alesia of theIndianapolis Star, the arrest came less than three weeks after a woman was found dead of an apparent drug overdose in a townhouse Irsay previously had given to her.

    Police and the coroner are reportedly waiting for toxicology results before determining the cause of Kimberly Wundrum’s death. Per the Star, a police report determines that a plate with “white powder, straw, razor” were found in the townhouse, along with photographs of Irsay.

    The Star report also raises the question of whether Irsay purchased the townhouse given to Wundrum with money flowing from Irsay’s ownership of the Colts. Because he’s the sole owner of the team, the decision to divert funds for personal use won’t be a problem — unless, of course, charges incurred for personal endeavors were reflected as business expenses.

    Irsay reportedly had $29,000 in his possession when arrested, with the cash in a briefcase, his wallet, and laundry bags. That dynamic has not yet been explained by Irsay or the Colts, and it hasn’t received the scrutiny from the media that perhaps it should.

    Still, there seems to be little disagreement on the proposition that Irsay must face the same consequences that a player would face under similar circumstances. When it comes to disciplining an owner, however, the financial penalty that best mirrors the standard punishment of two game checks for a first-offense DUI by a player could be a major fine that would take away two weeks of the money Irsay earns during the season based on his 100-percent ownership of the franchise.
     
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  12. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    NEVER thought there wasn't WAY MORE to the story,one of the reasons I'm not big on adulation,"heroes" get crap swept under the rug for them ALL THE TIME and in the extreme cases it produces O.J Simpson and Jerry Sandusky type characters
     
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    Jim Irsay’s daughter: He’s ready to come back
    Posted by Michael David Smith on May 19, 2014

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    Colts owner Jim Irsay took some time off for medical treatment after he was arrested and accused of operating a vehicle while intoxicated and felony possession of a controlled substance, but now he wants to get back to his team.

    Irsay’s daughter, Carlie Irsay-Gordon, told Sal Paolantonio of ESPN that Irsay is involved in the bid for Indianapolis to host the 2018 Super Bowl, and that he’s ready to return to work.

    “He’s really looking forward to it,” Irsay-Gordon said. “He’s ready to come back and get plugged back in. He’s feeling great. We’re really excited to have him back.”

    But while Irsay may be ready to get back to the Colts, outlets ranging from The Big Lead to ESPN’s Pardon the Interruption raised questions after the NFL draft about why Irsay was allowed to get back to work. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has said Irsay is subject to discipline, but we still have no idea what form that discipline might take, and the league is apparently content to wait until Irsay’s legal issues are resolved before imposing its own discipline.

    So for now, Irsay is back. At some later date, he may be suspended.
     
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    Jim Irsay’s driver’s license suspended for one year
    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 5, 2014

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    When Colts owner Jim Irsay was pulled over on March 16, police thought he was under the influence, and Irsay refused a blood test. As a result, Irsay’s driver’s license has been suspended.

    The Indianapolis Star reports that Irsay’s license was suspended last week for one year, through May 27, 2015.

    Under Indiana law, a one-year license suspension is mandated for anyone who refuses to submit to a drug test. Obviously, Irsay can afford to have a full-time chauffeur, so a one-year license suspension won’t affect him the way it would affect most people, but he’s getting the same punishment that drivers typically get for refusing to take a blood test.

    Irsay is facing two misdemeanor counts of impaired driving. His next court date is June 19.

    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has confirmed that Irsay is subject to league discipline, but there’s no word yet on what that discipline will entail, or when it will be handed down.
     
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    Jim Irsay speaks, but doesn’t apologize for arrest
    Posted by Darin Gantt on June 10, 2014

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    Colts owner Jim Irsay didn’t shed much light on the specifics of his current status with the league in his first interview since his arrest this spring, but he say he’s undergoing random drug tests, and the results of those tests are being shared with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

    Irsay talked to Indianapolis Star columnist Bob Kravitz, and though he wouldn’t say specifically why he failed a field sobriety tests or whether he thought he should be held to a higher standard than players, he did describe his ongoing battle with addiction which stems from the pain of back and hip problems.

    It’s all been a blessing, just being able to focus on my health and redouble the efforts on recovery,” Irsay said. “It’s been a long path. I still have chronic pain. But it was the good thing. . . . In some ways, [going through rehab] is my greatest moment. It takes courage to try and overcome the difficulties you have. For some reason, it’s seen as unheroic. When someone beats cancer, it’s like, `Wow, that’s so heroic,’ but when someone has this illness, it’s treated like you’re a leper because that person is morally corrupt, and that’s not the case.

    “. . . It’s an ongoing thing in one’s life when recovering from any disease. The disease never sleeps so you have to be proactive when dealing with it. But the journey is great because it forced you to grow spiritually. There’s a lot of gratitude and spiritual growth. And it’s rewarding because it makes you more virtuous when you have success.”

    Irsay said he’s been alcohol-free for more than a decade, and was still taking pain medication, though it was closely monitored by his doctors and would eventually be decreased. He described his pain medication as “the least invasive from an addiction standpoint and the most helpful from an orthopedic standpoint.”

    And though he didn’t discuss much regarding the pending charges for operating a vehicle under the influence, he disputed some of the facts in the case. He said it wasn’t unusual for him to be traveling with $29,000 in cash, as he was the night he was stopped for erratic driving.

    He also hedged when asked if he felt the need to apologize to anyone.

    “I don’t think that’s something I’ll address right now,” Irsay said. “There are certain things I want to say that I can’t say. We need to let the process go forward and I’ll address that later. I’m a human being; if there’s something I have to apologize for, I would, but at this point, it wouldn’t be appropriate. It sets me up, like if you don’t say you’re sorry, then why aren’t you saying your sorry, and if you say you’re sorry, then you must have done something wrong.”

    Admitting some culpability might have been a nice first step, especially at a time when the league is deciding how best to punish one of their own business partners, while the labor force is watching them closely.
     
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